[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 40227] Create new files from the command line

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--- Comment #22 from Mike Kaganski  ---
... and that has the additional benefit over comment 5, that it (1) doesn't
need to create intrusive UI (many people dislike questions on opening); (2)
doesn't get in the way of command-line processing of existing documents (when a
wrong filename would silently open something empty). One can always create a
dedicated 'create_document' shell script that takes an argument, touches the
file and opens LibreOffice with the file, to have exactly the wanted
functionality.

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--- Comment #21 from Mike Kaganski  ---
(In reply to Michael Meeks from comment #20)
> we now should tolerate zero-byte
> files and infer the type from the extension, so you can have a shell wrapper
> that checks if it's not there, and touches it for you if you like. HTH.

I would say, that fixed bug 123476 and bug 139991 together solve this
perfectly, in line with the Unix philosophy: you don't need any new switches /
command line arguments for LibreOffice to allow all uses listed here.

Basically a one-liner:

> touch ./myNewFileName.odt && soffice ./myNewFileName.odt

which solves both comment 0 (any third-party application can do that), as well
as comment 10.

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--- Comment #20 from Michael Meeks  ---
I miss it; but not enough to implement it. Luckily - we now should tolerate
zero-byte files and infer the type from the extension, so you can have a shell
wrapper that checks if it's not there, and touches it for you if you like. HTH.

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--- Comment #19 from Nadav Har'El  ---
In the decade (!) that this issue has been open, it had 14 people registering
on it and 5 duplicates. It would have been nice if someone with knowledge of
the relevant code finally fix it. My sad conclusion from this issue not having
been fixed long ago (and getting only 5 duplicates) is that probably very few
people still use the command line as much as I do. Because nobody can use the
command line to run libreoffice without noticing that this feature is missing
:-(

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*** Bug 117363 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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--- Comment #17 from fr...@gmx.fr ---
I would also appreciate this feature very much.

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--- Comment #16 from Nuno J. Silva  ---
I'm afraid that function won't be convenient when filename.csv already exists
in the current directory and has important information. You probably want to
use a file under /tmp, for example, using mktemp to generate the temporary
filename. I'd not be surprised if libreoffice required files to have
extensions, so you'll probably have to use the --extension option of GNU mktemp
(coreutils >=8.2) or something equivalent.

Of course, it would be simpler if libreoffice could be more compatible with
this kind of workflow...

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--- Comment #15 from Boris Kheyfets  ---
Here's a bash function to create empty spreadsheet:

function lo-create-spreadsheet () {
  # usage:
  # lo-create-spreadsheet test.xlsx
  # lo-create-spreadsheet test.xls
  # lo-create-spreadsheet test.ods

  baseName=${1%.*}
  ext=${1#*.}

  csvFile="${baseName}.csv"
  touch "$csvFile"

  loffice --convert-to "$ext" "$csvFile"

  rm "$csvFile"
}

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[Bug 103266] [META] Command line bugs and enhancements
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--- Comment #14 from p...@muddygoat.org ---
The related behaviour about respecting paths (as in comment 10) is also needed.
This really slows down what is otherwise a standard workflow.

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--- Comment #13 from Maxim Monastirsky momonas...@gmail.com ---
*** Bug 93345 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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--- Comment #12 from Nuno J. Silva (aka njsg) nunojsi...@ist.utl.pt ---
I would also like to see this happening.

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--- Comment #11 from Maxim Monastirsky momonas...@gmail.com ---
*** Bug 48782 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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--- Comment #10 from Nadav Har'El n...@math.technion.ac.il ---
I am also really annoyed by this missing feature, which anyone who actually
uses a shell expects. To explain why this lack is annoying, consider what
happens when I am in some directory /some/directory/deep/deep/in/the/hierarchy,
and want to create a new document there. All I can do is run ooffice --writer
and then use save as which will start in my home directory, not in the
current directory I was in, and it's a pain to put the file where I originally
wanted it.

Robert's workaround in comment 4 is nice, but I'd prefer the file not to be
saved until I actually do. In other words, here is what I expect to happen:

If I do ooffice file.odt, and file.odt doesn't exist yet, file.odt wouldn't
be created yet. Rather, ooffice file.odt will behave exactly like ooffice
--writer (open a new document window), and the only difference would be that
openoffice remember the name of the file so when I press Save (not Save as)
it will written to the file I originally chose. If I don't Save, the file
will never be created.

This is how Unix editors, e.g., vi, behave, and is the most useful behavior for
people who run commands in the shell.

BTW, the link above the same bug report in OpenOffice is dead. Here is an
up-to-date link: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=6077

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--- Comment #7 from Julien Nabet serval2...@yahoo.fr ---
*** Bug 64720 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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--- Comment #8 from Julien Nabet serval2...@yahoo.fr ---
Michael: It seems a feature quite expected by users (see dup). Do you think it
could be relevant?

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--- Comment #9 from Michael Meeks michael.me...@novell.com ---
Sure sure - anyone is most welcome to hack on this one :-)
We should of course distinguish nicely between files we cannot open, and
locations we cannot write to, but I see no problem with this.

It's prolly easy-hack material in desktop/source/app/app.cxx and
cmdlineargs.cxx in there.

HTH.

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--- Comment #5 from Richard Neill x...@richardneill.org ---
Still true in 4.0.2.2

In every other editor, starting the editor with a non-existent filename causes
it to begin a new file of that type, in the relevant directory.

I do understand the rationale for the error-dialog file doesn't exist, to
help out users who made a genuine error, but perhaps it could be changed to
give us a choice. Eg:

Error. The file you selected wasn't found. Would you like to create a new
file with that name? 
   [cancel][create]


So, for example this should work to open a new blank presentation in the 
Documents/projects/penguins directory:

cd Documents/projects/penguins/
libreoffice herring.odp

Thanks for your time.

P.S. A possible heuristic would be to look at the shell environment variables;
if $PWD != $HOME, then it's highly likely that the user intended the action of
creating a new file, rather than accidentally typing a broken filename.

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Version|3.4.2 release   |3.6.2.2 release

--- Comment #4 from Robert Marmorstein rob...@narnia.homeunix.com ---
I can confirm that this issue still exists with 3.6.2.2.  

This is a really important missing features.  As the OP pointed out, this
functionality exists in pretty much every other 

A workaround is to keep a blank file around as a sort of template and copy it
with cp before opening the file.  Something like:

soffice.sh:

#!/bin/sh
NAME=$1
[ -e $NAME ] || cp $HOME/blank.odt $NAME
soffice $NAME

If you make this executable and place it somewhere in your path, it does
essentially what you might expect.  

BUT this requires keeping a blank ODT file in your home directory and being
careful not to edit it (unless you want to start out with some formatting or
something.  

It does have the advantage that you can define some default styles to apply to
your text and have them be consistent across documents, though.

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--- Comment #3 from Tristan Miller psychon...@nothingisreal.com 2012-08-15 
19:18:37 UTC ---
Confirming problem still exists with LibreOffice 3.6.0.4.

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--- Comment #2 from Hein Zelle hein.ze...@bmtargoss.com 2011-12-29 03:57:15 
PST ---
Confirmed with libreoffice 3.5.0beta2, linux32, ubuntu 10.04.

I would very much appreciate if this could be tackled.  It would make perfect
sense to make libreoffice confirm to normal command-line program behaviour.  An
old annoyance from the openoffice days, still.

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