[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 156454] Indication of which table rows are considered heading rows is "hidden away" from the user

2023-08-31 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156454

--- Comment #9 from Eyal Rozenberg  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #8)
> We realized during the session that table styles always accept one rows as
> header, independently from the number of heading rows. Coming from Calc or
> Draw/Impress this makes sense but should reworked for Writer. If done it
> would provide a clear indication of header rows too.

... and consequently, I've opened bug 157024 about this behavior of table
"styles" (which are not styles).

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 156454] Indication of which table rows are considered heading rows is "hidden away" from the user

2023-08-31 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156454

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE

--- Comment #8 from Heiko Tietze  ---
We discussed the topic in the design meeting and agreed on having such an
indicator together with a larger rework of the table management as suggested in
bug 113603.

We realized during the session that table styles always accept one rows as
header, independently from the number of heading rows. Coming from Calc or
Draw/Impress this makes sense but should reworked for Writer. If done it would
provide a clear indication of header rows too.

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 113603 ***

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 156454] Indication of which table rows are considered heading rows is "hidden away" from the user

2023-08-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156454

Eyal Rozenberg  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15
   ||7024

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 156454] Indication of which table rows are considered heading rows is "hidden away" from the user

2023-07-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156454

LeroyG  changed:

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Version|7.6.0.0 alpha0+ |7.4.3.2 release

--- Comment #7 from LeroyG  ---
(In reply to Eyal Rozenberg from comment #0)
> Sure, I might be able to deduce this on inspection.

How?

As a simple workaround, you can (enable,) disable and re-enable the repetition
in the Table menu, and in the context menu (under Style) [and "in the 'Text
flow' tab", from where I set the repeating rows ever].
I have not noticed the first two options until now.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 156454] Indication of which table rows are considered heading rows is "hidden away" from the user

2023-07-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=156454

--- Comment #6 from Eyal Rozenberg  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #5)
> +0.5 to remove the (awkwardly labeled) command from the main menu
> -1 to add some indication or more interactions
> 
> I don't buy the "users will not find" argument.

If I haven't found it, few users will.

> If your table spawns over
> more than one page you start at least searching for a solution - and will
> find it easily.

Well, if the solution seems to be on the Table menu - you are unlikely to look
elsewhere. If it is not there - if you know this feature exists, maybe you're
more likely to find it; but if you don't - and many/most users don't - you are
quite unlikely not to look for row properties in table properties (and in a
vaguely-named tab to boot).

> Large tables are nothing the average user will face in daily
> business 

Heading rows repeat are just as important for smallish tables - since those
often start near the bottom of the page, or end up starting there due to edits.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 156454] Indication of which table rows are considered heading rows is "hidden away" from the user

2023-07-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Heiko Tietze  changed:

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2023-07-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #5 from Heiko Tietze  ---
+0.5 to remove the (awkwardly labeled) command from the main menu
-1 to add some indication or more interactions

I don't buy the "users will not find" argument. If your table spawns over more
than one page you start at least searching for a solution - and will find it
easily. Large tables are nothing the average user will face in daily business
and I disagree with the need to set header repetition in a over-convenient way.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 156454] Indication of which table rows are considered heading rows is "hidden away" from the user

2023-07-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #4 from QA Administrators  ---
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 156454] Indication of which table rows are considered heading rows is "hidden away" from the user

2023-07-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Eyal Rozenberg  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Summary|No indication of which  |Indication of which table
   |table rows are considered   |rows are considered heading
   |heading rows|rows is "hidden away" from
   ||the user

--- Comment #3 from Eyal Rozenberg  ---
(In reply to Regina Henschel from comment #2)
> The formatting of the paragraphs in the cells is not relevant for the
> "repeat rows" feature.

It's not formally relevant, but - it's relevant in terms of user experience and
expectations.

> How many rows are set to repeat is visible in the "Text flow" tab of the
> table properties and can be changed there. I do not understand your problem.

Oh, you're actually right! That did not even occur to me. So, let me rephrase
the bug title. If the indication is hidden away somewhere that is not linked
from where the repetition can be set, nor from some header-row-specific UI
element, nor directly from the context menu for the header rows - then it is
unlikely users will find it.

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