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--- Comment #23 from خالد حسني  ---
Created attachment 182033
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Screencast comparing the cursor movement of ligated with unligated text

I believe the problem is that LibreOffice (or writer) is measuring the text
width in chunks to determine the cursor position, e.g. in the string “office”
for the cursor at “o|ffice” it will measure the width of “o” to position the
cursor, and in “of|fice” it will measure the width of “of” and so on. For
ligatures where the width of the partial text is close enough to the with of
the ligature component, things appear to work, but in the problematic cases
here the difference is way off that the cursor appears to be jumping.

See the cursor movement in the attached screencast and compare the cursor
position when it jumps with the unligated text below it, the cursor jumps to
exactly where the unligated glyph is.

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Problem still present on 7.1.3.2. Comment 17 is still valid.

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--- Comment #20 from martin_hos...@sil.org ---
Almost certainly will never be fixed.

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Problem still present on 6.2.3.2. Comment 17 is still valid.

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--- Comment #17 from RGB  ---
Problem still present 6.0.4.2. The behaviour can be seen not only with Graphite
fonts, but with OpenType ones too. If you take a font with "alternate
fractions", for example, like Sukhumala(1) and set the font as

Sukhumala:afrc

for the text "1/2" you'll see exactly the same behaviour when moving the cursor
from right to left towards the fraction.

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(1) http://www.softerviews.org/Fonts.html#Sukhumala

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--- Comment #15 from RGB  ---
Created attachment 131682
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Screencast updated to LibO 5.3

Still present on 5.3. The behaviour is a bit different than what's shown on the
previous screencast (now it's back to the originally reported behaviour), so I
updated it.

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--- Comment #13 from martin_hos...@sil.org ---
If my understanding of the internals of libo are correct, the cursor behaviour
is not based on font rendering but on Unicode character properties. Thus,
although graphite is being used to turn a long string of letters into a single
glyph, the cursor movement is based purely on the underlying characters. This
would happen whether the font were Graphite or OT based.

The key code seems to be in SwContentNode::GoNext (sw/core/docnode/node.cxx)
and uses an ICU break iterator to control the cursor movement.

Basically, this isn't a graphite or graphite integration bug.

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--- Comment #12 from RGB  ---
Created attachment 122845
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Short screencast

This is a short screencast that show the behaviour on LibO 5.1 (file is a mp4
video)

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--- Comment #11 from RGB  ---
On 5.1 the behaviour is different, but still not correct. Now, when by pressing
the cursor arrow to the left you arrive to the "prime" character, the cursor
remains on its position for six strokes before jumping to the other side, which
is a bit confusing too. 

Try writing, on the same conditions as before (with textm=1) the following text

Text \prime more text \alpha and final text

and try to move the cursor one position at a time from the right. Now there is
a confusing behaviour not only on the prime and alpha characters, but on the
word "final" with the cursor remaining for two strokes on the "n" and then
jumping the "fi" ligature on one step.

Tested on vanilla LibO 5.1.0.3 (64 bits) under openSUSE 13.2.

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--- Comment #9 from Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com ---
I have verified this issue on:
Ubuntu 14.04 x64
LibreOffice 4.3.4.1 release

Changing priority according to flowchart:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/0/06/Prioritizing_Bugs_Flowchart.jpg

Minor - can slow down professional quality work but won't prevent it.
Lowest - seems like this is really a corner case issue and the workaround is
pretty straight forward (just push left a few more times).

@RGB - thanks for reporting and for your patience and understanding. Our team
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--- Comment #6 from martin_hos...@sil.org 2012-01-03 20:19:19 PST ---
did you fix the font?

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 30731] Cursor behaviour with Graphite fonts

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https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30731

RGB r...@email.it changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEEDINFO|NEW

--- Comment #5 from RGB r...@email.it 2011-12-23 16:53:26 PST ---
The problem is present on 3.5 beta2.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 30731] Cursor behaviour with Graphite fonts

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RGB r...@email.it changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords|NEEDINFO|

--- Comment #3 from RGB r...@email.it 2011-10-28 17:01:52 PDT ---
(In reply to comment #2)
 @RGB:
 Still a problem for you?

Yes. Same behavior as described on initial entry with LibO 3.4.2.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 30731] Cursor behaviour with Graphite fonts

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Rainer Bielefeld libreoff...@bielefeldundbuss.de changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||LibreOffice@bielefeldundbus
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Version|unspecified |LibO 3.3.0 Beta2
   Keywords||NEEDINFO

--- Comment #2 from Rainer Bielefeld libreoff...@bielefeldundbuss.de 
2011-10-27 22:33:10 PDT ---
Modified Version due to report date.

@RGB:
Still a problem for you?

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