[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 50774] FILEOPEN DOC/DOCX: automatic numbering in numbered lists different from Word numbering

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--- Comment #32 from Timon  ---
Still fixed only partially in Version: 6.4.5.2 (x64)
Build ID: a726b36747cf2001e06b58ad5db1aa3a9a1872d6

Only table of contents is shown absolutely right. 

But if we start scrolling through the contents of the document further, we will
see many discrepancies

In table of contents we see

2.1 Назначение системы  7
2.2 Цели создания системы   7
3   ХАРАКТЕРИСТИКА ОБЪЕКТА АВТОМАТИЗАЦИИ9

4.1 Перечень программ, их назначение и основные характеристики  10
4.2 Требования к способам обмена информацией и средствам связи для
информационного обмена между компонентами системы и со смежными системами  
 10
4.3 Требования к численности и квалификации персонала системы,
обеспечивающих администрирование и сопровождение системы, в том числе изменение
конфигурации системы (адаптация под изменения в законодательстве и методиках
расчета, создание отчетных форм и настройки обмена информацией с другими ИС)   
11
4.4 Требования к обучению пользователей 12
4.5 Показатели назначения   12
4.6 Требования к надежности 13
4.7 Требования к безопасности   13
4.8 Требования к эргономике и технической эстетике  13
4.9 Требования к эксплуатации, техническому обслуживанию, ремонту и
хранению компонентов системы14
4.10Требования к защите информации от несанкционированного доступа  14
4.11Требования по сохранности информации при авариях15
4.12Требования к патентной чистоте

In document text on pages 4 and 5 we see

1.1 Назначение системы 
1.2 Цели создания системы
2 ХАРАКТЕРИСТИКА ОБЪЕКТА АВТОМАТИЗАЦИИ

3.1 Перечень программ, их назначение и основные характеристики
• Программа 1
• Программа 2
• Программа 3

3.2 Требования к способам обмена информацией и средствам связи для
информационного обмена между компонентами системы и со смежными системами

3.3 Требования к численности и квалификации персонала системы, обеспечивающих
администрирование и сопровождение системы, в том числе изменение конфигурации
системы (адаптация под изменения в законодательстве и методиках расчета,
создание отчетных форм и настройки обмена информацией с другими ИС)

3.4 Требования к обучению пользователей

3.5 Показатели назначения

3.6 Требования к надежности

3.7 Требования к безопасности

3.8 Требования к эргономике и технической эстетике

3.9 Требования к эксплуатации, техническому обслуживанию, ремонту и хранению
компонентов системы

3.10 Требования к защите информации от несанкционированного доступа

3.11 Требования по сохранности информации при авариях

3.12 Требования к патентной чистоте

Numration again dancing as she pleases, but already in the document itself

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 50774] FILEOPEN DOC/DOCX: automatic numbering in numbered lists different from Word numbering

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--- Comment #31 from Luke  ---
Verified FIXED in Version: 6.4.0.0.alpha0+ (x64)
Build ID: 396869e0e71bd33f5d962779abf72f35d01245e5

Thanks Michael for fixing this with your work in Bug 95848

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*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 95848 ***

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--- Comment #29 from Timur  ---
Created attachment 153978
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Example 9 COMPARED.png

fixed

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--- Comment #28 from Justin L  ---
Created attachment 142259
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=142259=edit
Bug 50774 - stripped4.doc: roundtripped by MS Word 2003

(In reply to Xisco Faulí from comment #27)
> commit7201d157a2ff2f0a8b6bb8fa57e31871187cbc81 (patch)
> tdf#76817 ooxmlimport: connect Heading to existing numbers
I reverted this patch today.

But it is worth noting that .doc format looks the same way in LO. That suggests
that this bug is an odd-ball example. Since MS and LO internally have very
different numbering implementation's, it might not be possible to emulate this
one.

So, no - I'm not really interested in spending more time in this minefield :-)

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--- Comment #27 from Xisco Faulí  ---
After

author  Justin Luth    2018-01-12 20:44:06 +0300
committer   Miklos Vajna   2018-01-15 13:57:29
+0100
commit  7201d157a2ff2f0a8b6bb8fa57e31871187cbc81 (patch)
tree2eebe2d8f6cdacd102b79e52a081fa5471dbfec4
parent  a6b69a9384801f77f4cc30a366a45561c28eab3e (diff)
tdf#76817 ooxmlimport: connect Heading to existing numbers

the attachment 114395 has changed from being shown like 1.1 to 1.
@Justinm, I thought you might be interested in this issue...

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--- Comment #26 from Timur  ---
(In reply to Gabriel Bowater from comment #25)
> Created attachment 134050 [details]
> Misnumbering not occurring in LO 5.3.3.2 2017-06-16
> 
> Opening file in the current stable LO version doesn't produce the
> undesirable result show in earlier screenshots.

Wrong conclusion. Contents table looks ok, but numbering in text is not. Can be
seen if contents table is updated.

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--- Comment #25 from Gabriel Bowater  ---
Created attachment 134050
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=134050=edit
Misnumbering not occurring in LO 5.3.3.2 2017-06-16

Opening file in the current stable LO version doesn't produce the undesirable
result show in earlier screenshots.

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--- Comment #24 from Cor Nouws c...@nouenoff.nl ---
(In reply to meneerjansen00 from comment #22)
 Seems like a duplicate of this bug:
 https://bugs.documentfoundation.org//show_bug.cgi?id=76817

I don't think so.
The other bug is about numbering that is different when inserted in a docx.
This one is about numbering that looks different if opened in A or B

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--- Comment #23 from rpr rpr.nos...@gmail.com ---
We usually mark new bugs as duplicate of an older one, not vice versa.

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--- Comment #22 from meneerjanse...@gmail.com ---
Seems like a duplicate of this bug:
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org//show_bug.cgi?id=76817

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--- Comment #21 from Luke lukebe...@hotmail.com ---
Created attachment 114395
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stripped-down file

I removed everything before and after the point where the outline heading was
desync'd. It seems to be an outline style issue. The correct headings should
be:

2 
2.1
2.2
3
3.1
3.2
4

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--- Comment #20 from Luke lukebe...@hotmail.com ---
This is still an issue with the latest build:
Version: 4.5.0.0.alpha0+
Build ID: 4ee55eed6a34f6f061a0cd369a30afb464f9fa27

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--- Comment #18 from todven...@suomi24.fi ---
Numbering works ok for me on Win 7 64-bit 4.3.2.2 and dev build Version:
4.4.0.0.alpha0+
Build ID: 3e2bd1e4022e25b77bcc8eba5e02c1adc57008a1
TinderBox: Win-x86@42, Branch:master, Time: 2014-10-16_01:04:13

Please test!

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--- Comment #19 from Timon kaktebyaviru...@gmail.com ---
Win XP SP3, LibreOffice: 4.3.2.2 Build ID:
edfb5295ba211bd31ad47d0bad0118690f76407d

As I already wrote, not everything is fixed!

On pages 1-3 now all is fine, BUT please have a look at pages 4-8 (numbering is
still terrible)!

2
1.8
1.9

2
3.1
3.2

4
3.1
3.2
3.3
3.4
3.5
3.6
3.7
3.8
3.9
3.10
3.11
3.12

4
4.1
4.1.1
4.1.2
4.1.3
4.1.4
4.1.5
4.1.6
4.1.7
4.1.8
4.1.9
4.1.10
4.1.11

4.2
4.2.1
4.2.2
4.2.3

4.3
4.3.1
4.3.2
4.3.3
4.3.4

4.4

4.5

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--- Comment #17 from Timon kaktebyaviru...@gmail.com ---
Created attachment 90828
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Example 9 DOC and DOCX file, exported in pdf format in MSO 2007 SP3 and
LibreOffice 4.2.0.0 beta 2

In LibreOffice 4.2.0.0.beta2 Build ID: 1a27be92e320f97c20d581a69ef1c8b99ea9885d
things are much better, but only for DOC file format. In DOCX things got worse
(partly numbering gone at all). Compare attached PDF's to see differences.

In Example 9 DOC LO 4.2.pdf all is fine till page 4, but at page 4 all is
messed up again
2
1.8
1.9
2
3.1
3.2
4
3.1
3.2
and so on

In Example 9 DOCX LO 4.2.pdf problems are seen from the first page, we see
only items 1, 2, 4, and so on and don't see 1.1, 1.2, and so on numeration at
all.

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--- Comment #15 from Rainer Bielefeld libreoff...@bielefeldundbuss.de ---
I can confirm that Lotus Symphony Release 3.0.1 Revision 20120110.2000 on
German WIN7 Home Premium (64bit) shows headings in sample 2012-06-06 03:09 UTC,
Timon correctly.

So it's a difficult decision:
- Is it that worth to invest time to do a fix for such strange documents?
- But if other free software is able to handle that, shouldn't LibO 
  be able, too?

@stfhell
Is it possible to split this into separate bugs with brief clear and simple bug
descriptions? I'm a little overwhelmed with that enormous lot of samples

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--- Comment #16 from stfhell stfh...@googlemail.com ---
 @stfhell
 Is it possible to split this into separate bugs with brief clear and simple
 bug descriptions? I'm a little overwhelmed with that enormous lot of samples

The problem is I wouldn't know what to put exactly in the other bug reports. I
was looking at how Example 9 does its numbering and I was experimenting with
autonumbering in Word to see where LO deviated and if there is any difference
between DOC and DOCX import. I'm sorry for the lengthy comments but I couldn't
make them shorter because I still don't know where exactly LO's problems start,
I could only describe what I found in the file. Maybe it is in fact just one
bug.

The samples show (I think):
(1) If autonumbering is used correctly in Word, LO can handle it.
(2) Autonumbering in Word (without list styles) is obviously bound to lead to
messy files, at some stage.
Just ignore the files if you don't want to use them for any experiments.

 I can confirm that Lotus Symphony Release 3.0.1 Revision 20120110.2000 on
 German WIN7 Home Premium (64bit) shows headings in sample 2012-06-06 03:09
 UTC, Timon correctly.
 So it's a difficult decision:
 - Is it that worth to invest time to do a fix for such strange documents?
 - But if other free software is able to handle that, shouldn't LibO 
   be able, too?

I think it would be worthwhile. Example 9 is a typical real-life Word
document. People create such files, partly because autonumbering is more or
less forced on them by AutoCorrect. It's a feature which _should_ be used
with some consideration. I regularly get Word files from people, and with LO
(or OO) I can often only guess what kind of numbering the authors had in mind.
Sometimes I have to use MS Word Viewer to print a PDF as a reference for the
original doc's numbering.

On import of DOC/DOCX, LO tries to convert Word's non-style autonumbering to a
style-based numbering (the filter creates plenty of WW8 list styles). That is
not a trivial thing to do, and I could imagine that this is the root of the
problem.

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Summary|FILEOPEN particular .docx:  |FILEOPEN DOC/DOCX:
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   ||numbered lists different
   ||from Word numbering

--- Comment #12 from stfhell stfh...@googlemail.com ---
Changed the summary: Problem is not restricted to DOCX but also concerns DOC
import. And it's not only outlines which are concerned. If numbering had been
done via headings in the test file, it would probably have worked better.

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--- Comment #13 from stfhell stfh...@googlemail.com ---
Created attachment 70894
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Word 2010 doc/docx files with numbered headings

Here are some files with documents created from scratch under Word 2010. Text
was written, paragraph styles applied, then numbering using the Word
Numbering ribbon button; no list styles. File sets as DOC, DOCX and PDF. LO
is very MS compatible here:

File set 1: Word defaulted to a mixed numbering style (level 1: numbers; level
2: letters) and kept all numbered paragraphs in its own numbering group.

File set 2: Changed level 2 to number instead of letter.

File set 3: Wanted to add a numbered list as body text and used same numbering
button. Word continues numbering the fresh list with the heading numbering.

File set 4: So we restart the body text list numbering... (4a:) Word does it,
but of course the next heading continues the numbering (5) - and in addition
to that, the following level-2 list jumps back to letters. (4b:) I can restart
numbering of heading 2, and I can set level 2 list format to number again; but
I didn't manage to get heading 2.1 start with 1 again. This is where the Word
user starts hacking...

File set 5: File set 3 converted to multi-level numbering.

With all these files, LO shows the same numbering as Word, even with restarted
numbering. When you open the files, it creates automatic styles WW8Num* which
presumably reflect Word's numbering groups.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 50774] FILEOPEN DOC/DOCX: automatic numbering in numbered lists different from Word numbering

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https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50774

--- Comment #14 from stfhell stfh...@googlemail.com ---
(re comment #13)
 With all these files, LO shows the same numbering as Word, even with
 restarted numbering. When you open the files, it creates automatic styles
 WW8Num* which presumably reflect Word's numbering groups.

With Example 9, LO seems to get confused about this mapping to its styles.
The Heading 1 paragraph style is not on outline level 1, probably because
there is no regular automatic h1 numbering in the file, as with the other
headings (the numbers for h1 are mostly ordinary text; the restart of numbering
for the headings happens in hidden paragraphs of style List Paragraph). LO
associates the styles for headings 2 and 3 with chapter numbering, but not
heading 1. If you correct that, the file looks a lot better. But LO keeps a
single numbering group for what should be chapter 3 plus the following hidden
paragraph that is supposed to restart numbering to 3. Both paragraphs are
mapped to the same list style.

I'm tempted to say that it would be asking too much to translate such a mixture
of numbering methods into something coherent, but it's noteworthy that
ApacheComment #1 says that Symphony gets the numbering right:
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=119840#c1

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