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--- Comment #36 from Edmund Laugasson  ---
As I cannot edit a comment I need to post a new one.

I wanted instead of "In addition in MS Word 2016 there is possible to choose
what type of corrections (bubbles) will be shown on edge (these three modes)."

... to say:

In addition in MS Word 2016 there is possible to choose what type of
corrections (bubbles) will be shown on edge:
* comments
* ink text
* added, deleted parts
* formatting

in LO Writer such filtering can be done only inside track changes management
window but not directly in text. Current way is great but in "display in text"
would be a good addition to track changes management window for all of
previously described features that are currently only available in that track
changes management window.

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--- Comment #35 from Edmund Laugasson  ---
To conclude I would say as follows. I tested track changes also in MS Word
2016. There is default mode exactly as in LO Writer currently - nothing is
displayed on right edge as there is simple mode by default. Only changed lines
will be marked on left as in LO Writer. I used other language version than
English and choice names here are not exactly as they might be in MS Word -
it's my free translation.

If to turn on track changes "full mode" then by default only attribute changes
will be shown as bubbles on right edge. If to turn on "show corrections in
bubbles" then you will see all corrections on right edge bubbles. There is also
a mode "show only corrections and comments in bubbles" which is also missing on
LO.

In my humble opinion managing changes in compact track changes management
window is very compact and comfortable way. But it would be nice to have also a
MS Word way as MS Word already has a LO Writer way.

These three bubble displaying modes (only attributes, all corrections, only
corrections and comments) are missing in LO and what people want. Implementing
these three modes into LO would be the first challenge for developers.

In addition in MS Word 2016 there is possible to choose what type of
corrections (bubbles) will be shown on edge (these three modes).

Also there is possible to choose persons, who's corrections will be shown. In
LO there is filtering in track changes management window but it works only for
filtering results in management window and not directly in text. This would be
the second challenge for developers.

in MS Word 2016 there is also a mode "show corrections inline" - this is
exactly the mode LO Writer is currently using.

In MS Word there is also an option to show only comments and attribute changes
in bubbles on right. That is feature I could not find in LO Writer. The most
important are comments and these can be managed currently in LO only in track
changes management window. This is certainly very compact and quick way and I
like it but it would be nice to have also that way as MS Word does. This could
be the third challenge for developers.

So I mentioned three challenges for developers by my humble opinion in order to
bring track changes onto level people probably want and why this bug report has
been created already so long time ago.

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--- Comment #34 from Edmund Laugasson  ---
(In reply to Christoph from comment #3)
> There have been some ideation iterations within the OOo Notes2
> implementation, see "Change Tracking Integration" at:
> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Notes2_OtherIdeas
> 
> The mockup I've created that time:
> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/File:
> Notes2_GeneralMockups_RoughIdeas_ReviewTools_ForIdeasList.png

This mockup looks actually very nice. I guess this could be an option to turn
such feature on but leave also an option to use current version of track
changes. I guess there could be different modes of track changes and then users
can decide which one to use.

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--- Comment #33 from Edmund Laugasson  ---
Basically as there is already a button to show/hide track changes, there would
be nice to have a button "Show track changes on edge" (optionally allow also
choose either right or left edge) or "Switch to MSO track changes mode". Then
it would be easy to switch between two track changes mode. The only missing
feature seems to be to show these different color bubbles with changes on edge.
Hiding changes already exist which makes the result actually comparable with
MSO. Instead of these colorful bubbles there is a track changes management
dialog where all changes with names, date/time and comments are shown and can
be actually managed in a very compact and fast way.

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--- Comment #32 from Edmund Laugasson  ---
Would propose to keep current version and possibly add a configuration option
to switch onto MS Office version of track changes and support also importing
while opening MSO document in LO with track changes made in MSO.

At least by my humble opinion I am satisfied with current track changes logic
and design in LO and would like to use it also in future like now.

Certainly this is fundamental difference how the track changes is solved in MSO
and LO - therefore it would be nice to have similar or same behaviour in LO
like in MSO.

There could be different options how to enable such behaviour like in MSO. One
option would be to add an effect that changes will not shown in text. Then
there could be an option while accepting/denying changes, allow to show them.
Another option would be to just switch completely to MSO way to track changes.

Currently there is a button to  show/hide changes (on appropriate toolbar
without turning on experimental features) - so if showing track changes
disturbs anybody - these can be just switched off and you will always see the
latest text with all changes as in MSO. At the same time there remains ability
to accept/deny changes whenever there would be needed to decide it.

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--- Comment #31 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Johannes Rohr from comment #30)
> Unfortunately, this just moves the changes dialogue into a sidebar...

That's true. It's only a small step, nothing else.

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--- Comment #30 from Johannes Rohr  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #26)

> 
> As announced in the release notes [1], the sidebar deck "Manage Changes" was
> implemented with 5.3 as an experimental feature (don't remember why). If you
> are a brave user enable experimental features per Tools > Options >
> LibreOffice: Advanced.

Unfortunately, this just moves the changes dialogue into a sidebar, but it does
not add new functionality, or even implement what the reporter of this bug has
asked for (and what MS Word has been having now for a decade)

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--- Comment #29 from Benoît Robin  ---
I personally gave up using LO for novels, short stories and RPG editing just
because of that blatant lack of an essential feature.

So each time Ubuntu gives me a LO update (so far 1:5.2.5~rc1-0ubuntu1~xenial0),
I check that, but there's no usable change-tracking, and I go back to Windows
and Word, infuriated.

IMHO, this is a no-brainer : anyone professionally using a text editor needs to
track changes, and displaying changes in the text itself makes the text
unreadable, and therefore the whole change-tracking feature unusable.

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--- Comment #28 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to whynot from comment #27)
> ...it does not address the main thread of this bug: to display the
> changes on the margins. Also, as far as I can see, the sidebar only shows
> "metadata" of the changes (date, author, kind of change). Correct?

The sidebar has limited capabilities today, yes. We discussed the requirements
at https://user-prompt.com/de/tracking-changes-with-libreoffice/ mainly with
focus on bug 87695. But there is also an alternative solution to the margin
issue included.

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--- Comment #27 from why...@nurfuerspam.de ---
Oh, my goodness! That is so exciting! Thank you so much for this information. I
usually pay quite close attention to the LO release notes, but I must have
missed this one because it was under "Experimental" (without a lot of
explanations) and not under "Writer").
Definitely, the possibility to sort comments by date and other features will be
extremely powerful! I am not even aware that this functionality exists in MS
Word. 
(And yes, I am usually a "brave user" of LO experimental features...)
That said, while this sidebar is wonderful to display and manage the changes,
it does not address the main thread of this bug: to display the changes on the
margins. Also, as far as I can see, the sidebar only shows "metadata" of the
changes (date, author, kind of change). Correct?

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--- Comment #26 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to whynot from comment #25)
> @Heiko:
> In the Bug 79420 report, you mentioned that this is being implemented on
> (Comment #5).

As announced in the release notes [1], the sidebar deck "Manage Changes" was
implemented with 5.3 as an experimental feature (don't remember why). If you
are a brave user enable experimental features per Tools > Options >
LibreOffice: Advanced.

[1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/5.3#Sidebar_2

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--- Comment #25 from why...@nurfuerspam.de ---
@Heiko:
In the Bug 79420 report, you mentioned that this is being implemented on
(Comment #5). Do you have any additional insight in this regard? Any idea for
what release of LO this is targeted?

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Being duped by bug 79420 it's better to have all discussion at this place.


Referenced Bugs:

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--- Comment #22 from strata_ran...@hotmail.com ---
I agree, LO's implementation of (particularly in displaying) tracked changes is
still decidedly inferior to MS Word 97/2003, which was my first exposure to
such options.

In my case, I downloaded LO for some of the perks it offers over OO (including
having a review toolbar shipped by default; I had to build one manually in OO).

One big thing that LO should have is the concept of 'original' vs. 'final'
views of a document with tracked edits.  Currently the only two views we have
are "show markup" (original + markup) and "hide markup (final + no markup). 
This is insufficient; it should be expanded to match Word's level of
functionality where original v. final and with/without markup are separate
options.  This gives us a combination of four view modes:

- "Original"
- "Original with markup" forces deletions to be displayed inline; insertions
can be displayed inline or as margin balloons.
- "Final with markup" forces insertions to be displayed inline; deletions can
be displayed inline or as margin balloons.
- "Final"

One big issue I have run into is that LO's handling of tracked linebreak edits
is that when markup is shown, the document is displayed reflecting *ALL*
linebreaks in the file, even ones that were inserted or deleted.  This impacts
how the display is paginated, not cool...

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--- Comment #21 from why...@nurfuerspam.de ---
Does anyone have an idea whether this is being worked on? It's not in the
just-released v5.3, and the developers are only starting to populate the 5.4
release notes. 
I heard rumors that this will be included (or perhaps has already been
implemented?) for the online version of Libreoffice (where, of course, it would
make a lot of sense for optimized collaborative editing).

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--- Comment #20 from why...@nurfuerspam.de ---
I just checked the list of new features for LO 5.0 beta, and unfortunately, no
mention of an improved way to show track changes. 
I am doing a lot of collaborative writing in an academic environment, and I
agree with many others here that the current way of displaying the changes is
not really usable. Keeping all the deleted text crossed-out will also give a
completely wrong impression of the actual length of the text after the edits.
In many cases, one targets a particular word or page limit, where this is
totally misleading. 
What could be done in order to bring this to the attention of more developers?
Is this really to difficult to implement? Apparently, there is already a
mechanism to place comments as balloons on the margins. So shouldn't it also be
possible to display deleted text like this, like MS Word does? Only the display
colors, etc., of the actual balloon would have to be a bit different to
distinguish it from a comment.

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--- Comment #19 from Jean-Baptiste Faure jbfa...@libreoffice.org ---
What about if we had a button in the track changes dialog allowing to
apply/removing a set of changes *temporarily*. Such a function could allow to
see a change in situation and see what the text is without the change.

Best regards. JBF

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--- Comment #18 from Daniel Jenk danlj...@gmail.com ---
Just to follow on from the other comments, the presentation of deleted text
with tracked changes as underline or strikethrough, etc. in the main body of
the text makes it unusable for me. Others may be more tolerant, but with many
changes it is not possible for me to both monitor my changes and read the
intended meaning of the modified sentence if the deleted text remains. The
ability to move the tracking of deletions to the margin or possibly just a
place marker on the outside of the main lines of text would make this program
an easy choice over MS Office. Of course, one could track changes and not show
them in the present version of Writer, but this does not allow the editor to do
his or her work without flipping back and forth between different versions.
Balloons work well, but maybe just a mark of where the text was deleted and the
ability to maybe mouseover the area and get a bubble of the deletion would be a
good halfway point. Happy to help if there is some way to contribute.

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--- Comment #17 from Jean-Baptiste Faure jbfa...@libreoffice.org ---
Not so good idea for me. In the attached printscreen it is very difficult to
see the deleted text. You can't read the text as it was before deletion, that
is very inconvenient when you have to decide to accept or refuse the change.
I would prefer an easy way to switch on/off the viewing of changes.

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--- Comment #16 from Gerry gerry.trep...@googlemail.com ---
Update on vote for enhancements: Use margins to track changes is with 11
votes *Number 1* of the TopTen for Enhancement Requests on the
Documentfoudation Wiki. 

Please see the votes on:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Vote_for_Enhancement#Top_Ten_of_Requests

If this enhancement is important for you, consider adding your vote to the wiki
page.


P.S. Of course, if there are many votes, there is no guarantee that developers
start working on this enhancement, but still it shows the relevance of this
enhancement.

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--- Comment #15 from Jorendc jore...@libreoffice.org ---
*** Bug 47298 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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--- Comment #13 from ch...@yahoo.com ---
Extremely important for me. Probably the most important reason to shift to
LibreOffice since I need to collaborate with other people and use track change
all the time. Showing changes in balloons is the prefer way for edition.

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--- Comment #14 from ch...@yahoo.com ---
Extremely important for me. Probably the most important reason to shift to
LibreOffice since I need to collaborate with other people and use track change
all the time. Showing changes in balloons is the prefer way for edition.

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--- Comment #12 from Johannes Rohr jor...@gmail.com ---
The original OpenOffice.org bug report was submitted twelve (!) years ago:
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=9661

Are there patent issues preventing this from being addressed or is no developer
considering this an issue needed to be dealt with? 

In my professional context, this is /the/ major showstopper preventing many of
my colleagues from abandoning MS Office. Everyone is used to changes being
visualised in bubbles on the margins. (And everyone is use to being able to
print draft documents out this way for on-paper review, but that's another
issue).

I would really like to warmly recommend to make this a priority!!!

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--- Comment #11 from samwichse sgrin...@yahoo.com ---
The poor handling of editing comments is basically the only feature keeping me
from deploying LO at my work (researchers), please pretty please add this.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 34355] Use margins to track changes

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--- Comment #10 from bugquestcon...@online.de ---
Triggered by question
http://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/8809/track-changes/?answer=8812#post-id-8812
in AskLibO I looked into bugzilla and found there is an enhancement request for
printing of comments at the page margin.
(https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36815) . Maybe these to request
can be dealt together.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 34355] Use margins to track changes

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--- Comment #9 from Gerry gerry.trep...@googlemail.com ---
For your information: Use margins to track changes is the *Number 2* of the
TopTen for Enhancement Requests on the Documentfoudation Wiki. 

Please see the votes on:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Vote_for_Enhancement#Top_Ten_of_Requests

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 34355] Use margins to track changes

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--- Comment #8 from Cyril cgir...@free.fr 2012-08-21 23:26:58 UTC ---
Yes changes are a real need, and LO 3.5.5 is not good enough.

For me, this simple step would already be a good improvement:
- to be able to display Writer document with changes only with Margin Marks

Suggestion:
- add an Attribute Hidden in Deletions Attributes (th

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 34355] Use margins to track changes

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Leo H leo.h.hildebra...@gmail.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEEDINFO|NEW

--- Comment #5 from Leo H leo.h.hildebra...@gmail.com 2012-01-11 06:18:44 PST 
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This issue remains unresolved in LibreOffice 3.5.0 (tested and confirmed with
beta2 prerelease).

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 34355] Use margins to track changes

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Leo H leo.h.hildebra...@gmail.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   See Also||https://launchpad.net/bugs/
   ||782406

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 34355] Use margins to track changes

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--- Comment #6 from Leo H leo.h.hildebra...@gmail.com 2012-01-11 06:51:09 PST 
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The key issue is that the Compare Document functionality of LibreOffice
Writer is woefully inadequate. For example, type (without quotes):

LibreOffice Writer. Compare Document.

Save as version1.odt.  Then add one space at the start and one paragraph marker
after the first period, as follows (again without the quotes):

 LibreOffice Writer.
 Compare Document.

Save as version2.odt. Now use Compare Document to identify the changes in
version2.odt relative to version1.odt:  We simply get the full text twice, and
EVERYTHING is marked as changed, either as inserted or as deleted.

Now try editing and version comparison not of a page with just four words, but
of a 40-page report or of a 250-page book:  This is simply a catastrophe with
whole coloured swathes of repeated identical or near-identical text, but all
identified and marked by LibreOffice as completely different.

CONCLUSION: Compare Document in LibreOffice Writer at the moment is
completely clueless and completely useless.

Yet fine-grained comparison of versions of a document is an absolutely
essential function, eg in editing, in collaborative projects, and similar.

The way is which the results of good fine-grained version comparison are
presented (eg, in the main text, in a margin, in balloons, or otherwise) is
less relevant than the very ability itself to compare and identify precisely
and exclusively all true changes.

And this also applies to footnotes, endnotes, fields, headers, footers, frames,
etc, which are currently completely ignored by LibreOffice Writer Document
Compare.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 34355] Use margins to track changes

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Renato Mendes renato.men...@bndes.gov.br changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Version|LibO 3.4.0 release  |LibO 3.5.0 Beta2

--- Comment #7 from Renato Mendes renato.men...@bndes.gov.br 2012-01-11 
10:42:06 PST ---
tested and confirmed with beta2 prerelease

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 34355] Use margins to track changes

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Björn Michaelsen bjoern.michael...@canonical.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |NEEDINFO

--- Comment #4 from Björn Michaelsen bjoern.michael...@canonical.com 
2011-12-23 11:53:03 PST ---
[This is an automated message.]
This bug was filed before the changes to Bugzilla on 2011-10-16. Thus it
started right out as NEW without ever being explicitly confirmed. The bug is
changed to state NEEDINFO for this reason. To move this bug from NEEDINFO back
to NEW please check if the bug still persists with the 3.5.0 beta1 or beta2
prereleases.
Details on how to test the 3.5.0 beta1 can be found at:
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/BugHunting_Session_3.5.0.-1

more detail on this bulk operation:
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/RFC-Operation-Spamzilla-tp3607474p3607474.html

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