[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 51015] EDITING: conditional formating does not update automatically

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--- Comment #19 from reussand...@gmail.com ---
It works as expected in 
Version: 6.1.5.2
Build ID: 1:6.1.5-3+deb10u5
CPU threads: 8; OS: Linux 4.19; UI render: GL; VCL: gtk3_kde5; 
Locale: hu-HU (hu_HU.UTF-8); Calc: group threaded

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 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |WORKSFORME

--- Comment #18 from Buovjaga  ---
b.: thanks for digging. Indeed the original sample now works fine. Let's close
as WFM, then, and ignore the second issue as it was invalid.

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--- Comment #17 from b.  ---
format description in'content.xml' for sh2 in second sample file is: 



that's referencing sh1 instead of sh2 and thus not what was intended ... 

i can't explain how this came there ... but doubt anybody else can ... 

i think we can close this as 'buggy file', 

tested with ver: 

Version: 6.5.0.0.alpha0+ (x64)
Build ID: 209fc9fd7fa433947af0bf86e210d73fa7f5a045
CPU threads: 8; OS: Windows 6.1 Service Pack 1 Build 7601; UI render: default;
VCL: win; 
Locale: de-DE (de_DE); UI-Language: en-US
Calc: CL

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--- Comment #16 from b.  ---
hint to boil down the problem, 

the 'irregularity' stored in sh2 in the sample file (2) affects that the
conditional formatting of A1:A8 on sheet 2 is 'not copyable', neither by
copying the sheet into another sheet, nor by copying the range A1:A8 to another
sheet, nor inside the same sheet, despite the fact that the formatting lokks
'normal' when you access editing of conditional formats, and is correctly
defined for the range of cells. 

the conditional format defined on Sh1 is copyable in all mentioned ways.  

if te conditional formatting on Sh2 is defined new - delete and create new - it
works as it should.

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--- Comment #15 from b.  ---
in sample 2 with ver 4.1.6.2 

A.) the conditional format is! applied to cells A2 to A8 in the copied sheet
after! input to / edit of one of these cells, not to all of them, but to all
below the changed cell, 

B.) new copies of sh1 work as buggy as sh2, 

with ver 6.3.0.0.alpha0+_2019-03-22

C.) effect A.) changes from affecting cells below the edit to affecting all
cells in the 'group' A2:A8

D.) new copies of sh1 work correctly, while sh2 still fails, 

funny side effects: 

1.) a 'non changing edit' like input of a space and deleting it before pressing
enter or just touching the cell with 'F2 and enter' affects the touched cell,
but not! the others in the 'group' to get the intended formatting, while input
of a value affects the other cells in A2:A8 as well (not visible if it's
affecting A1 as this is changed beforehand), 

2.) effect 1.) changed from affecting the whole group to only the edited cell
on real edits after changing the formula for the conditional format from '<0'
to '>0' and stayed that way when changing back to the old formula, 

this is the first / oldest occurence of: 

'autocalculate not working correctly for groups of cells'

i've found yet, not sure how much it is 'related' to other bugs like #123714,
#123736, #124270, but i assume it may be ... it's something in the area of
'having a group', and keeping most of it's definition but breaking it apart for
the 'recursion?' of autocalculate on 'actions' with or inside the the group of
cells or referenced ranges ... 

just my two cents ... 

suggestion: estimated from effect D.) there must be something stored as
'property' in the file that's 'related' to whether cells are autocalculated
correctly. as it is possible to have 'old' sheets with 'broken' content,
formatting or functionality in it, imho it would be a great idea to add a 'file
checking utility' to calc which - either triggered manually or like the
recalculation of excel files or 'not saved with lo' files on load of a file -
could run and check for occurences of 'old misbehaviour' or 'problems with
files saved by buggy versions', and either warn the user about it or correct
the fault (!with notice to the user that his file will change it's behaviour!), 

- i've read something about the usances in this community and that it's wrong
to write what follows, but feel under pressure to bring it in discussion. 

- this error is around for nearly 7 years now, and not yet fundamentally fixed.
it might be 'related' to plenty other bugs (i've heard something about 'code
re-use' in modern styles of programming), thus it might be difficult to get out
the other errors while this one is unresolved. i'd like to change the
importance to 'critical', but will let that to other users who know better if
and when steps like this are suitable. 

- you / we / the community advertise(s) with 'the spreadsheet you ever wanted'
or similar ... imho fundamental bugs in calculating (also if they 'only' affect
presentation of results, such things may be very important for the user and the
use and usability of the results) should be handled 'in time' and in a proper
way. the codebase has to be clear and reliable for all things affecting
calculations and results before! we argue about the size of triangels in
symbols and spend time for things like that ... 

reg. 

b.

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--- Comment #14 from b.  ---
hello @all ... to whom it may concern ... , 
sorry for undigging an old thread, i'm on the hunt for a bug, 
not calculating the conditional format for C2:D10 in sample 1 while: 
a) - being able to do so, strg-shift-F9 produces results as expected, and
b) - doing it with manually triggered forced recalc (strg-shift-F9), 
(both tested with ver. 4.1.6.2, win7-x64) 
shows two things to me, 
1) - despite being complex the formula for the conditional formatting is ok, 
2) - something for the view / display / calculation of the cells is excluded
from autocalculate (normally it shouldn't be like that), 
3) - already in this version it is possible that aspects of cells become
excluded from autocalculate (that's what i'm hunting for), 
additional results: 
A) - it's not dependent on pointing to ranges, 
B) - it's somehow dependent on pointing to a cell in the same row, works better
on them, 
C) - other influences, in sample 2 switching the sheet, touching conditional
formatting and similar have the same effect as forced recalc, (was mentioned in
former comments), 
D) - in sample 1 it's somehow dependent on the complexity of the formula and
pointing to ranges, a workaround with two conditions with simpler formulas
(less "$", no absolute sheet reference) pointing to ranges in single columns
works as expected, 
E) - sample 1 works as expected with ver. 6.3.0.0.alpha0+ from 2019-03-09, it's
either fixed or plastered by changes in 4.2 to 6.3, 
F) - E) is not the case for sample 2, it works as buggy in 6.3 as it has been
in 4.1,

who / what the heck made anything in the displayed result of a sheet dependent
on forced recalc (recalculations not done without additional triggering),

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--- Comment #13 from reussand...@gmail.com ---
1:5.2.7-1+deb9u4:
It work fine on debian jessie system (the default package)

03c14b836ab03735870b36c2388fd88782b9755:
It does not work correctly, but the way it described in this issue.

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--- Comment #11 from Toby  ---
I have this problem in LO 5.2.1.2.

If I load the 'Cells with conditional format in copied sheet.." file in the
attachments, and change A1 from -5 to 5, the red cells should go white, but
they don't until I press CTRL-SHIFT-F9.

This was a problem for me in my own spreadsheet, until I went to put in a bug
report and found out about CTRL-SHIFT-F9 - I didn't even know about this
keyboard command, and still don't know how it differs from F9, which should
calculate!

I have 'Autocalculate' switched on BTW, so I expected it to re-calculate.

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--- Comment #9 from Beluga  ---
(In reply to ign_christian from comment #4)
> I can confirm reproducible on LO 4.0.3.3 (Win7 32bit)
> 
> Changing cell G2 to 1000 isn't updating cells C2:D10 format. Changing
> applied after clicking save.

Yep, needs ctrl-shift-f9.

Lowering severity
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Win 7 Pro 64-bit Version: 5.1.0.0.alpha1+
Build ID: 01a189abcd9a4ca472a74b3b2c000c9338fc2c91
TinderBox: Win-x86@39, Branch:master, Time: 2015-06-14_07:46:28
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--- Comment #7 from j.tro...@hotmail.fr ---
Created attachment 90616
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Cells with conditional format in copied sheet are not refreshed automatically

Presumably a slightly different manifestation of this bug
(LO 4.1.3.2 Windows 7 - 64)

In sheet Sh1, cells A1:A8 have a red background if A1 contains a negative
value.
Conditional format works as expected.

Sh2 was created as a copy of Sh1 (right click on tab)
On modification of A1, the background of A2:A8 remains unchanged.

Some actions restoring proper display :
-- ctrl+shift+F9 (not F9 by itself)
-- moving or redimensioning the window
-- going to and from another sheet...

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CC'ing our conditional formatting expert :), Markus

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--- Comment #5 from Jorendc  ---
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> I can confirm reproducible on LO 4.0.3.3 (Win7 32bit)
> 
> Changing cell G2 to 1000 isn't updating cells C2:D10 format. Changing
> applied after clicking save.

So we can mark it as NEW.

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--- Comment #4 from ign_christian  ---
I can confirm reproducible on LO 4.0.3.3 (Win7 32bit)

Changing cell G2 to 1000 isn't updating cells C2:D10 format. Changing applied
after clicking save.

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--- Comment #2 from reussand...@gmail.com 2012-06-13 00:09:22 PDT ---
Created attachment 62949
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a sample to work on

In the attached document, I can change the value in G2, but the range
formatting does not change, only on keypress F9 or something that needs a
screen refresh.

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--- Comment #1 from Rainer Bielefeld  
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Not a valid bug report.

I can't remember to have seen something like that with "LibreOffice 3.5.4.2 
German UI/Locale [Build-ID: 165a79a-7059095-e13bb37-fef39a4-9503d18] on German
WIN7 Home Premium (64bit) 

@reussand...@gmail.com 
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May be hints on  will help you to
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