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--- Comment #20 from Thomas Lendo  ---
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--- Comment #19 from Cor Nouws  ---
(In reply to Christian Lehmann from comment #18)
> Sorry for the repetition. How can one delete one's own comment?

Not, but depending on rights, one can tag it. I tagged the second as obsolete.
Thanks for asking & no problem!

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--- Comment #16 from Christian Lehmann  ---
This bug has a long history (first reported for LO 3.5) and has been discussed
in the following bug reports:
49710 (the present one)
98762 (apparently a newer report)
115817
and possibly (depending on what exactly is meant there) in 43220.

Using 115817, Heiko Tietze writes:
Discussed this in the design meeting. The implementation might have room for
improvement, ie. position/popup of controls, but the functionality itself is
not questioned. So we keep it, perhaps in the future not as a standalone
toolbar.

1) Merge the bug discussions relating to the same issue.
2) The functionality has been questioned by several users. It is opaque where
exactly one is led by a click on the arrow head. (I could propose a more
transparent and practical solution.)
3) The design and behavior of the bar have been rightly criticized by many
people: a) The two arrowheads constitute an entire icon bar by themselves and
cannot be moved to another bar. Thus, they occupy too much space. b) The bar
keeps popping up even if the user has disabled it in the View > Icon bars menu.
It would seem to be time that the developer reacts to rational argument.

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--- Comment #18 from Christian Lehmann  ---
Sorry for the repetition. How can one delete one's own comment?

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--- Comment #17 from Christian Lehmann  ---
This bug has a long history (first reported for LO 3.5) and has been discussed
in the following bug reports:
49710 (the present one)
98762 (apparently a newer report)
115817
and possibly (depending on what exactly is meant there) in 43220.
It persists in version 6.

Using 115817, Heiko Tietze writes:
Discussed this in the design meeting. The implementation might have room for
improvement, ie. position/popup of controls, but the functionality itself is
not questioned. So we keep it, perhaps in the future not as a standalone
toolbar.

1) Merge the bug discussions relating to the same issue.
2) The functionality has been questioned by several users. It is opaque where
exactly one is led by a click on the arrow head. (I could propose a more
transparent and practical solution.)
3) The design and behavior of the bar have been rightly criticized by many
people: a) The two arrowheads constitute an entire icon bar by themselves and
cannot be moved to another bar. Thus, they occupy too much space. b) The bar
keeps popping up even if the user has disabled it in the View > Icon bars menu.
It would seem to be time that the developer reacts to rational argument.

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--- Comment #15 from Christian Lehmann  ---
This feature is still present in v. 5.4.2.2. I join the majority of those who
have posted here: 

The navigation bar is completely useless, as it does not even what it is
supposed to do; and if it did, it would not provide an enhancement over the
navigator, which is always available.

Moreover, one or two little arrow heads occupy an entire toolbar and, thus,
precious space. It is impossible to transfer the symbols to another bar or to
combine this bar in one column or row with another symbol bar (as it is
possible with other symbol bars).

Please remove the navigation bar; or else, if you are so fond of it, at least
allow the user to permanently disable it.

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--- Comment #13 from Cor Nouws  ---
(In reply to Samuel Mehrbrodt (CIB) from comment #11)
> Since 5.1 this toolbar is docked next to the formatting toolbar. should fix
> the issue.

Hi Samuel,

Indeed it is much better when the tool bar doesn't pop up somewhere floating.
However there should be a way to disable the automatic display. When you
disable the too lbar Image or Table via the menu, it will not pop up automatic.
That does not happen with the navigation tool bar.

So, sorry, I reopen this issue.

(I've no idea honestly, when this tool bar appears. Sometimes with numbers,
headings, Navigator.. It just happens..)

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--- Comment #11 from Samuel Mehrbrodt (CIB)  ---
Since 5.1 this toolbar is docked next to the formatting toolbar. should fix the
issue.

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--- Comment #12 from Aibara  ---
(In reply to Samuel Mehrbrodt (CIB) from comment #11)
> Since 5.1 this toolbar is docked next to the formatting toolbar. should fix
> the issue.

This is not fixed in 5.1. It might default to being docked next to the
formatting toolbar, but the user could always just dock the bar anyhow.

The issue therefore remains: a (in my opinion useless) navigation toolbar
appears each time certain actions (like inserting a footnote) are taken. Even
once the user closes it, it simply appears again.

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--- Comment #10 from James A. Schulz jasch...@wiseware.com ---
It occurs whenever I click on a heading in the sidebar navigator.  Still
happens in today's release: 4.4.3.2

This is real nuisance because: 1. the toolbar steals something like a quarter
inch from the height of the viewport (to no good purpose); 2. it requires three
clicks to get rid of it each time it shows up (i.e. each time I click on a
heading in the sidebar navigator).

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--- Comment #9 from Henrik hsones...@gmail.com ---
Still present in
Version: 4.4.0.3
Build ID: 40m0(Build:3)
Ubuntu 14.04 i386

It occurs for me everytime I create and delete a header or a footer, and also
when I create a footnote/endnote.

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--- Comment #8 from Henrik hsones...@gmail.com ---
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Screenshot of the problem as it occurs after having created a header.

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--- Comment #7 from Aibara cranberrydoug...@yahoo.com ---
Still present in version 4.2.4.2.
Since no developer has commented yet: is this not considered an undesirable
behavior? I, at least, cannot see the logic in re-opening a toolbar the user
has closed everytime the user creates a footnote; it's simply an annoyance.

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--- Comment #6 from Paul pip@gmx.com ---
Present with:

libreoffice-4.0.3.3.5-2.1  
openSUSE 12.3 x86_64

Reproducible as in comment #2

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--- Comment #5 from Aibara cranberrydoug...@yahoo.com ---
This bug is still extant in version 4.0.0.2 (on Ubuntu 12.04).

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--- Comment #4 from bfoman bfo.bugm...@spamgourmet.com ---
Confirmed with:
LO 3.6.3.1 
Build ID: f8fce0b
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--- Comment #3 from Aibara cranberrydoug...@yahoo.com 2012-08-20 18:01:50 UTC 
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Still a problem in 3.6.0.2.

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--- Comment #1 from Aibara cranberrydoug...@yahoo.com 2012-07-28 17:21:20 PDT 
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I can confirm this. I'm using version 3.5.5.3 on Ubuntu 12.04.

I also have the navigation toolbar occsionally appear when I insert footnotes.
It does not always appear, but does frequently enough to be an annoyance.

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--- Comment #2 from Aibara cranberrydoug...@yahoo.com 2012-07-28 19:55:35 UTC 
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Actually, after playing around with it for a bit I've realized that the
navigation toolbar appears everytime I add a footnote (if I close it, it will
appear again upon adding the next new footnote).

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