[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 57466] Change in UI user configuration will cause new UI items in next versions of LibreOffice to be invisible, when that previous userprofile is used

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*** Bug 138578 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 57466] Change in UI user configuration will cause new UI items in next versions of LibreOffice to be invisible, when that previous userprofile is used

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--- Comment #24 from Alex Thurgood  ---
So here we are in 2020, and this is still an issue. See the duplicate bug
132905 that I just closed. 

The new table styles are only available after creation of a new profile. This
should not be necessary.

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*** Bug 132905 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 57466] Change in UI user configuration will cause new UI items in next versions of LibreOffice to be invisible , when that previous userprofile is used

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--- Comment #22 from lo-b...@vmc-konstanz.de ---
I can't talk about styles etc. but for GUI customization, the approach should
be IMHO:

1. try to merge
2. if that fails: inform user

I don't think you need to ask the user for confirmation. For starters, this
complicates the update process: you need to have detailed information available
in every language and the UI gets more complicated. Also, users with standard
menus don't get asked either, so why ask this particular group?

In most cases, merging should work fine - you simply traverse the list of root
menus, menu items, sidebars.. etc. in the user's xml configuration file until
you find your anchor point ("add forms menu before tools menu") and then add
the new item.

In some cases (menu items, toolbar buttons), this might fail if the user
removed everything the update process specifies as an anchor - in that case,
add the new item at the end of the target menu/toolbar - perhaps show a quick
notification?

This approach should only fail if the user manually edited xml files, e.g. he
removed the entire "View" menu with a text editor (you can't do this using the
GUI) and the update process wants to add a new item to this menu. In that case,
a simple warning that LO tried to update some part of the GUI but the file
path/to/foo.xml seems to be either broken or manually tempered with plus a link
to the release notes should do the job.

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--- Comment #21 from Maxim Monastirsky  ---
*** Bug 115598 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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--- Comment #20 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Chandanathil P. Geevan from comment #19)
Good idea. Alternatively we could ask what to do (override, merge, ignore) for
new features. Or we just override the system default and keep what the user
creates in his space, like for other stuff. But the table styles are taken from
the user space only. Anyway, developers are welcome... ;-)

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--- Comment #19 from Chandanathil P. Geevan  ---
Why not consider this: keep two separate set of files as in a) standard
dictionary + customised (added words), b) bundled templates + customised
templates c) standard autocorrect list + user-defined list d) standard document
format styles + user-defined  That is more structured approach than
merging. Merging could lead to problems.

When an update/upgrade is performed, rename the existing files to filename_old
and copy the updated files.
Add option to use standard ones plus what was there in the previous version.

This could be one way to keep both old and new.

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[Bug 107636] [META] User profile (user data/settings) bugs and enhancements
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[Bug 115518] [META] Old user profile causing problems when upgrading to new
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--- Comment #18 from Cor Nouws  ---
I think configuration stuff over more modules typically belongs to framework

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*** Bug 99716 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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--- Comment #16 from Cor Nouws  ---
in short: it's extremely complicated

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--- Comment #15 from Yousuf (Jay) Philips  ---
I mentioned this issue when it came to the new toolbars introduced in 4.4 that
may users werent seeing the new buttons because they had modified their
toolbars and suggest to the ESC that in 5.0 we should move to a new user
profile number, but they chose not to agree because of the problems that
occurred when the user profile directory was changed when LO 4.0 was released.
So now this issue will be affecting toolbars, menus and also sidebars.

The sidebar issue was brought up in ESC this week and they concluded "creating
new user profiles is not a great solution. => put it in a bug."

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--- Comment #14 from Cor Nouws  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #13)

> It's an enhancement, we have made no proposal yet, and the issue affects the
> user experience. I would call for UX when only one of these is true.

OK, but I would guess that the need is : show new items and merge custom
changes from previous versions (and show conflict data..)

/me now hiding for @sbergman's comment  ;)

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--- Comment #13 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #12)
> (Not sure why this needs ux-advice in CC, by the way)

It's an enhancement, we have made no proposal yet, and the issue affects the
user experience. I would call for UX when only one of these is true.

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Summary|Change in menu (user|Change in UI user
   |configuration) will cause   |configuration will cause
   |new menu items in next  |new UI items in next
   |versions of LibreOffice to  |versions of LibreOffice to
   |be invisible, when the  |be invisible, when that
   |userprofile is migrated |previous userprofile is
   |from the previous version   |used

--- Comment #12 from Cor Nouws  ---
yep ..
(Not sure why this needs ux-advice in CC, by the way)

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