[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 33749] Inconsistencies in Help pages on Cell Merging and Splitting (unmerging) in Calc

2021-09-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33749

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 33749] Inconsistencies in Help pages on Cell Merging and Splitting (unmerging) in Calc

2021-09-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33749

--- Comment #27 from Ross Johnson  ---
Proposal (relative to the current development version of LO):

1) Replace the entire "Format > Merge Cells" submenu with the single "Format >
Merge and Center Cells" button with all the same behaviour it has on the
Formatting Bar.
2) Replace the "Split Cells" button from the context menu of a selected merged
cell with the "Merge and Center Cells" button showing the current merge status,
as it does elsewhere.

Rationale:
The current behaviour of the "Merge and Center Cells" button on the Formatting
Bar is consistent with all other formatting buttons, eg, "Align Left" is still
"Align Left" (but shown activated) when the text is currently already left
aligned, and toggling it off reverts the alignment to a default alignment. It
behaves correctly and intuitively IMO.

The "Merge Cells" button in the "Format > Merge Cells" submenu should be
removed as it appears to do the same as "Merge and Center Cells", that is, when
it works correctly. It isn't helpful though as it has at least two problems: 1)
it is greyed out if a merged cell is selected, unlike "Merge and Centre Cells";
2) it becomes selectable when a range of cells is selected that includes a
merged cell, but won't perform the merge.

Removing both "Merge Cells" and "Split Cells" buttons from the Format > Merge
Cells submenu leaves one entry, the "Merge and Center Cells" button, which
should then be promoted to the top level menu.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 33749] Inconsistencies in Help pages on Cell Merging and Splitting (unmerging) in Calc

2021-09-09 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33749

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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--- Comment #26 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #25)
> (In reply to Rafael Lima from comment #24)
> > ... in Writer the terminology is correct: "Split Cells". ... In Calc it 
> > is not possible to Split a cell. 
> 
> True, so the only argument is consistency and burden for l10n.

No further opinion, leaving it for the potential volunteer.

It's the label for .uno:SplitCell in CalcCommands.xcu and STR_UNDO_REMERGE
(sic!) in sc/inc/globstr.hrc

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 33749] Inconsistencies in Help pages on Cell Merging and Splitting (unmerging) in Calc

2021-09-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #25 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Rafael Lima from comment #24)
> ... in Writer the terminology is correct: "Split Cells". ... In Calc it 
> is not possible to Split a cell. 

True, so the only argument is consistency and burden for l10n.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 33749] Inconsistencies in Help pages on Cell Merging and Splitting (unmerging) in Calc

2021-09-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #24 from Rafael Lima  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #23)
> Not a native speaker so with grain of salt: "Split" is more common and
> natural than "Unmerge" which implies that something has been merged before.
> All this discussion is quite academic to me. But OTOH renaming is pretty
> easy. However, where is "Split"?

Hi Heiko. Just to be clear, in Writer the terminology is correct: "Split
Cells". This is correct because in Writer, if you add a table you can select
any cell and split it further. And the newly created cells can be split again,
and again...

In Calc it is not possible to Split a cell. If you select a single cell, it is
not possible to split it in two. The only thing that can be done is first to
merge cells and later "Unmerge" them restoring their original situation.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 33749] Inconsistencies in Help pages on Cell Merging and Splitting (unmerging) in Calc

2021-09-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33749

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--- Comment #23 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Not a native speaker so with grain of salt: "Split" is more common and natural
than "Unmerge" which implies that something has been merged before. All this
discussion is quite academic to me. But OTOH renaming is pretty easy. However,
where is "Split"?

The command in question is .uno:ToggleMergeCells with the label "Merge and
Center Cells" (center means that regardless the alignment before the content
will be cenetered). It splits/unmerges if applied to a previously merged cell.

We also have a checkbox in the sidebar "[ ] Merge cells" with the tooltip
"Joins the selected cells into one"…

The command .uno:MergeCells (under Format > Merge) just merges and becomes
disabled on previously merged cells. The pendant command is .uno:SplitCell with
the label "Split Cells".

My take => NAB.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 33749] Inconsistencies in Help pages on Cell Merging and Splitting (unmerging) in Calc

2021-08-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #22 from Julien Nabet  ---
Xisco/Heiko: thought you might be interested in this one to comment Rafael's
suggestions.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 33749] Inconsistencies in Help pages on Cell Merging and Splitting (unmerging) in Calc

2021-08-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Summary|Inconsistencies with Help   |Inconsistencies in Help
   |texts, Tooltips,|pages on Cell Merging and
   |Translations regarding Cell |Splitting (unmerging) in
   |Merging and Splitting in|Calc
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