[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 155729] Set paragraph style drop down is able to create new styles, which is unconventional (and not fitting the label)

2023-06-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=155729

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
 Blocks||107325
 Ever confirmed|0   |1
   Keywords|needsUXEval |difficultyMedium, easyHack,
   ||skillCpp, topicDesign
   Severity|normal  |enhancement
 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda
   |.freedesktop.org|tion.org,
   ||mentoring@documentfoundatio
   ||n.org

--- Comment #6 from Heiko Tietze  ---
We discussed the topic in the design meeting.

Using the combobox to create a new style from selection is a handy function if
the sidebar is closed and should remain available. It is also possible to
change the font name to something not available on the system (Helvetica,
Roboto...), which is the only way to design a document for another workstation.

The decision was to show a confirmation box "Do you want to create a new style
from the current selection? [Yes/No]", ideally with a checkbox "[ ] Don't ask
again" taking into consideration whether yes or no is pressed.

Easyhackable, but no code pointer at hand.


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107325
[Bug 107325] [META] Style management commands bugs and enhancements
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 155729] Set paragraph style drop down is able to create new styles, which is unconventional (and not fitting the label)

2023-06-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=155729

--- Comment #5 from Mike Kaganski  ---
(In reply to Eyal Rozenberg from comment #4)
> (In reply to Telesto from comment #3)
> > B) Why should the new style be a child of heading 2? Only because heading 2
> > was applied prior to this?
> 
> Yes. You had Heading 2, you made some changes, you create a new style - that
> style is modified-Heading-2. Makes sense to me.

Agree.

Generally, I have no strong feelings about this feature - completely in the
realm of UX, can exist or be dropped (with inevitable https://xkcd.com/1172).

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 155729] Set paragraph style drop down is able to create new styles, which is unconventional (and not fitting the label)

2023-06-09 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=155729

--- Comment #4 from Eyal Rozenberg  ---
(In reply to Telesto from comment #3)
> B) Why should the new style be a child of heading 2? Only because heading 2
> was applied prior to this?

Yes. You had Heading 2, you made some changes, you create a new style - that
style is modified-Heading-2. Makes sense to me.

> You can't even tell this being the case, without
> the style sidebar open (or the edit style dialog)

Well, that's because the toolbar is a compact interface. It's a way to do
something while accepting the defaults when the full interface is not in view.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 155729] Set paragraph style drop down is able to create new styles, which is unconventional (and not fitting the label)

2023-06-09 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #3 from Telesto  ---
(In reply to Eyal Rozenberg from comment #2)
> (In reply to Telesto from comment #0)
> If you got prompted when this happens, "Create a new style named 'footnote'?
> Y/N" - would that be better in your view? I think I would be fine with that.

It's an improvement.. I have no strong opinion. 

I'm more or less questioning the design, because it surprised me. Are you
supposed to 'manage' styles with the toolbar, or only 'set' - read apply - a
style, as the label suggests.

A) If I create a style - under in this case - heading 2 I expect it to be
different from heading 2. The edit style dialog should probably open?

B) Why should the new style be a child of heading 2? Only because heading 2 was
applied prior to this? You can't even tell this being the case, without the
style sidebar open (or the edit style dialog)

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 155729] Set paragraph style drop down is able to create new styles, which is unconventional (and not fitting the label)

2023-06-09 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #2 from Eyal Rozenberg  ---
(In reply to Telesto from comment #0)
If you got prompted when this happens, "Create a new style named 'footnote'?
Y/N" - would that be better in your view? I think I would be fine with that.

(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #1)
> Do
> you think we should drop the feature to create a style by just typing the
> new name in the dropdown (keeping the ability to search for a style, maybe
> case-insensitive)?

I would say  "no". But - if I were shown evidence that people _mistakenly_ do
that a lot, then maybe I might change my mind.

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2023-06-09 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #1 from Heiko Tietze  ---
If you write "Footnote" with correct capitalization it works as expected. Do
you think we should drop the feature to create a style by just typing the new
name in the dropdown (keeping the ability to search for a style, maybe
case-insensitive)?

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