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--- Comment #34 from mace  ---
Image handling is by far the biggest bummer in LO for me. I went over to write
my stuff and add images only at the very end of the process. Image handling
urgently needs some attention

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[Bug 100442] File with many images takes a long time to open and save
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--- Comment #33 from Felix Stadler  ---
Problem persists in Writer 5.1.1.3. on Windows. I just lost half the images
from a 30 page document. They simply disappeared. This makes Writer unusable
for creating documents with images.

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Bug 47148 depends on bug 73270, which changed state.

Bug 73270 Summary: FILESAVE: images lost after saving to new file name and 
immediately exporting to PDF
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73270

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--- Comment #32 from Michael Meeks  ---
I believe I wrote up some E-mail rant about using strings to reference images
across the code left & right, instead of UNO references - which is
spectacularly unhelpful (but I lost my rant). An image is a leaf-node, there is
no real reason not to have a nice hard, rtl::Reference<> lifecycle for whatever
wrapper we put around it (to lifecycle manage it even when it's not swapped in
etc.) that I can see. I suspect we try to be too clever - rather than having a
nice central image cache we copy images to in the file-system, and that
something simpler and more robust with some very hard lifecycle around it would
be rather better ;-)

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--- Comment #31 from V Stuart Foote vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu ---
added a couple of relevant issues (Windows specific) writer and impress

Bug 82465 - Permanent crashes in writer with images
Bug 81378 - Permanent Crashes and Content Loss in Presentations (Bad
allocation warning and crash)

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Bug 86649 Summary: Images randomly disappear
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--- Comment #30 from Cor Nouws c...@nouenoff.nl ---
(In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #23)
 Created attachment 102617 [details]
 extension with simple macro for importing whole series of images in one run
 in Writer document

Adapted for use in Impress and Writer
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46447#c150

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--- Comment #29 from V Stuart Foote vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu ---
linking a couple of the closed issues with commits to core/graphic/ndgrf.cxx
and svdraw/svdograf.cxx, and svdpagv.cxx

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--- Comment #27 from tommy27 ba...@quipo.it ---
@choffardet
that looks like Bug 46447 which is already in the Depends on of this
meta-bug.
read the discussion over there.

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--- Comment #28 from choffardet pierre.choffar...@free.fr ---
@tommy27, yes, I've just read the bug description but yes, that is the same
behaviour. 
But I'm working with OpenOffice since 1.9 beta and I'm regularly working with
impress, and more, I never link my images.
I've never see this bug since LO 4.2.5.1

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--- Comment #26 from choffardet pierre.choffar...@free.fr ---
I've just been working on a odp existing file. Adding two pictures, working on
the slide, and back to the pictures, they were gone !?

It happens many times, but I can't reproduce.

Problem starts with 4.2.5.1, and these evening with 4.2.6.1

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--- Comment #21 from Rupert Kolb rupert.k...@uni-tuebingen.de ---
This seems to be a time bomb.

see bug 73270.
I was hit by this when switching from 4.2.x to 4.3.0  (For the moment I
switched back).

Not a good feeling to know that at your long documents (manuals for students,
thesis, ...) suddenly some images might just vanish.

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--- Comment #22 from Michael Meeks michael.me...@collabora.com ---
Wow - thanks for the link. Apparently, from:

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=73270#c10

We have a reproducer for a similar issue ! =)

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--- Comment #23 from Cor Nouws c...@nouenoff.nl ---
Created attachment 102617
  -- https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=102617action=edit
extension with simple macro for importing whole series of images in one run in
Writer document

The attached adds a simple macro library

1) Start Writer document; then the macro dialog (macro 'StartInsertPictures')
2) Choose a folder with a lot of images  OK
  The pictures will be placed one after another in the document.  
  Might also stop working after 20, 30, ... images.  
  See what this triggers in traces, debugging etc

Good luck,
Cor

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--- Comment #24 from Cor Nouws c...@nouenoff.nl ---
Simple to reproduce case
 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52226#c41

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--- Comment #25 from Cor Nouws c...@nouenoff.nl ---

Useful comment on role of autosave
  https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46447#c85

Comment with summary of some of the cases
  https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52226#c31


I've seen the problem recently with a writer document and a presentation. Not
too complicated, both losing one of the images while editing.
I've spend time and time to try to reproduce. Not..

As I've written somewhere else in one of the many occurrences of this problem:
Knowing that there are various in memory copies of a document, and in Impress
maybe related to various views (side panel, normal view, slide sorter, ..) it
may be well possible that there is a problem in synchronising those copies.
This is supported by some other comments too.

This will help to _not_ reproduce the problem ;) ... but alas neither is a
guaranty that it won't happen, nor does it help as a reliable solution to do
reproduce it..

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--- Comment #20 from Cor Nouws c...@nouenoff.nl ---
*** Bug 80352 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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--- Comment #19 from Michael Meeks michael.me...@collabora.com ---
More stupid stuff (from a performance perspective) from Impress - why does it
take forever to save big slide-decks ? - it's -reading- and de-compressing all
the images (but thankfully not re-compressing them all ;-).

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--- Comment #17 from Cor Nouws c...@nouenoff.nl ---
(In reply to comment #16)
 The writer issue is/was supposedly fixed; and is only one of the issues.
 Long after that fix I'm still loosing images in impress - when loading and
 trying to edit together large slide decks. Nothing reproducible but ...
 horrible.

FWIW: someone contacted me with that very same problem.
I could do the job by:
 - fully loading all slides in both applications 
   (so in Normal/Edit view pgd through all the slides)
 - then in Sort view copy some 5, 6 slides per time and 
   paste in the other presentation
 - and save after each paste
So this sort of helps to ensure that all in memory copies of the presentations
on screen have all the graphics ..

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--- Comment #18 from Michael Meeks michael.me...@collabora.com ---
Cor - it sounds like your instructions are to avoid loosing the images ;-) but
we're badly trying to find a repeatable example / set of slides where we can
loose them =) does anyone have any repeatable steps from a fresh exit/re-start
of LibreOffice ? we tend to only see the aftermath when the suite has got into
a busted state after some (ill defined) usage.

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--- Comment #16 from Michael Meeks michael.me...@collabora.com ---
The writer issue is/was supposedly fixed; and is only one of the issues. Long
after that fix I'm still loosing images in impress - when loading and trying to
edit together large slide decks. Nothing reproducible but ... horrible.

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Bug 67583 Summary: FILEOPEN: Not open file
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--- Comment #15 from Michael Meeks michael.me...@collabora.com ---
I have a document for which I can reproduce the image loss under 4.1.x - though
it takes a longish series of:

load .odt
save .odt
save .docx
re-load
save .odt
save .docx
reload (and the image is now lost)

Hopefully that will help us get to a better understanding here of the writer
issues.

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--- Comment #14 from Norbert Thiebaud nthieb...@gmail.com ---
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 (In reply to comment #12)
  it now build _and_ seems to pass the basic subsequent checks...
 
 Hmm :)
 
 If there is any build (or way to build) that we can test, pls let it know!
 thanks Norbert,
 Cor

Don't thanks me yet... make check still blow in few places...
and more importantly graphics seems not to be displayed at all at this point
so not quite there yet

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--- Comment #13 from Cor Nouws c...@nouenoff.nl ---
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 it now build _and_ seems to pass the basic subsequent checks...

Hmm :)

If there is any build (or way to build) that we can test, pls let it know!
thanks Norbert,
Cor

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--- Comment #12 from Norbert Thiebaud nthieb...@gmail.com ---
it now build _and_ seems to pass the basic subsequent checks...

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--- Comment #11 from Michael Meeks michael.me...@collabora.com ---
Work is ongoing on this in the feature/graphicobject branch ... thanks to
Norbert for some great progress there during the conference: it now builds ;-)
[ still a v. long way to go ].

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--- Comment #10 from Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com ---
*** Bug 67624 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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--- Comment #9 from Michael Meeks michael.me...@novell.com ---
The code at:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33393#c37

Is almost certainly related to this.

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--- Comment #8 from stfhell stfh...@googlemail.com ---
Bug 55312 seems to indicate that images end up as read errors when inserted
before Writer has completed its document layout. Adding that to the
blocks-list.

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--- Comment #7 from Michael Meeks michael.me...@novell.com ---
The many-megabyte leakage going on in bug#52433 are a particularly nice
instance of this - where we have a leakage in place of a crash.

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--- Comment #6 from Michael Meeks michael.me...@novell.com ---
Another instance of this may be:
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=105191

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--- Comment #5 from Bernard SIAUD li...@siaud.org 2012-05-04 06:57:28 PDT ---
I have a Index entry in my frame (cadre in french) and I have note lost this
entry. But I can't see this entry in this frame. I see this only in the
table/index off entry.

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--- Comment #3 from Björn Michaelsen bjoern.michael...@canonical.com 
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Is this metabug really a 3.5 MAB? E.g. are we expecting to kill it on the
release branch or is this work that touches too much code to be really safely
backported?
Without deeper knowledge of the topic I would assume the second, and thus
demote this from 3.5 MAB state.

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--- Comment #1 from zeitli...@yahoo.de 2012-03-13 09:27:58 PDT ---
Please consider https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46447
It damages presentations containing images irreversibly.
It happens for more than 80% of the presentation I do.
It has been around for me for all 3.x versions (and maybe earlier ones).

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--- Comment #2 from Michael Meeks michael.me...@novell.com 2012-03-13 
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Of course - any chance of some hunting through bugzilla to find any more
instances of this sort of image-loss meta-problem ?

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