[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #165 from Cougar Brenneman --- After seeing a couple of comments by garethsljo...@gmail.com, I was thrilled that the possibility existed that an outliner view had been added. So I upgraded to LibreOffice_7.5.3_Win, only to be completely disappointed. I will clearly have to keep using Microsoft Word until the day I die, probably. I'm so disappointed. There are a lot of nice improvements. But as a writer, I depend on outline view, and if I don't have it in LibreOffice, I can't use LibreOffice. It is absolutely a requirement for my method of work, and that has been the case since before Word was even a gleam in Microsoft's eye — in other words, in the 1980s. The outliner I was using prior to Microsoft Word was so useful that I would never have moved to Microsoft Word without it. Sorry, but I can't use your product. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #164 from garet...@exemail.com.au --- Addendum to Comment 163 I am using version 6.4.7.2 . I jsut noticed the note re version 7.2. If code folding has been added there then please ignore this. Cheers! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 garet...@exemail.com.au changed: What|Removed |Added Status|CLOSED |UNCONFIRMED Resolution|FIXED |--- Ever confirmed|1 |0 --- Comment #163 from garet...@exemail.com.au --- # me-too As I write this, on the right hand side there is an option to 'Collapse All Comments' & to 'Expand All Comments' That alone demonstrates the value of Outlining/code folding: if it's so useful here, how is it not useful in our personal docs? I am using LO to write technical notes, migrating from the great but limited Kate. Several of Kate's scripting templates (eg 'python') have code folding. It is of inestimable value. The points about using Navigator are cogent, but it is just not the same. Outlining hugely improves navigation /within/ the doc. That works the way our minds do, providing memory cues as to the information within. It reduces the redundancy of swapping from keyboard to mouse. It keeps focus where it belongs: on the document. It reduces the partitioning of screen space. The amount of people requesting this, for well over a decade, the fact that it just refuses to go away, should be motivation enough. It is a large & valuable leap in utility. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #162 from Heiko Tietze --- *** Bug 47746 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 V Stuart Foote changed: What|Removed |Added See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14 ||6667 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 Jean-Baptiste Faure changed: What|Removed |Added CC||susancra...@earthlink.net --- Comment #161 from Jean-Baptiste Faure --- *** Bug 54772 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #160 from Commit Notification --- Jim Raykowski committed a patch related to this issue. It has been pushed to "master": https://git.libreoffice.org/core/commit/c405bae468d887ec77dd3830b7678fcedc2debfd tdf#138136 tdf#38093 add option to treat sub outline levels as content It will be available in 7.2.0. The patch should be included in the daily builds available at https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More information about daily builds can be found at: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 Commit Notification changed: What|Removed |Added Whiteboard|target:7.1.0|target:7.1.0 target:7.2.0 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 Mike Kaganski changed: What|Removed |Added See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54 ||772 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 Timur changed: What|Removed |Added See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13 ||6435 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 Thomas Lendo changed: What|Removed |Added Blocks|117913 | Referenced Bugs: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=117913 [Bug 117913] [META] Canvas view bugs and enhancements -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #159 from Mike Kaganski --- (In reply to Cougar Brenneman from comment #158) > I was responding to a direct request for user feedback from Jim Raykowski in > comment #150 Comment 150 was just an automatically generated notification about a commit. Then immediately, in comments 151 and 152, we discussed where to continue all feedback. Please respect the rules of the resource you use. > Do you want feedback from users? Then don't criticize me if I don't > understand where to post and why. I not "criticized", I pointed to how to do that properly. Or do you mean "Do you want feedback from users? Then don't expect them following any advises, even if you give them for the benefit of their feedback become heard"? > Now, finally, the open source community has gotten a little closer to what I > need than has been in 20 years. Where do I post that? In a new bug report just here, pressing the link "New" at the top of the page. Then write your feedback there in the new report, and then put "Writer-Outline-View" into "Blocks:" field in the filed bug, as described in comment 157. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #158 from Cougar Brenneman --- (In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #157) > (In reply to Cougar Brenneman from comment #156) > > Cougar, all: please *don't* post to this CLOSED issue. Any follow-up issue > concerning ouline must be filed as a *new* separate issue, and when you file > that new issue, put "Writer-Outline-View" into "Blocks:" field in the filed > bug. Thank you! I've been talking about this issue with LibreOffice for ten years, and when Jim Raykowski committed 7.1.0, he specifically asked for user comments. Almost twenty years ago, I posted about why I could never use OpenOffice, and now, for the first time in ten years, LibreOffice has finally made progress towards making an open-source word processor useful to me. But LibreOffice is still not useful to me, except as a last resort. As far as I know, this is the only place to go to ask for what I, as a writer and user, need. I'm right now studying Github on Pluralsight, but really, I'm not a developer, I'm an end user. I was responding to a direct request for user feedback from Jim Raykowski in comment #150, because this is the first progress that I've seen in ten years toward what I've needed as a writer to use the product. My feedback is important as a user, and because I don't understand all of the intricacies of using Git systems. I don't like to be in a position of always complaining, so when I say this FIRST progress towards since I began watching the OpenOffice/LibreOffice development process in 2001, I wanted to try it out immediately and give immediate feedback. When working as a technical writer for Fujitsu Software in San Jose in the 1990s, I would writer everything in MS Word before importing it all into Framemaker for publication, and the only reason for doing so was the outliner. So I can tell you that what I need is what I need. Do you want feedback from users? Then don't criticize me if I don't understand where to post and why. Now, finally, the open source community has gotten a little closer to what I need than has been in 20 years. Where do I post that? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #157 from Mike Kaganski --- (In reply to Cougar Brenneman from comment #156) Cougar, all: please *don't* post to this CLOSED issue. Any follow-up issue concerning ouline must be filed as a *new* separate issue, and when you file that new issue, put "Writer-Outline-View" into "Blocks:" field in the filed bug. Thank you! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #156 from Cougar Brenneman --- 7.1.0. is actually quite good for what it does. I tried putting three headings at different levels, and while there is no drag and drop capabilities, the ability to use the arrows in the navigator to move different headers -- and their children and grandchildren begins to demonstrate some of what I want. Let me explain one use case that this build doesn't support at this time. First, I can't move text using the navigator without moving the title which contains it. When I'm preparing a document, I often brainstorm many different paragraphs of text, and then in Word's Outliner, I drag them and drop them in different headings. Your text lines are absolutely married to the headings that they are under. Thus, the only way I could move individual text paragraphs is to give each one a heading, move them into their proper categories, and then delete the headings — which were only there to facilitate the use of the buttons in the navigator to move them into their proper locations. For me as a writer, this is not flexible enough and it is quite inconvenient. It should be possible to move individual paragraphs without giving them a title, first. Second, in an earlier post by one of the developers here (maybe two months ago?), there was a discussion of putting little bullets or icons in front of paragraphs when you click them, and I believe that it was possible to use those icons to drag the paragraphs separately. If someone developed this capability, it should be merged into the trunk for a future build. If you can do that, then you'll have a lot more of what I need. Sorry, I'm a COVID survivor and while I was sick, it compromised my memory. I'm not sure exactly when I read that in this discussion. My mental abilities seem to be back, but not my physical capabilities. I'm still feeble. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #155 from Cougar Brenneman --- 7.1.0. is actually quite good for what it does. I tried putting three headings at different levels, and while there is no drag and drop capabilities, the ability to use the arrows in the navigator to move different headers -- and their children and grandchildren begins to demonstrate some of what I want. Let me explain one use case that this build doesn't support at this time. First, I can't move text using the navigator without moving the title which contains it. When I'm preparing a document, I often brainstorm many different paragraphs of text, and then in Word's Outliner, I drag them and drop them in different headings. Your text lines are absolutely married to the headings that they are under. Thus, the only way I could move individual text paragraphs is to give each one a heading, move them into their proper categories, and then delete the headings — which were only there to facilitate the use of the buttons in the navigator to move them into their proper locations. For me as a writer, this is not flexible enough and it is quite inconvenient. It should be possible to move individual paragraphs without giving them a title, first. Second, in an earlier post by one of the developers here (maybe two months ago?), there was a discussion of putting little bullets or icons in front of paragraphs when you click them, and I believe that it was possible to use those icons to drag the paragraphs separately. If someone developed this capability, it should be merged into the trunk for a future build. If you can do that, then you'll have a lot more of what I need. Sorry, I'm a COVID survivor and while I was sick, it compromised my memory. I'm not sure exactly when I read that in this discussion. My mental abilities seem to be back, but not my physical capabilities. I'm still feeble. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 Dieter changed: What|Removed |Added Blocks||135310 Referenced Bugs: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135310 [Bug 135310] [META] Writer outline view bugs and enhancements -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 Dieter changed: What|Removed |Added Alias|Writer-Outline-View | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #154 from Dieter --- Created Meta bug 135310. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 Heiko Tietze changed: What|Removed |Added Status|RESOLVED|CLOSED -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 Heiko Tietze changed: What|Removed |Added Resolution|--- |FIXED Status|NEW |RESOLVED --- Comment #153 from Heiko Tietze --- Awesome work, Jim! Let's resolve this ticket and close the honeypot. All follow-up go ideally into single tickets. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #152 from Mike Kaganski --- (In reply to Dieter from comment #151) > or would it be better to > open separate reports and collect them in a meta bug? This. Thank you for review and constructive feedback! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #151 from Dieter --- (In reply to Commit Notification from comment #150) > Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback. Jim, thanks for your great work! Shall we report feedback (I assume, Feedback could be very different) under this bug or would it be better to open separate reports and collect them in a meta bug? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 Mike Kaganski changed: What|Removed |Added See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13 ||5307 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #150 from Commit Notification --- Jim Raykowski committed a patch related to this issue. It has been pushed to "master": https://git.libreoffice.org/core/commit/1c080b887c1ef28cb2e98173d0121bcae3167075 tdf#38093 Writer outline folding - persistence It will be available in 7.1.0. The patch should be included in the daily builds available at https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More information about daily builds can be found at: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #148 from Commit Notification --- Jim Raykowski committed a patch related to this issue. It has been pushed to "master": https://git.libreoffice.org/core/commit/12ff89af74cd12375436b67b85674a4a2064ef8d tdf#38093 Writer outline folding - .uno:ToggleOutlineContentVisibility It will be available in 7.1.0. The patch should be included in the daily builds available at https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More information about daily builds can be found at: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #149 from Commit Notification --- Jim Raykowski committed a patch related to this issue. It has been pushed to "master": https://git.libreoffice.org/core/commit/dce97e84f2bb748e4403841593bb7b0b92ea44c4 tdf#38093 Writer outline folding - Navigator UI It will be available in 7.1.0. The patch should be included in the daily builds available at https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More information about daily builds can be found at: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #147 from Commit Notification --- Jim Raykowski committed a patch related to this issue. It has been pushed to "master": https://git.libreoffice.org/core/commit/5ab17ad2696aeb8acfc21cd2442908b785a53e86 tdf#38093 Writer outline folding - ctrl + click toggle visibility It will be available in 7.1.0. The patch should be included in the daily builds available at https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More information about daily builds can be found at: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #146 from Commit Notification --- Jim Raykowski committed a patch related to this issue. It has been pushed to "master": https://git.libreoffice.org/core/commit/835cd06a047717dfe5e0f117959f3c042e13b21b tdf#38093 Writer outline folding - outline visibility and on canvas ui It will be available in 7.1.0. The patch should be included in the daily builds available at https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More information about daily builds can be found at: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #145 from Commit Notification --- Jim Raykowski committed a patch related to this issue. It has been pushed to "master": https://git.libreoffice.org/core/commit/b2686de46250d0c8d14365a2af8428387baa0c24 tdf#38093 Writer outline folding - feature sensitivity It will be available in 7.1.0. The patch should be included in the daily builds available at https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More information about daily builds can be found at: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 Commit Notification changed: What|Removed |Added Whiteboard||target:7.1.0 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #144 from Heiko Tietze --- (In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #142) > I still believe that making the outline mode in normal view is a wrong > thing... Worth to discuss in a follow-up ticket, in my opinion. There are pros and cons, as always. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #143 from Bernhard Rohrer --- (In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #142) > I still believe that making the outline mode in normal view is a wrong thing > to do. Having things like headers/footers with possible page numbers and/or > chapter names would interfere with the mode; having the pages indicator in > to status line ... It would result in much confusion. The page numbering > problem was already raised in comment 51 and comment 52. > > E.g. Word shows its outline in something like our "web" view. I fully agree -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #142 from Mike Kaganski --- I still believe that making the outline mode in normal view is a wrong thing to do. Having things like headers/footers with possible page numbers and/or chapter names would interfere with the mode; having the pages indicator in to status line ... It would result in much confusion. The page numbering problem was already raised in comment 51 and comment 52. E.g. Word shows its outline in something like our "web" view. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #141 from Jim Raykowski --- Created attachment 163540 --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=163540=edit outline folding with persistence Persistence seems to be working. This is my first time poking around xmloff export and import. It would be super great to have this looked over by a kind dev with experience in this area. Persistence addition was the only changes in patchset 21. loext:outline-content-visible is the tag used to indicate outline content was folded. Below is a cut out of a content.xml office:body tag that shows Heading 2 and Heading 4 outline content was folded when the document was saved. ... Heading 1 A paragraph under Heading 1 Heading 2 A paragraph under Heading 2 Heading 3 A paragraph under Heading 3 Heading 4 A paragraph under Heading 4 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #140 from Jim Raykowski --- (In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #139) > E.g. see https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/96033 (a search for > "experimental" on gerrit gives many other matches). Thanks Mike, I've added code to make the feature experimental mode only. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #139 from Mike Kaganski --- (In reply to Jim Raykowski from comment #138) > I could probably figure out how to make this an experimental feature as > Dieter has suggested if it needs to be moved to that. E.g. see https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/96033 (a search for "experimental" on gerrit gives many other matches). -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 Jim Raykowski changed: What|Removed |Added Attachment #160837|0 |1 is obsolete|| Attachment #160918|0 |1 is obsolete|| Attachment #161788|0 |1 is obsolete|| Attachment #162071|0 |1 is obsolete|| Attachment #163341|0 |1 is obsolete|| --- Comment #138 from Jim Raykowski --- Created attachment 163434 --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=163434=edit outline content folding Back on track after read-only mode derail. Hacked around promote/demote issue and certain key inputs that cause bad things to happen. https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/96672 I'm fairly confident of this version not falling completely on it's face so may be a good one to start user testing involvement. I could probably figure out how to make this an experimental feature as Dieter has suggested if it needs to be moved to that. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 Mike Kaganski changed: What|Removed |Added CC||fberto...@tiscali.it --- Comment #137 from Mike Kaganski --- *** Bug 131878 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 Mike Kaganski changed: What|Removed |Added CC||florianbecker1...@web.de --- Comment #136 from Mike Kaganski --- *** Bug 96229 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #134 from Mike Kaganski --- *** Bug 70862 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 Mike Kaganski changed: What|Removed |Added CC||mbilliode...@gmail.com --- Comment #135 from Mike Kaganski --- *** Bug 63352 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #133 from Cougar Brenneman --- There's a lot of editing that I like to do in outline view in Word and in WPS Office, when I was using that. However, during the process of demoting or promoting content, you should be able to lock the content at the moment you try to demote or promote by making it temporarily read-only during the process. In both Word and WPS Office, it appeared to me as a user that this was how it worked, whether using keyboard commands or when you click the button to drag and drop the content at a new level. If selecting a heading for demotion/promotion automatically also selects the entire tree below that heading, read-only during drag, and releasing it to be edited after it is dropped at its new level (or at its new location), those would prevent the content from being corrupted while it was being moved. (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #130) > (In reply to Jim Raykowski from comment #129) > > Making outline mode a read-only feature avoids these problems. > > Doesn't this solution cripples the functionality too much? Use case is to > temporarily hide (meaning collapse) distracting chapters and continue > writing. Read-only makes it a just browse-through-document thing. I would > rather accept the shortcomings and file a ticket so it can be solved later. > For example by making just the collapsed section read-only (probably not so > easy). > > So my take: Commit Early, Push Often. And involve the users in the > iterations (38 people on CC of that many never build from source but might > try the nightlies). -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #132 from j.a.sw...@gmail.com --- (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #130) > > So my take: Commit Early, Push Often. And involve the users in the > iterations (38 people on CC of that many never build from source but might > try the nightlies). Yes! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #131 from Dieter --- (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #130) > So my take: Commit Early, Push Often. And involve the users in the > iterations (38 people on CC of that many never build from source but might > try the nightlies). I agree. Perhaps it is useful to make it an experimental feature first? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #130 from Heiko Tietze --- (In reply to Jim Raykowski from comment #129) > Making outline mode a read-only feature avoids these problems. Doesn't this solution cripples the functionality too much? Use case is to temporarily hide (meaning collapse) distracting chapters and continue writing. Read-only makes it a just browse-through-document thing. I would rather accept the shortcomings and file a ticket so it can be solved later. For example by making just the collapsed section read-only (probably not so easy). So my take: Commit Early, Push Often. And involve the users in the iterations (38 people on CC of that many never build from source but might try the nightlies). -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 Jim Raykowski changed: What|Removed |Added Attachment #161108|0 |1 is obsolete|| Attachment #161178|0 |1 is obsolete|| Attachment #161179|0 |1 is obsolete|| Attachment #161446|0 |1 is obsolete|| Attachment #161556|0 |1 is obsolete|| Attachment #161602|0 |1 is obsolete|| Attachment #161972|0 |1 is obsolete|| Attachment #161999|0 |1 is obsolete|| Attachment #162002|0 |1 is obsolete|| --- Comment #129 from Jim Raykowski --- Created attachment 163341 --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=163341=edit outline mode read-only mode approach Hello All, It has been interesting exploring the document model/view code and many other UI code areas involved in this enhancement. I ran into problems with promoting/demoting folded chapters, and cases that add content to folded outline content. Making outline mode a read-only feature avoids these problems. Shown in the demo is use of the .uno:OutlineMode command function in toolbar button form. It can be added to any toolbar or menu and can be assigned a keyboard shortcut. Folded outline content is shown when either edit mode is activated or outline mode is toggled off. Returning to outline mode will fold the outline content previously folded. I have only had success on how to export/save the attribute used to indicate folded outline content state. WIP on importing. This means no persistence of outlines folded when document is closed and reopened. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #128 from Jim Raykowski --- (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #127) > (In reply to Jim Raykowski from comment #125) > > > First, if a chapter has no content folding is not possible. But I guess > > > something like "1. 1.1 " is common and > > > users > > > would like to fold the complete chapter. > > > > Nothing coming to me right off the top of my head for handling this case... > > ... > > Navigator heading context menu for outlines with folded content can be used > > to show the content. Provision for this case is added in Patchset 5 which can be found here: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/96672/5 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #127 from Heiko Tietze --- (In reply to Jim Raykowski from comment #125) > > First, if a chapter has no content folding is not possible. But I guess > > something like "1. 1.1 " is common and users > > would like to fold the complete chapter. > > Nothing coming to me right off the top of my head for handling this case... > ... > Navigator heading context menu for outlines with folded content can be used > to show the content. Also the UNO .uno:togglecontentvisiblity can be used. That's okay, and I wouldn't play with the delay. Point is, we do not have a quick way of folding as known from XML editors or IDEs. It always takes half a second or some clicks. But let's wait for user input about this. > Assuming you are using the delete key to delete the paragraph, an assert is > failing. Going into the folded chapter via key or deleting the content with delete/backspace throws the assertion, yes. Looking forward to review the final patch (have seen also the improvements regarding positioning, icon, behavior - great work!). -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #126 from Jim Raykowski --- (In reply to Jim Raykowski from comment #125) > Assuming you are using the delete key to delete the paragraph, an assert is > failing. > I meant Backspace key -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #125 from Jim Raykowski --- (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #124) > Tested https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/96672 and found a few more > "issues". > > First, if a chapter has no content folding is not possible. But I guess > something like "1. 1.1 " is common and users > would like to fold the complete chapter. Nothing coming to me right off the top of my head for handling this case using the canvas buttons interface, but sub menu items in the Navigator headings context menu 'Outline Content Visibility' can be used to do this. >Please check what happens when you > delete the single paragraph after the folded chapter. For example 1.Foo /n > Test /n 1.1.Bar /n Lorem ipsum. When I delete the paragraph break after Foo > in folded state the application crashes. > Assuming you are using the delete key to delete the paragraph, an assert is failing. core/sw/source/core/text/txtfrm.cxx:1249: TextFrameIndex SwTextFrame::MapModelToView(const SwTextNode*, sal_Int32) const: Assertion `static_cast(const_cast(SwFrame::GetDep())) == pNode' failed. This also happens when left or right arrows are used to move past folded content. Initially I removed the assert as I could see no ill affects by doing so but have been advised to not remove it. I think with a non debug build this does not happen. This is something that requires higher knowledge of what badness may occur. > That brings me to the second point: I miss key handling or some key+mouse > interaction (not least since the delay is a bit long for my taste). How > about toggle all on ctrl+click at the heading text and not only at the > button? Alternatively an interaction at the Navigator might be also good. > How about making the delay half of what it is now before collapse button is shown? Collapse button grabs focus on display so you should be able to use the Space key to fold content or the Enter key to fold content including and sub levels initially after it is shown. So the code from the ctrl+click patch to do visibility toggle when mouse pointer is clicked on outline heading should be added? > And less of a taste thing, if you disable the "Show outline visibility" > option while a chapter is folded there is no way to get it back. The unfold > icon/button must not be hidden by the function. Navigator heading context menu for outlines with folded content can be used to show the content. Also the UNO .uno:togglecontentvisiblity can be used. Perhaps if the 'Show outline visibility button' option is switched off all currently folded outline content should be shown? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #124 from Heiko Tietze --- Tested https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/96672 and found a few more "issues". First, if a chapter has no content folding is not possible. But I guess something like "1. 1.1 " is common and users would like to fold the complete chapter. Please check what happens when you delete the single paragraph after the folded chapter. For example 1.Foo /n Test /n 1.1.Bar /n Lorem ipsum. When I delete the paragraph break after Foo in folded state the application crashes. That brings me to the second point: I miss key handling or some key+mouse interaction (not least since the delay is a bit long for my taste). How about toggle all on ctrl+click at the heading text and not only at the button? Alternatively an interaction at the Navigator might be also good. And less of a taste thing, if you disable the "Show outline visibility" option while a chapter is folded there is no way to get it back. The unfold icon/button must not be hidden by the function. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #123 from Jim Raykowski --- https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/96672 is a patch that combines the UNO command, Navigator interface, and on canvas patches. It includes effort to resolve the icon is not placed at the center of the heading plus a some other improvements concerning the canvas buttons portion of the patch which are detailed in my patch set 2 comment here https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/96486 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #122 from Dieter --- (In reply to Jérôme from comment #121) > This option should be off by default IMO. However, maybe it could be > available into the "View" menu, beside the "normal" and "web" modes. I agree -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #121 from Jérôme --- This option should be off by default IMO. However, maybe it could be available into the "View" menu, beside the "normal" and "web" modes. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #120 from Heiko Tietze --- (In reply to Jim Raykowski from comment #119) > (In reply to andreas_k from comment #118) > > how can I test it? Great work. > > https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/96486 Works like a charm. Nitpicking: the icon is not placed at the center of the heading. Depending on the font size it is below or above the text which looks a bit unpolished. Objects such as images are hidden in the Navigator when the outline is collapsed. Makes sense to not let the user double click on it but it's not perfectly consistent as disabled means no content. But would keep this. And we have to discuss whether the new option should be on by default (currently it's off, +1 from my side). -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #119 from Jim Raykowski --- (In reply to andreas_k from comment #118) > how can I test it? Great work. https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/96486 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #118 from andreas_k --- how can I test it? Great work. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #117 from Jérôme --- @Jim comment #116 Wunderbar. Great job. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #116 from Jim Raykowski --- Created attachment 162071 --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=162071=edit demo of only folded buttons always show approach Demo of "Only show unfold/expand buttons always". -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #115 from Mike Kaganski --- I agree that it is reasonable to always show the Expand icon/button for collapsed parts. But then what means "always"? I suppose that in that case, either that button must be shown even when the "Show outline content visibility button" is disabled in Options, or the said setting should not only control the button visibility, but also turn off the collapsed state (so should be more like "enable/disable outline function", with effect on other means to expand/collapse, like using Navigator and keyboard shortcuts). Without that, we still have situation that there's a collapsed section without a visual clue. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #114 from Heiko Tietze --- (In reply to andreas_k from comment #113) > I would prefer to show only the icons and not the button... Sure, but I'm talking about button+icon and to have a plain, conventional layout even when the option is on. You get this by not showing the collapse button+icon unless you hover over the outline. In case of collapsed section we have to always show the plus button+icon to give a feedback of hidden content. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #113 from andreas_k --- (In reply to Jim Raykowski from comment #101) > Created attachment 161972 [details] > demo using icon themes for button image In general from visual design I would prefer to show only the icons and not the button. Than it's visual not that disturbing but with the icon easy to select. Like you know the + from text editors like notepadd++, sublime, kate, ... -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #112 from andreas_k --- (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #111) > > How about showing only the minus always but the plus on hover? good idea. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #111 from Heiko Tietze --- (In reply to Jim Raykowski from comment #108) > Here is an approach change from mouse hover over to show button to buttons > always shown. How about showing only the minus always but the plus on hover? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #110 from Jim Raykowski --- (In reply to Jim Raykowski from comment #108) > Created attachment 161999 [details] > buttons always shown approach > > Here is an approach change from mouse hover over to show button to buttons > always shown. https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/96310 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #109 from Jim Raykowski --- Created attachment 162002 --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=162002=edit arrow icons (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #104) > (I don't like the plus/minus icons and would prefer special carets ">" and > "v"). Sukapura theme uses these kind of icons. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #108 from Jim Raykowski --- Created attachment 161999 --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=161999=edit buttons always shown approach Here is an approach change from mouse hover over to show button to buttons always shown. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #107 from Heiko Tietze --- (In reply to Jérôme from comment #106) > Because the user doesn't know that there is a hidden content... Got it. And you are right, in case of collapsed outlines the icon must be permanently visible. Only for expanded/normal outlines it shows up on hoover (and that's what I had in mind). -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #106 from Jérôme --- In reply to comment #104 : > (In reply to Jérôme from comment #103) > > Is there a way to make the +/- always visible when using this feature , > > without the need of hovering ? > > Why? Because the user doesn't know that there is a hidden content if the "+" doesn't appears while reading the document. He/she could type again what he/she already wrote. It could provide a bad user experience. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #105 from andreas_k --- yes push it. tiny improvements can be added afterwards. Look good to me. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #104 from Heiko Tietze --- (In reply to Jérôme from comment #103) > Is there a way to make the +/- always visible when using this feature , > without the need of hovering ? Why? It's intentionally designed in this way to be an unobtrusive feature. We shouldn't make it brew coffee on top :-). My take: Push it, and make the 7 shine. (I don't like the plus/minus icons and would prefer special carets ">" and "v"). -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #103 from Jérôme --- Is there a way to make the +/- always visible when using this feature , without the need of hovering ? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #102 from Jim Raykowski --- Forgot to mention the video also shows that Space and Enter keys can be used to toggle. Space toggles content not including sub levels. Enter toggles content including sub levels. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #101 from Jim Raykowski --- Created attachment 161972 --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=161972=edit demo using icon themes for button image Here is a demo using andreas_k's idea to use the icon themes. Plus and Minus icons are used in this demo. I switched the defines for the demo. Seems all the icon-themes links.txt files have these reversed. sw/inc/bitmaps.hlst #define RID_BMP_COLLAPSE"res/sx18002.png" #define RID_BMP_EXPAND "res/sx18003.png" -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #100 from Mike Kaganski --- (In reply to andreas_k from comment #98) > About the +/- symbol can it be an icon from the icon theme? cause than the > icon designers can modify them depend on the icon theme. would be great. you > can also choose an icon name if you don't find an well fitting icon and we > will do the icon's for the different icon themes. This is completely unrelated. This might be reasonable, but should be handled independently, so that all cases of such pop-ups (e.g., in header/footer popups) are made using some themed images etc. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #99 from andreas_k --- Created attachment 161788 --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=161788=edit right click menu in the navigator. I'm new at that feature request and didn't read all the 99 commands. Would it be possible to have an right click menu. I for example use the navigator often for select an specific header section like it's possible in the sidbar navigator. You can use the context menu from the Navigator so you only have to offer the right click menu. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 andreas_k changed: What|Removed |Added CC||kain...@gmail.com --- Comment #98 from andreas_k --- (In reply to Jim Raykowski from comment #96) > Created attachment 161602 [details] > Options dialog option to show button > > Removed option to show button from Menu > Tools and added to Options dialog. That's fine there. About the +/- symbol can it be an icon from the icon theme? cause than the icon designers can modify them depend on the icon theme. would be great. you can also choose an icon name if you don't find an well fitting icon and we will do the icon's for the different icon themes. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #97 from Heiko Tietze --- (In reply to Jim Raykowski from comment #96) > Removed option to show button from Menu > Tools and added to Options dialog. So users can expand/collapse outlines per context menu at the headings (where also the shortcut is shown), the Navigator, and via shortcut. If the option is switched on, we also show a button to click on. And last but not least all is customizable. Sounds like a perfect solution to me. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #96 from Jim Raykowski --- Created attachment 161602 --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=161602=edit Options dialog option to show button Removed option to show button from Menu > Tools and added to Options dialog. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #95 from Jérôme --- When looking at the demo provided by comment #92, the option "show outline content visibility" is great. Why the +/- toggle button isn't always visible when this option is enabled ? If it would be always visible when this option is enabled then it would immediately inform the user that there is a hidden content in case of "+" label. In case it isn't show by default without hovering, how the user knows there is a hidden content when reading the document at a glance ? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #94 from Dieter --- (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #93) > Providing UNO commands for customization is always a good idea. However, > this entry does not fit under Tools (neither I would place it anywhere else > by default). My first idea regarding an option was to have a checkbox at > Tools > Options. I would expect that option in view menu. That's logical for me and you have an easier access to that command than in Tools = Option => ... > > If we want to bring this patch as a last minute feature into 7.0 we should > hurry up. Sorry for the additional work, if you agree. Would be great! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #93 from Heiko Tietze --- Providing UNO commands for customization is always a good idea. However, this entry does not fit under Tools (neither I would place it anywhere else by default). My first idea regarding an option was to have a checkbox at Tools > Options. If we want to bring this patch as a last minute feature into 7.0 we should hurry up. Sorry for the additional work, if you agree. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #92 from Jim Raykowski --- Created attachment 161556 --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=161556=edit Tooltip and supress option additions Thanks Mike, a tooltip has been added. Also an option to enable/disable the button has been accomplished by following Heiko's patch tdf#118621. Perhaps there is a better description for this than what I have come up with 'Show outline content visibility button' https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/94745/7 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #91 from Mike Kaganski --- (In reply to Jim Raykowski from comment #90) That's brilliant! I suppose that having a tooltip mentioning the changed opeartion with right-click (like format paintbrush has) could make that discoverable. Personally I would prefer (a) the button cliser to the text (as in comment 85), and (b) usung key like ctrl or shift or alt to change the operation to include subs. The common meaning of ctrl+something (likewise alt+something, etc) is to modify the action; the common meaning of right button is to bring context menu. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #90 from Jim Raykowski --- Link to code for plus minus button single click approach with right mouse click to toggle including subs: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/94745/5 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #89 from Jim Raykowski --- Created attachment 161446 --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=161446=edit Plus Minus button single click demo Here is another go at the button appearing when mouse is held over heading approach. This version shows a '+' or '-' button which only requires one click to toggle outline content visibility. As the code stands now, content visibility for sub headings is not toggled when upper level heading content visibility is toggled. Perhaps right mouse click on the button or left mouse click with held mod key could be used to toggle including subs. An option to suppress the popup noted but not yet implemented. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #88 from Heiko Tietze --- (In reply to Jim Raykowski) > Here is an out of the way button that may be too out of the way. A bit but not too much, IMHO (better than other solutions, worse than a symbol left-attached to the outline). As Jérôme commented, the two clicks (plus time to wait for the popup) are bad. It's acceptable as indicator for shift/ctrl+click but not really usable. So either you respond on click at the blue button itself, dropping the "only this level" option, or keep it as it is with the idea of a clue for the supposed interaction. Shorter labels would be good, perhaps "Hide", "Hide all" and Show if hidden. MSO has no tooltip and toggle always all nodes. We definitely need an option to suppress the popup (see also bug 118621). -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #87 from Jérôme --- I saw the videos from the comments 84 and 85. From user point of view, it would be painful if I have to wait for the control to appear after pointing the mouse over the title. What about implementing a button which is always displayed besides the title (when using a specific mode) ? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #86 from Jim Raykowski --- Here is a gerrit link to the code that does the menu button shown in the demo videos in the previous two comments: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/94745 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #85 from Jim Raykowski --- Created attachment 161179 --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=161179=edit Toggle button in the margin less out of the way demo of button in margin less out of the way. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #84 from Jim Raykowski --- Created attachment 161178 --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=161178=edit Toggle button in the margin way out of the way Here is an out of the way button that may be too out of the way. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #83 from Dieter --- (In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #82) > Using ctrl+click solution plus context menu would be very awkward. I suppose > that having an "outline mode" - some button toggling a *dedicated toolbar > with the functions*, and in the same time *activating the popups for the > time of the mode*, would possibly be a better option for discoverability and > usability. I agree. Outline mode option within the view-menu is something, I would expect. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #82 from Mike Kaganski --- (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #81) > Afraid this will be annoying in the average workflow. It's a large dialog > always in the way like MSO's mini toolbars for formatting (see bug 87040). > Either the indicator is out of sight (left margin of the outline) or we just > go with the simple ctrl+click solution plus context menu. Using ctrl+click solution plus context menu would be very awkward. I suppose that having an "outline mode" - some button toggling a *dedicated toolbar with the functions*, and in the same time *activating the popups for the time of the mode*, would possibly be a better option for discoverability and usability. Additionally, popping up in a different place could be an option: e.g., to the left of the paragraph; using only small icons like "+"/"-" and a drop-down for more options would make the toolbar small enough to fit to left? What is "left margin of the outline"? any mockup? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #81 from Heiko Tietze --- (In reply to Jim Raykowski from comment #80) > Great tip to look at how the frame controls work, thanks Mike. Attached is a > demo of a first stab at doing this from the canvas. Afraid this will be annoying in the average workflow. It's a large dialog always in the way like MSO's mini toolbars for formatting (see bug 87040). Either the indicator is out of sight (left margin of the outline) or we just go with the simple ctrl+click solution plus context menu. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #80 from Jim Raykowski --- Created attachment 161108 --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=161108=edit hover over outline heading in document demo Great tip to look at how the frame controls work, thanks Mike. Attached is a demo of a first stab at doing this from the canvas. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #79 from Mike Kaganski --- (In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #78) > So what thoughts for toggling visibility/enabling on-canvas outline markings > as done with the +F8 Field shadings, or the +F10 Non-printing > Characters formatting? I meant that we might not need the controls on canvas - a blue toolbar with controls may popup on hovering over the headings. That makes the functionality easier for use than just key+mouse button. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #78 from V Stuart Foote --- Thanks Jim! As implemented thus far, would have no visual indicator added to canvas, meaning the Navigator would have to remain expanded, or be undocked. And of course it forces the use of mouse+keyboard--which is not too much of an issue since keyboard only navigation get more difficult/less efficient with larger Writer documents. Are we going to bump into other os/DE use of the +lmouse, +rmouse? Of course os/DE focus would explicitly be into the LibreOffice module--so maybe a non-issue. Bounce it off the dev list? (In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #76) > > Think about the popup controls for page breaks and headers/footers (that > appear when you hover over relevant parts of document); a toggle to > enable/disable popup of similar controls for outline operations could be > useful (because people could want to not have them always popping up). So what thoughts for toggling visibility/enabling on-canvas outline markings as done with the +F8 Field shadings, or the +F10 Non-printing Characters formatting? > > And collapsed state of a part should have a sticky indication... Yes, for sure. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #77 from Jim Raykowski --- Here is the gerrit link that does the mouse click outline folding discussed in comment 75 https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/94377 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 38093] Add an Outline View layout and editing mode to Writer
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093 --- Comment #76 from Mike Kaganski --- (In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #74) > If we can't get the controls onto document canvas Think about the popup controls for page breaks and headers/footers (that appear when you hover over relevant parts of document); a toggle to enable/disable popup of similar controls for outline operations could be useful (because people could want to not have them always popping up). And collapsed state of a part should have a sticky indication... -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
