[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 58654] Polish spelling dictionary is missing in the LO install package and LO Extension repository

2012-12-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58654

--- Comment #7 from VX vangeli...@aol.com ---
Urmas, thank you very much for the comprehensive explanation. 

Yes, the proofing tools seem unintuitive for me, but I hope things will get
improved with future LO releases. 

As far as the missing extension in LO Extensions repository, should I fill in
another bug report for that? 

You can grab the original extension from Apache OpenOffice repository:
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/pl-dict
I believe it's worth to have this extension in LO Extensions as well.

May the timeless message of Christmas fill your heart and home with joy today
and throughout the coming year.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 58654] Polish spelling dictionary is missing in the LO install package and LO Extension repository

2012-12-24 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Urmas davian...@gmail.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |INVALID

--- Comment #6 from Urmas davian...@gmail.com ---
'Standard' and 'IgnoreAll' dictionaries are created automatically during the
first spell check.

The US dictionary contains some of technical terms and is present in each LO
installation because the entire world is limited with USA for opensores
developers.

Slovenian dictionary shouldn't be there, but it cannot be presently removed due
to developers' incompetence.

If you find the proofing tools module list unintuitive, please create a
separate enhancement request.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 58654] Polish spelling dictionary is missing in the LO install package and LO Extension repository

2012-12-23 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #2 from Urmas davian...@gmail.com ---
Polish spelling works for me in 3.6 .

 Spell checking is broken entirely in 4.0 so far. 

So your problem is that you select the Polish dictionary for install, but it
doesn't get installed?

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 58654] Polish spelling dictionary is missing in the LO install package and LO Extension repository

2012-12-23 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58654

--- Comment #3 from VX vangeli...@aol.com ---
 So your problem is that you select the Polish dictionary for install, but it
 doesn't get installed?

I. OK, I'll try to provide a complete procedure to reproduce the bug. 
Steps to reproduce:

1. Download LibreOffice from https://www.libreoffice.org/download
My OS is Windows 7 64bit Polish, so: LibreOffice Windows, version 3.6.4, Polish
is chosen for me to download automatically. If you have a different OS, you
should manually change system, version or language and choose Polish one for
testing purposes.

2. Install the file 'LibO_3.6.4_Win_x86_install_multi' with user defined
options.
Do not change any settings but make sure that in 'Optional
components'/'Dictionaries' there are German, Polish and Russian ones selected
by default (I assume this is a default option when you choose the Standard
installation as well and it doesn't rely on the operating system language
settings on Windows but I might be wrong about it). Continue the installation
with suggested settings.

3. When LO is installed, go to Tools (Narzędzia)/ Options (Opcje)/ Language
settings (Ustawienia językowe) /Writing Aids (Pisownia) and make sure which
dictionaries are installed. There are some English dictionaries (during the
installation process LO claims to install Polish,German and Russian ones!) and
- to my surprise - there is SL-Slovenian dictionary instead of PL-Polish one!
But where are the dictionaries for Polish, German and Russian that were claimed
to be installed during the installation process?

4. Open LO Writer and type a random polish word with spelling mistake. To my
surprise this time the error was underlined (it wasn't in some previous
versions that I tested before) and I was given suggestions to correct it.
After selecting  the underlined word I pressed 'F7' and I could choose the
language for the text with the following options: Polish, German (3 variants of
dictionaries), and Russian. 
Eureka! 
It seems that spell checker for Polish works with this version for me, and I've
finally found the dictionaries that I had expected to find in Language
settings/ Writing aids. 

So the issue is somehow resolved, but do you really think the current solution
is perfect?

A. If I could find  these dictionaries in the Tools/Options/Language
settings/Writing aids I could enable/disable it depending on my needs. But it's
impossible with the current release.

B. Pressing 'F7' key brings the window with various options for spell checking,
but I can't find the dictionaries that were accessible from the Language
settings/Writing aids menu, namely dictionaries for English and Slovenian to
give some examples.

C. Don't you think these two places for various Language tools should be
combined into one for better consistency ?!

D. Why some dictionaries are installed with default installation and user can't
manage nor use them after installation (SL-Slovenian in this case - the
installer didn't show it to be installed, so it's a bit surprising)?

IMHO, LibreOffice language settings menu is completely unintuitive, messy and
should be redesigned for better consistency (what is shown in the options
during the installation, in the Language settings options and in the
Autocorrect ('F7') window should be consistent and don't mislead nor surprise
users. 

Furthermore, there is an Extension for LO called LanguageTool
http://languagetool.org/ , which gives much better results for vast majority of
the supported languages than extensions distributed with the LibreOffice
installer. I know it requires Java, but I believe it could be better integrated
and distributed with the LO installer. Is there any way to use LanguageTool
rules with LO without Java?

II. Another issue is that there is no a Polish dictionary pack in the
LibreOffice Extensions repository, so it can't be installed with LO Extension
manager, unless it's downloaded from Apache OpenOffice repository (see the link
in my entry comment)and installed manually. Some users don't know about this
solution and keep complaining about broken support for this.

Thank you very much for reading and considering.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 58654] Polish spelling dictionary is missing in the LO install package and LO Extension repository

2012-12-23 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #4 from Urmas davian...@gmail.com ---
Try this: Go to 'Writing aids' tab, select 'Hunspell SpellChecker' in the TOP
list, and press 'Modify' button; do you see Polish language in the combobox on
top of the new dialog which would open? For it there should be three components
checked: Hunspell SpellChecker, Libhyphen Hyphenator and OpenOffice.org New
Thesaurus. Are they all three available and checked?

The MIDDLE list is for custom (user) dictionaries.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 58654] Polish spelling dictionary is missing in the LO install package and LO Extension repository

2012-12-23 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #5 from VX vangeli...@aol.com ---
(In reply to comment #4)
 Try this: Go to 'Writing aids' tab, select 'Hunspell SpellChecker' in the
 TOP list, and press 'Modify' button; do you see Polish language in the
 combobox on top of the new dialog which would open? For it there should be
 three components checked: Hunspell SpellChecker, Libhyphen Hyphenator and
 OpenOffice.org New Thesaurus. Are they all three available and checked?

Urmas, thank you very much for the hint. You are obviously right! All the
dictionaries are there and all are checked for me. I can find the German and
Russian dictionaries there as well. Thank you for your help. 
I wish the LO interface was more intuitive as not all users are curious what
'Hunspell SpellChecker' is and want to modify it in order to find something
that is expected to find in much easier way...

As for Russian dictionaries, which are available form the drop down list, there
is 'Lightproof Grammar Checker (ru-Ru)' under Grammar section. The same tool is
listed right below the 'Hunspell SpellChecker' in the 'Writing aids' section.
Don't you think this is inconsistent? To find other dictionaries you have to
select 'Hunspell SpellChecker' in the TOP list, and press 'Modify' button.

 The MIDDLE list is for custom (user) dictionaries.
I see. But could you tell me:
A. What is 'standard' dictionary on the top of this list and why it's unchecked
by default?
B. Why English dictionaries (GB and US ones) are on the middle list and not
allongside German, Polish and Russian ones? I haven't installed it by myself.
This is inconsistent as well.
C. Is the Slovenian dictionary available in other multi-language versions of LO
installer and is it installed by default under user dictionaries as it is in
LibreOffice with Polish UI?

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