[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 53878] FILESAVE, EasyHack: Size of XML files can been reduced by using default namespaces on certain elements

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--- Comment #6 from Nicholas Shanks  ---
Sorry for the delay on this one — I left the relevant company, no longer need
to use/output OpenOffice files, and have been ignoring related emails. If you
want to send me any current XML file I'll perform some manual optimisation of
the XML and send it back. It's nothing that couldn't be done by any XML-savvy
coder though.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 53878] FILESAVE, EasyHack: Size of XML files can been reduced by using default namespaces on certain elements

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Adolfo Jayme f...@libreoffice.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Whiteboard|needsDevEval|needsDevEval
   ||difficultyBeginner

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 53878] FILESAVE, EasyHack: Size of XML files can been reduced by using default namespaces on certain elements

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Adolfo Jayme f...@libreoffice.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Whiteboard|NeedsDevEval|needsDevEval
   |DifficultyBeginner  |

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 53878] FILESAVE, EasyHack: Size of XML files can been reduced by using default namespaces on certain elements

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Robinson Tryon (qubit) qu...@runcibility.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
 CC||qu...@runcibility.com
 Ever confirmed|0   |1

--- Comment #3 from Robinson Tryon (qubit) qu...@runcibility.com ---
(In reply to Nicholas Shanks from comment #1)
 Microsoft Excel cannot read documents with default namespaces (and maybe
 even documents where the namespace is not the normal string). I suspect they
 are not using a real XML parser :-(

Well that's unfortunate!

 I think Excel compatability should be a higher priority than file size.
 

True, but I think the devs are going to be reticent to maintain two FILESAVE
codepaths. Some alternative ideas:

1) Perhaps the most recent version of MS-Office uses a real XML parser.
Knock on wood!

2) Microsoft attends ODF Plugfests (e.g.
http://plugfest.opendocumentformat.org/2014-london/), so concerns such as this
one could definitely be raised.

Let's test again w/MS-Office, and see where we stand. In any case, it's a neat
idea for a space-saving enhancement. Let's change Status - NEW

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 53878] FILESAVE, EasyHack: Size of XML files can been reduced by using default namespaces on certain elements

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--- Comment #4 from Robinson Tryon (qubit) qu...@runcibility.com ---
(In reply to Nicholas Shanks from comment #1)
 Microsoft Excel cannot read documents with default namespaces (and maybe
 even documents where the namespace is not the normal string). I suspect they
 are not using a real XML parser :-(

Could you please upload a couple sample files? It would be great to have the
original file (without default namespace) alongside the file that uses a
default namespace, so we can check them side-by-side.

Thanks!

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 53878] FILESAVE, EasyHack: Size of XML files can been reduced by using default namespaces on certain elements

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Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Whiteboard|ProposedEasyHack|NeedsDevEval
   |DifficultyBeginner  |DifficultyBeginner
 CC||jmadero@gmail.com

--- Comment #2 from Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com ---
In order to limit the confusion between ProposedEasyHack and EasyHack and to
make queries much easier we are changing ProposedEasyHack to NeedsDevEval.

Thank you and apologies for the noise

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 53878] FILESAVE, EasyHack: Size of XML files can been reduced by using default namespaces on certain elements

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Jorendc joren.libreoff...@telenet.be changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Whiteboard|EasyHack DifficultyBeginner |ProposedEasyHack
   ||DifficultyBeginner

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 53878] FILESAVE, EasyHack: Size of XML files can been reduced by using default namespaces on certain elements

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Bug 53878 depends on bug 53998, which changed state.

Bug 53998 Summary: FILESAVE, MS-COMPAT: Two codepaths necessary, one 'pure' and 
one for MS Office compatability
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53998

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 53878] FILESAVE, EasyHack: Size of XML files can been reduced by using default namespaces on certain elements

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Nicholas Shanks nicksha...@nickshanks.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Severity|minor   |enhancement
   Priority|medium  |lowest
 Depends on||53998

--- Comment #1 from Nicholas Shanks nicksha...@nickshanks.com 2012-08-24 
09:02:47 UTC ---
Not such a good idea after all.

Microsoft Excel cannot read documents with default namespaces (and maybe even
documents where the namespace is not the normal string). I suspect they are not
using a real XML parser :-(


The error Excel found unreadable content in 'filename'. Do you want to recover
the contents of this workbook? is shown.
Accepting the offer to recover the document's contents strips out all
formatting and styles.

I think Excel compatability should be a higher priority than file size.

Perhaps there could be two FILESAVE codepaths, a 'pure' one for adhering to the
specs and writing sexy XML, and another for emitting 'MS Office compatable'
OpenDocument files (bug #53998 filed requesting such).
This feature request would then apply to the sexy code path only.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 53878] FILESAVE, EasyHack: Size of XML files can been reduced by using default namespaces on certain elements

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Nicholas Shanks nicksha...@nickshanks.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

  Status Whiteboard||EasyHack DifficultyBeginner

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