[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 52472] Position of newly created Comment in Drawing is always 0, 0 at top left

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 52472] Position of newly created Comment in Drawing is always 0, 0 at top left

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Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107431
[Bug 107431] [META] Comment bugs and enhancements
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=112873
[Bug 112873] [META] Impress/Draw comment bugs and enhancements
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 52472] Position of newly created Comment in Drawing is always 0, 0 at top left

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--- Comment #12 from Regina Henschel  ---
See my comment in bug 107347, how annotations on objects would be possible in
Draw and why the annotation on the page is an extension of LibreOffice.

The  element has already the attributes svg:x and svg:y
for the position. Changing the values manually in the file format to set the
annotation on a new position is already possible. So I see no reason, to refuse
the user an UI for changing the position.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 52472] Position of newly created Comment in Drawing is always 0, 0 at top left

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 52472] Position of newly created Comment in Drawing is always 0, 0 at top left

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--- Comment #11 from Yousuf Philips (jay)  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #10)
> Nothing is done automatically, so no screenshot. But it makes no sense to
> add a markup somewhere, like at 0,0, without any link to the object.

Well the comment isnt always about an object, it could be about something you
need to add to the page or a comment left by someone reviewing it that the page
size is wrong, so where else would you put it. Ideally if you select an object
and insert a comment, it should place the comment near the selected object, but
as the comment position cant be linked to the object, moving the object wont
move comment with it.

@Regina, @Stuart, @Cor: Your thoughts?

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 52472] Position of newly created Comment in Drawing is always 0, 0 at top left

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--- Comment #10 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Yousuf Philips (jay) from comment #9)
> So in balsamiq its placed at the object. Please provide a screenshot.

Nothing is done automatically, so no screenshot. But it makes no sense to add a
markup somewhere, like at 0,0, without any link to the object.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 52472] Position of newly created Comment in Drawing is always 0, 0 at top left

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--- Comment #9 from Yousuf Philips (jay)  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #8)
> Yes, shown as small rectangle with a number. And that's why it should be
> placed at the object.

So in balsamiq its placed at the object. Please provide a screenshot.

> An option to hide those markups would be nice, though.

View > Comments. :D

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 52472] Position of newly created Comment in Drawing is always 0, 0 at top left

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[Bug 107431] [META] Comment bugs and enhancements
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 52472] Position of newly created Comment in Drawing is always 0, 0 at top left

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--- Comment #8 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Yousuf Philips (jay) from comment #7)
> I assume comments are similar to collapsible sticky notes in balsamiq...

Yes, shown as small rectangle with a number. And that's why it should be placed
at the object. An option to hide those markups would be nice, though.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 52472] Position of newly created Comment in Drawing is always 0, 0 at top left

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--- Comment #7 from Yousuf Philips (jay)  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #6)
> Disagree, that's what's reported here as an issue.

The reported issue here is that comments appear at the top left of the page and
the solution was to have them appear "on the right side of the pane", which is
equivalent to "completely outside of the page area". In comment 3 you stated
that they should be "at the object's center", which wasnt mentioned before and
doubt is a good idea.

> And when you add
> connecting lines from the comment (wherever placed) to the object you
> struggle with the drawing itself.

I assume comments are similar to collapsible sticky notes in balsamiq, so they
dont need to be connected by lines, but lets here from experts like regina who
likely use the feature and can give their opinion on how and what they are used
for.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 52472] Position of newly created Comment in Drawing is always 0, 0 at top left

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--- Comment #6 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Yousuf Philips (jay) from comment #5)
> Or alternatively have them completely outside of the page area...

Disagree, that's what's reported here as an issue. And when you add connecting
lines from the comment (wherever placed) to the object you struggle with the
drawing itself.

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--- Comment #5 from Yousuf Philips (jay)  ---
Or alternatively have them completely outside of the page area, as that would
be useful for drawings with 0 page margins, and maybe place the margins in the
direction of the longest side of the page (e.g. in portrait made have the
comments go vertically from up to down).

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 52472] Position of newly created Comment in Drawing is always 0, 0 at top left

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--- Comment #4 from Yousuf Philips (jay)  ---
As comments are intended to be reminders placed out of the way for easy access,
having them in the margins is the best place for them rather than cluttering up
the drawing area. And LO is smart enough to place the next one not right on top
of the previous one, which is good UX. So for me, i'd say keep it as it is.

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--- Comment #3 from Heiko Tietze  ---
No more replies, so the recommendation is to place the comments at the object's
center. Removing needsUX from the keywords.

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--- Comment #2 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Sounds good, and easy to do. But you can move the objects around and the
comment is not sticky to it like in a group. Another question is how to deal
with multiple comments. It may get stacked, which has limitations, or
integrated into one so comments behave differently from Writer.
By the way: since Impress is just a hack on top of Draw the issue is relevant
there too.


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[Bug 100023] [META] Enhance Draw's user experience
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--- Comment #1 from Beluga todven...@suomi24.fi ---
I confirm this and set as enhancement - I think it's a good suggestion.

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