[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 34585] Frame with no-fill background has white background instead of transparent

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--- Comment #28 from Rainer Bielefeld Retired  
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Still REPRODUCIBLE with newly created writer document (and original sample
document) and Server Installation of Version: 7.4.0.0.alpha0+ (x64)  Build ID
b000d964fcc8849d10576bf3539bde7729db2eb1
CPU threads: 12; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 19044; UI render: default; VCL: win
Locale: de-DE (de_DE); UI: en-US  |  Calc: CL  |  Auto Colibre Theme  | 
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--- Comment #27 from zhangal...@gmail.com ---
This bug still exists in version 7.2.6.2.

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--- Comment #26 from stragu  ---
Reproduced as in Description with:

Version: 7.2.0.0.alpha1+ / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: bb54d6d8241a06a6772052b77b67d6a4f686426c
CPU threads: 8; OS: Linux 4.15; UI render: default; VCL: gtk3
Locale: en-AU (en_AU.UTF-8); UI: en-US
TinderBox: Linux-rpm_deb-x86_64@86-TDF, Branch:master, Time:
2021-06-11_20:14:38
Calc: threaded

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--- Comment #25 from Regina Henschel  ---
Tested with Version: 7.1.0.0.alpha0+ (x64)
Build ID: c5b985bc9bd8d56fb012260cb1685a617261e7fc
CPU threads: 8; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 18362; UI render: Skia/Raster; VCL: win
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The error still exists.

Despite showing a white background, in file the frame has the style attributes
fo:background="transparent" and draw:fill="none".

It Word opens the odt file, the frame is transparent.

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Timur  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Version|3.3.0 release   |Inherited From OOo
   Hardware|x86-64 (AMD64)  |All
Summary|frame with no-fill  |Frame with no-fill
   |background has white|background has white
   |background  |background instead of
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--- Comment #23 from Frank Berke  ---
Now testing LO 5.1 (Linux AMD64), I still see this bug.

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--- Comment #22 from Eldar  ---
Why this bug still not fixed? I have troubles when I want to apply style to
cells. This bug overrides background color in cells to white color.

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--- Comment #21 from bugzi...@rhynas.com ---
This thread confirms the problems I'm finding with items created in DRAW not
displaying properly when placed in a Writer frame, but work ok when pasted
directly on the page. My default setting for frames was Area fill= None,
Transparency= None, and the defects only appeared after reloading a file.

I found that Text boxes and lines (arrows etc) displayed ok but that shapes
(circles, rectangles) all disappeared.

The workaround I found (and mentioned in this thread) was to set Area Fill=
Colour e.g. white, Transparency = Solid, 100%, which precludes using any frame
background colour.

I'm using LO 4.4.0.3 on Win7, and as a new user I find issues like this very
frustrating and reduce product confidence.

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--- Comment #20 from tmacalp tmac...@gmail.com ---
I tested LO 4.4.0.3 a bit and can confirm that the behavior for no-fill frames
is relatively the same as originally reported.  No-fill frames still just
inherit the background from their anchor point.

One change that's new in 4.4 is that a no-fill frame that's nested in (and
anchored to) a slightly transparent frame will now stack its transparency with
the background frame.  In 4.3, the nested no-fill frame would still inherit the
background frame's color/transparency, but would drop one layer to blend in and
try to match the background frame.  But that might be another bug.

Another change in 4.4 is that with older documents, no-fill frames are being
converted to white/100% transparent on file open.  This will make a lot of test
documents appear to work properly.  This might be related to bug 87369.

I created an attachment for another bug report that demonstrates some weird
no-fill frame inconsistencies:
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=95338

If testing the above attachment in 4.4, find all frames labeled no-fill and
turn their area settings to type None and 0% transparency.

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--- Comment #19 from tmacalp tmac...@gmail.com ---
(In reply to Timur from comment #18)
 While in 4.2 and 4.3 on right click there is Frame-Background, in 4.4 master
 there is Frame-Transparency.
 Looking at https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=43689, in 4.3 No
 background filling didn't have Transparency option. In 4.4, there is
 Transparency option and it can be set.
 Couldn't reproduce and seems solved to me. Found while looking at Bug 84294.

I just tested in the latest 440 master nightly as of 2014-11-06_00:36:43 and I
am still able reproduce this bug.

Even though the area transparency settings have been expanded and moved to
another tab, the setting this bug is concerned with is the fill property of
None.  This property still makes the frame simply inherit the fill color of
the anchor point instead of being truly transparent.

I opened the same sample document in the nightly and it behaves the same way
all other versions of OpenOffice and LibreOffice have behaved.  The frames with
an area fill setting of None still inherit the background color of white.  

The only difference is that the new interface didn't implement the constraint
to automatically grey out the transparency setting when No-Fill is selected. 
So, one can now actually set 100% transparency on a No-Fill frame... 

IMO, a fill setting of None should simply toggle transparency to Solid 100%
transparency.  Also, moving to Solid 100% transparency should simply set the
frame to be a no-filled frame.  Changing to anything other than a Solid 100%
should move fill from None to something else.  For compatibility with the
current behavior, perhaps there should be another fill type of Inherited that
inherits background from the anchor point.

Basically, it's hard to fix this issue without destroying compatibility.  A
quick search found this OpenOffice bug from 2004 that was closed for this very
reason: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=32724

There is also an open bug report from 2003 here:
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=20209

In those bug reports, this issue is characterized as a historical design
flaw.  It has not been addressed by the current 4.4.0 master, unless something
changed in the past week.

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--- Comment #18 from Timur gti...@gmail.com ---
While in 4.2 and 4.3 on right click there is Frame-Background, in 4.4 master
there is Frame-Transparency.
Looking at https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=43689, in 4.3 No
background filling didn't have Transparency option. In 4.4, there is
Transparency option and it can be set.
Couldn't reproduce and seems solved to me. Found while looking at Bug 84294.

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--- Comment #17 from Carlos Mazon carlosmazongo...@gmail.com ---
Bug persists in LibreOffice 4.3.1.2

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sasha.libreoff...@gmail.com changed:

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Version|4.3.0.4 release |3.3.0 release

--- Comment #15 from sasha.libreoff...@gmail.com ---
Thanks for additional testing.
Sorry, but 'version' is where bug appeared. Not a current version. If bug no
more exist then we just close bugreport.
Changing back to 3.3.0

Thanks again for interesting in this bug.

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*** Bug 82005 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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Version|3.3.0 release   |4.3.0.4 release

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I'm having this exact problem with Libre Office 4.3.0.4

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*** Bug 60525 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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--- Comment #12 from tmacalp tmac...@gmail.com ---
I just marked another report as a dupe of this one.  The interesting thing
about that report is that the no-fill frame inherited its background from a
table's cell's background color.  

No-Fill frames seem to behave very differently based on where they are
anchored. Here is a list of how a no-fill frame behaves when anchored to a...

1 Page with no set background
  The page background is ultimately white, so the inserted frame sets its
background color to white, obscuring objects arranged behind it.

2 Page with set color background
  The frame takes background color of the page. This frame will obscure any
objects behind it. 

3 Page with graphic background
  The inserted frame does some magic and changes its background to be a cutout
of the page's background image.  This means it will *appear* to be transparent
until you arrange the frame on top of another object.  Then it shows straight
through to the page's background.

4 Another frame with no set background
  The inserted frame takes background color (white if that frame didn't inherit
a background from its anchor point). This frame will obscure objects/page
background behind it. 

5 Another frame with set color background
  The inserted frame takes background color. This frame will obscure
objects/page background behind it. 

6 Another frame with 100% transparent background
  The inserted frame takes background color from its anchor point, which was
transparent, and works like we would expect. Both frames now work like we would
expect a no-fill frame to, and show through to objects in the background.

7 Another frame with graphic background
  The inserted frame behaves kind of like it does when anchored to a page with
a graphic background.  It changes its background to be cutout of anchor point's
background.  Again, this means it will *appear* to be transparent until you put
it on top of another object. It does something REALLY funky when the no fill
frame that runs outside the parent graphic frame.  Since it's just inheriting
the background frame's graphic, it will tile that graphic instead of showing
through to the actual page's background.

8 Frame with gradient background
  The inserted frame changes background to be the same as anchor point's
background.  At the least, it should be set to behave like if it were anchored
to a frame with a graphic background, with pseudo-transparency.  But it does
something even worse--it sets its background to the same style of gradient but
reproduces it on the scale of the inside frame.

9 Table with no background
  The frame takes background color (white if default). This frame will obscure
objects/page background behind it.

10 Table with set color background
  The frame takes background color. This frame will obscure objects/page
background behind it.

11 Table with graphic background
  The frame behaves like it does when anchored to a frame with a graphic
background.  It changes its background to be cutout of anchor point's
background.  Again, this means it will *appear* to be transparent until it runs
out of the table. It then does the same funky thing a no fill frame does when
anchored to another frame with a graphic background and tiles the graphic,
obscuring any objects/page background behind it.

12 Paragraph with background set to color  (the case of this bug report!)
  The frame uses the anchor point's background color.  The paragraph style
overrides any other container style (page/frame/table), so the no fill frame
will have a background of the paragraph style, even if it's in a container with
another background.  This will obscure any objects behind the no-fill frame.

13 Paragraph with graphic background
  The frame uses the anchor point's background color, which is a graphic.  I'm
not sure when you would ever use a graphic as a background for a paragraph, but
that's another story.  Just like with the paragraph with a colored background,
the inserted frame will override any container backgrounds.  It will act like a
no fill frame inserted into a frame or table with a background, and begin to
tile the image when it's stretched.  It too will obscure any objects behind the
frame. 

14 Character style with any background
  The inserted frame falls back to the paragraph style, not using the character
style's background.  It doesn't inherit the character's style, even when
anchored to character.

I'm sure there are more cases of things that frames can be anchored to/inherit
its background from, but these were the only examples I could think of.  I
could even create a sample document with examples if needed.

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--- Comment #9 from tmacalp tmac...@gmail.com ---
I can confirm that this is still an issue in 4.1.1.2.

This behavior is even more apparent if you anchor the inserted frame to a frame
with a gradient as a background. It will simply set the inner frame's
background to the same gradient and display it on a smaller scale.

There is a work around, though.  Give the inserted frame a background color and
set the transparency to 100%.  After that, it should behave as you would expect
No Fill to.  I'm not sure if this transparency causes any additional
processing for print/view/export.

As a side note, 100% transparent frames are also my work-around for dealing
with the effects of bug 61306 (No Fill frames inside
transparent-filled-frames causing line artifacting.)

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--- Comment #8 from Owen Genat owen.ge...@gmail.com ---
It is not explicitly stated that the frame described in this bug is that
created via Insert  Frame... although I imagine it is. Refer my comment
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62505#c2 about the anchor point
influencing the background colour for this type of frame.

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 OS/Version|Windows (All)   |All
 Status|RESOLVED|UNCONFIRMED
 Resolution|INVALID |
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--- Comment #7 from sasha.libreoff...@gmail.com 2012-08-24 09:29:09 UTC ---
reproduced in 3.5.5 and 3.6.0 on Fedora 64 bit
option No fill result in filling with color of page (not white color)

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 34585] frame with no-fill background has white background

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Florian Reisinger reisi...@gmail.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEEDINFO|RESOLVED
 Resolution||INVALID
 CC||reisi...@gmail.com

--- Comment #3 from Florian Reisinger reisi...@gmail.com 2012-08-14 14:02:10 
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Dear bug submitter!

Due to the fact, that there are a lot of NEEDINFO bugs with no answer within
the last six months, we close all of these bugs.

To keep this message short, more infos are available @
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/NeedinfoClosure#Statement

Thanks for understanding and hopefully updating your bug, so that everything is
prepared for developers to fix your problem.

Yours!

Florian

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 34585] frame with no-fill background has white background

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--- Comment #4 from Florian Reisinger reisi...@gmail.com 2012-08-14 14:03:11 
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Dear bug submitter!

Due to the fact, that there are a lot of NEEDINFO bugs with no answer within
the last six months, we close all of these bugs.

To keep this message short, more infos are available @
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/NeedinfoClosure#Statement

Thanks for understanding and hopefully updating your bug, so that everything is
prepared for developers to fix your problem.

Yours!

Florian

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 34585] frame with no-fill background has white background

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--- Comment #5 from Florian Reisinger reisi...@gmail.com 2012-08-14 14:07:45 
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Dear bug submitter!

Due to the fact, that there are a lot of NEEDINFO bugs with no answer within
the last six months, we close all of these bugs.

To keep this message short, more infos are available @
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/NeedinfoClosure#Statement

Thanks for understanding and hopefully updating your bug, so that everything is
prepared for developers to fix your problem.

Yours!

Florian

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