[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 46429] scrolling switches to zooming

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--- Comment #22 from bruce...@umn.edu ---
Just another voice that I find this terribly frustrating — for me, most often
when I'm trying to hit Cmd-S for save and suddenly zoom in to 500%.

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--- Comment #21 from Chris Shaw  ---
Incidentally, it's particularly annoying when scrolling to the top or left of
the spreadsheet, since visible movement has stops when it hits the edge of the
spreadsheet, but inertia is still activating the scroll function.

I often inertia scroll to the top-left to check a heading total. The scrolling
hits A1 and stops, the total is OK and I hit Cmd-Tab to switch away from LO,
only to see it zoom huge as I switch away

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--- Comment #20 from Chris Shaw  ---
Agreed. Cmd-Scroll doesn't seem to be common for zooming on OSX - it doesn't do
it on any other application I tried. Pinch zooming is the standard (which works
on LO). Can Cmd-Scroll to Zoom be disabled on LO under OSX, or have an option
to disable it?

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--- Comment #19 from Ewen M  ---
This bug affects me on MacOS 10.14.6 (and earlier versions) with many
LibreOffice versions over many years, pretty much every time I run LibreOffice.
 Usually multiple times a day; it's the most annoying misfeature in LibreOffice
IMHO.

As the original reporter states, it's a race condition between the (slow)
LibreOffice handling of scroll events and the (fast) LibreOffice handling of
keyboard events, which results in LibreOffice interpreting scroll events that
were triggered by a user action 1/4 to 1/2 a second before the Cmd key press as
related to the cmd key, and thus a request to zoom.

Since a *very* common action in office documents is to scroll around them with
the mouse, and then, eg, use Cmd-C/Cmd-V to copy/paste between parts of the
document, the race is extremely easy to trigger, hence many users running into
it many times a day.

There is no good reason why an extremely rare operation (zooming) should be
bound to an extremely frequently accidentally triggered keyboard/mouse
combination (cmd scroll).  

At minimum there should be a configuration option to disable "cmd scroll
zooming", and ideally the entire misfeature of cmd-scroll zomming should be
removed entirely.  (When required zooming can easily be done from the zoom
menu, and it's something users might want to do once or twice a day, not every
few minutes.)

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--- Comment #18 from Nikolai Grigoriev  ---
I agree that this behaviour is extremely annoying in Calc. Please make that
configurable.

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--- Comment #17 from jeromefl...@gmail.com ---
This issue is the biggest annoyance I've ever encountered while working with
LibreOffice.

I'm running into this issue more than 5 times per every hour spent with Calc,
only because I scroll and press the Cmd key a millisecond before the inertial
scroll has finished (e.g to copy a selected cell). I end up zooming the sheet
in and out to stupid levels for no good reasons, to a point I can't see
anything and have to reset the zoom every few minutes.

I'm no developer so I can't suggest fix but I'm stunned that this hasn't been
resolved over the past 6 years.

How do other Mac Calc users cope with such a frequent and exasperating problem?
Is Calc never used on Mac by developers so that only quiet users experience
this, or just stop using Calc? 

Do other users wait patiently for the inertial scroll to stop, after forcing
themselves to slow down their use of Calc to avoid this single issue?

Do other power users simply disable inertial scrolling at the OS level
altogether? In my experience, this is just trading a huge annoyance with
another and both are insufferable on daily computer usage.

More importantly, why would any one want one scroll move to turn from scroll to
zoom in the same gesture?! How can this be helpful in any way? Why not stop the
scroll as soon as a Cmd/Ctrl key is pressed? Is this technically impossible? If
so, why not simply allow users to disable the "Cmd+Scroll to zoom" option
somewhere in the preferences?

Please. Help. I'm as mad as hell and I can't take this anymore. I'm really
considering switching back to proprietary software because of this one tiny bug
:'(

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--- Comment #16 from barefootguru  ---
Yes, this daily (hourly?!) annoyance is still present in LO 6.1.2.1, macOS
10.14

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--- Comment #14 from eisa01  ---
This bug has been here from the start as well

Still present on

Version: 6.0.0.0.alpha1+
Build ID: 7e03c4eed72452fdfb87341214a21956c08ba969
CPU threads: 2; OS: Mac OS X 10.12.6; UI render: default; 
TinderBox: MacOSX-x86_64@49-TDF, Branch:master, Time: 2017-10-25_23:45:02
Locale: en-US (en_US.UTF-8); Calc: group


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[Bug 42082] [META] Make LibreOffice shine and glow on OS X
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--- Comment #13 from James  ---
It must be difficult to imagine this happening often if you're not a mac user,
but it really does pop up all the time as the command key is a part of all
major shortcuts. 

The entire issue is with the inertia from the scroll, as it's often literally
impossible to know when the inertiatic scrolling has finished (if you're at the
top of a document or if it's, say, a one page document and you're zoomed to
'fit to screen').

If it were possible to change the scroll/zoom shortcut to use the option key
this would entire mitigate the issue.

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--- Comment #12 from barefootguru  ---
Still present in 5.3.2.2, still incredibly annoying.  Sierra 10.12.4

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--- Comment #10 from Jed  ---
It is driving me nuts as well! I'm running LO 5.0.4.2 on Mac OSX 10.9.5 I made
sure it was turned off in the OS under the Accessibility System Preference
panel. 

What I observe is if I scroll up to the top or bottom of the document and then
press the command (apple) button the document suddenly zooms in/out
respectively. It appears the scroll action (from either a track pad or scroll
wheel on a mouse) is buffered in some way by the program or OS when it can not
be fully applied to scrolling the document. The remaining "scroll" action is
then applied to whatever key is next pressed. So instead of using say command-s
to save after scrolling to the top, the document is suddenly zoomed in to >200%
and then saved.

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--- Comment #9 from librebugfiler  ---
Still present in LibreOffice 5.1.0.3 on OS X 10.9.5
Really annoying!
Other bugs like "zoom on save" are obviously the same cause.

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Yes, this irritating bug is still present in LO 4.4.0.3.  OS X 10.10.2

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--- Comment #5 from sasha.libreoff...@gmail.com 2012-08-20 06:43:04 UTC ---
Thanks for explanation why it so important on MacOS X. Other os uses Alt-Tab
for switching applications. And users encounter no problems. But MacOS X uses
Ctrl-Tab. And this results in problems for users.

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--- Comment #6 from sasha.libreoff...@gmail.com 2012-08-20 06:44:49 UTC ---
@ Thorsten
Greetings
What do You think about this bug?

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--- Comment #4 from Jason Ogden nosajne...@hotmail.com 2012-08-18 15:23:22 
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I was about to add this ticket Pressing command after scroll but during scroll
inertia causes inadvertent zooming, but I suppose you don't like duplicate
tickets. It's probably not a bug so much as an annoyance. This is confirmed on
OS X 10.7.4, LibreOffice 3.6.0.4.

This is primarily because Command+Tab is the Mac shortcut to switch
applications. I am routinely scrolling through a document and then switching to
another app. When I return, I'm on a very strange zoom level. For a while I
didn't understand why–it was confusing and felt like a bug. Now I understand
why it happens and how to prevent it, but it still catches me quite often.

I see two options:

1. Hopefully Easy: Change the shortcut to Option+Scroll instead. There is some
precedence: eg. Photoshop, Illustrator. The same annoyance doesn't occur in
those apps.

2. Probably less easy: Add some extra qualifying logic to Cmd-Scroll. For
example: Require Command to be pressed prior to the scrolling action, to
trigger the zooming function. OR You could stop scroll inertia from trigger a
zoom, in other words, only the physical scroll action plus a Command key press
would cause zooming.

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--- Comment #3 from sasha.libreoff...@gmail.com 2012-05-23 03:41:08 UTC ---
Thanks for bugreport
Suppose we use mouse scroll instead of track pad. The same result. On Windows
and Linux. In LO and Firefox.
On Windows exit program that disables touch pad when user types something on
keyboard. (Very useful thing). May be exist program that disables keyboard when
user scrolls something using track pad?

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--- Comment #1 from laur...@gmail.com 2012-04-19 04:10:45 PDT ---
I can reproduce this with LO 3.5.2 on 10.7.3 not sure though if it's a bug or
just app normal behavior

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--- Comment #2 from Pauli ppz...@gmail.com 2012-04-19 04:32:46 PDT ---
Bug or not, it really is annoying :)

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