[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 61743] : Wrongly Absolute Path Referencing Across Documents

2013-03-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61743

Rainer Bielefeld libreoff...@bielefeldundbuss.de changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEEDINFO|ASSIGNED
   Assignee|libreoffice-b...@lists.free |LibreOffice@bielefeldundbus
   |desktop.org |s.de

--- Comment #5 from Rainer Bielefeld libreoff...@bielefeldundbuss.de ---
I got additional detailed and structured info how to reproduce the problem from
Wolfgang, so that I now am able to reproduce his observations. It's easy, but
currently I only see the effect without any ideas concerning the roots. I
should be able to contribute a much simplified test kit and step by step
instruction tomorrow. With that kit it will be easy to do more tests (OS?
Started with Version?, ...)
So I assign Bug to myself for this work.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 61743] : Wrongly Absolute Path Referencing Across Documents

2013-03-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61743

Rainer Bielefeld libreoff...@bielefeldundbuss.de changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|ASSIGNED|NEW
   Assignee|LibreOffice@bielefeldundbus |libreoffice-b...@lists.free
   |s.de|desktop.org
 CC||er...@redhat.com,
   ||kohei.yosh...@suse.de,
   ||markus.mohrhard@googlemail.
   ||com

--- Comment #7 from Rainer Bielefeld libreoff...@bielefeldundbuss.de ---
@Spreadsheet Team:
Comment 6 Step by step instruction shows how to reproduce easily.
Of course some additional tests (what's with different OS, strange side effects
 and so on) can be done, but may be with your code knowledge you can do most of
that more efficient? Please tell us if you still need more results normal users
can contribute!

Please change  Status to ASSIGNED and add yourself to Assigned To if you
accept this Bug or forward the Bug if it's not your turf (and remove others in
team from CC).

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 61743] : Wrongly Absolute Path Referencing Across Documents

2013-03-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61743

--- Comment #4 from Wolfgang j...@psilosoph.de ---
@ Rainer Bielefeld
We should avoid misunderstandings about our attitude and our intentions. 
Therefore I retire (temporarily) from commenting this thread. 
I sent a PN.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 61743] : Wrongly Absolute Path Referencing Across Documents

2013-03-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61743

Rainer Bielefeld libreoff...@bielefeldundbuss.de changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEEDINFO
 CC||LibreOffice@bielefeldundbus
   ||s.de
 Ever confirmed|0   |1

--- Comment #1 from Rainer Bielefeld libreoff...@bielefeldundbuss.de ---
@reporter (In reply to comment #0):
Thank you for your report – unfortunately important information is missing.
May be hints on http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport will help you to
find out what information will be useful to reproduce your problem? 
Please add all information requested in following:
- Write a meaningful Summary describing exactly what the problem is
- Attach a test kit with source and target sample document (not only 
  screenshot) or refer to an existing sample document in an other Bug 
  with a link; to attach a file to this 
  bug report, just click on Add an attachment right on this page.
- Attach screenshots with comments if you believe that that might explain the 
  problem better than a text comment. Best way is to insert your screenshots
  into a DRAW document and to add comments that explain what you want to show
  (attachment 68877, attachment 68490)
- Contribute a document related step by step instruction containing every 
  key press and every mouse click how to reproduce your problem 
  (similar to example in Bug 43431)
– if possible contribute an instruction how to create a sample document 
  from the scratch
- add information 
  -- what EXACTLY is unexpected
 Does it look absolute, or do you really get problems when you rename
 the folder?)
  -- and WHY do you believe it's unexpected (cite Help or Documentation!)
  -- concerning your PC 
  -- concerning your Operating System (Version, Distribution, Language)
  -- concerning your LibO version localization (UI language, Locale setting)
  –- Libo settings that might be related to your problems 
 (menu 'Tools - Options - Load/Save - General - Links relative to 
 file system?)
  -- how you launch LibO and how you opened the sample document
  –- Whether your problem persists when you renamed your user profile 
 before you launch LibO (please see
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile#User_profile_location)
  -- Whether that worked in former LibO Verions or AOOo / OOo
  -- everything else crossing your mind after you read linked texts

Please keep in mind that you should not talk about what you see but to describe
 how we can reproduce the problem.

Please always give hint what seems unexpected to you. It's really too hard to
examine your long links and to try to find out what might be unexpected for
you.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 61743] : Wrongly Absolute Path Referencing Across Documents

2013-03-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61743

--- Comment #2 from Wolfgang j...@psilosoph.de ---

### Restart ###

See also ZIP:
http://psilosoph.de/LibO_BugReports/61743/61743LibO_Calc_BugReport_AbsoluteInsteadOfRelativePathsIfRangesNamed.zip

On my PC with
OS: Win XP Professional 2002 SP3 32 Bits Germnan locale
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ , 2.01 GHz, 1.00GiB RAM

the following steps were performed. 

Already designed was a triple of Calc-documents. 
These were part of a little project initiated by the questions of a user in the
forum 'http://en.libreofficeforum.org/forum/apps/calc'.

The final document 'WochenKalender002.ods' takes over values from
'Bearbeitet_AGr_NT_MaK003.ods' by formulas and so does the second document from
'HerrnhuterLosungenFree 2013.ods'. 

LibreOffice Calc was Ver 3.6.4.3, English UI and function names. 
The options 'Save URLs relative to file system / internet' were both activated. 

1) On an USB stick drive (in my case G:) in the first level directory
'OtherDocs'
the tree (German locale)
Auflistung der Ordnerpfade für Volume TOSHIBA
Volumenummer: ...
G:.
| 
+---CalcBugs
|   | 
|   +---1st Other Path Step 1 Addressed
|   |   \---NewWorkingFolder
|   | 
|   +---AbsoluteInsteadOfRelative Named
|   | 
|   \---2nd Other Path Step 1 Named
|   \---NewWorkingFolder
| 
+---tmp
|   ...

was created. 
2) From a folder on my drive 'D:' where it was developed the triple of linked
files of which 
the project consists was packed into a .zip (with WinZIP 9.0) named
'KalenderTripel20130302CalendarByAddressedRanges.zip'. 
The 'WochenKalender002.ods' contained in this zip file was finally put in a
version avoiding named ranges in certain formulas because some days ago a bug
had occurred if named ranges were used.
3) The zip file was copied to the folders 
'G:\OtherDocs\CalcBugs\AbsoluteInsteadOfRelative Named' and
'G:\OtherDocs\CalcBugs\1st Other Path Step 1 Addressed\NewWorkingFolder' . 
4) In the first one of these folders the files were extracte from the zip,
opened in the order 'Herrn...', 'Bearb...' and 'Wochen...' with updating the
links and the correct function was tested.
5) The formulas in the cells E4 and E5 of the sheet 'DruckWochenblatt' of the
document 'WochenKalender002' were now edited changing a total of 4 parts (2 in
each formula):
Replace the addressed range '$ZuordSchluessel.$AL$11:$AP$8010
by the named range 'nrAGrVerse' !
Replace the addressed range '$ZuordSchluessel.$K$11:$K$8010
by the named range 'nrKalenderTage' (occurs in both formulas)!
Replace the addressed range '$ZuordSchluessel.$L$11:$L$8010
by the named range 'nrStellen' !
Each of these ranges occurs exclusively following the '#' as target inside the
file 
'Bearbeitet_AGr_NT_MaK003.ods' existing in its then directory path described as
'file:///G:/OtherDocs/CalcBugs/AbsoluteInsteadOfRelative Named' .
Inside the file the addressed ranges and the named ranges respectively denote
exactly the same references.
6) The edited document was saved under unchanged name.
7) The two unchanged documents and the edited one were now zipped into 
'KalenderTripel20130302CalendarByNamedRanges.zip' and this file was copied to 
'G:\OtherDocs\CalcBugs\2nd Other Path Step 1 Named\NewWorkingFolder' .
8) The 'Addressed' version was unzipped and tested in its NewWorkingFolder.
All Files and LibreOffice were closed again.
9) Same procedure performed with the 'Named' version in its dedicated folder.
10) The results were as formerly described: 
In the cell E4 the expression could not be evaluated because the MATCH part
contained the now wrong absolute path to the former location where the file did
no longer exist. 
11) NotaBene: EXACTLY the same MATCH part occurred in E5. There the path was
correctly saved in relative mode.
12) Imagine this file existed still but was for some purpose changed!
13) It's really a problem of reliability, too.

Finally the (malfunctioning) version of the project (using named ranges) was
also tested with Portable LibreOffice Ver. 4.0.0.3, German UI and function
names. 

Same result.

All files closed
LibreOffice closed
Unzipped files deleted
Tree containing the zip files and the LibO Writer document containing this text
zipped into
'LibO_Calc_BugReport_AbsoluteInsteadOfRelativePathsIfRangesNamed.zip'

This text added to new comment to Bug Report #61743
Zip file attached
comment posted

Thank you for caring!

PS 
Of course I might be as well more concise and more precise if writing about
this in German.

### Another Kind Of Reply ###

Dear expert!

Thank you very much for your quick reaction. 
I really appreciate that there are experts fighting bugs. 

In this case I experienced a bug that I find annoying though it occurred only
during work on one project - and this not being one that might get critical
for me but one that I undertook to help a guy who asked a question in the
LibreOfffice Calc forum. 

Unfortunately I did obviously not succeed in describing the problem precisely. 

You complained my 

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 61743] : Wrongly Absolute Path Referencing Across Documents

2013-03-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61743

--- Comment #3 from Rainer Bielefeld libreoff...@bielefeldundbuss.de ---
I gambled a little, fond an error message in 
..\2nd Other Path Step 1 Named\NewWorkingFolder\WochenKalender002.ods, of
cousre in Sheet DruckWochenblatt Cell E5 I see the reference to drive G:, but
no idea what that should tell me, ...
May be someone else is willing to try to find out what the problem is? I will
not do before we have a description for what less than 1 wee holidays is needed
to understand.

@Wolfgang:
There seems some misunderstanding. We do not need lots of information, we need
relevant information. There is no need to run a complete universe simulation to
show what happens if you turn a water glass. Simply put the glass on a table
and turn it.
As long as your report does not look like following (and is not much longer)
you are doing something wrong. Most important: Do not tell what you did, tell
what we have to do to reproduce the problem with your test kit.

--- Example 
1. Unzip testkit, copy folder testkit into root folder c:\
2. Open document C:\testkit\xyz.ods
3. Check Cell A3, should show value 12345, linked from document in 
   C:\testkit\subfolder\uvw.ods,  Cell A3
4. Close all documents
5. rename folder testkit to testkit1
6. redo analogous from step 2
   Expected: In step 3 cell A3 still shows 12345
   Actual: A3 shows message Error:xyz

How to create problem-links:
11. In  C:\testkit\subfolder1\uvw.ods, Cell A4:
12. do this
13. do that
14. and so on
15. close all documents
16. rename folder testkit1 to testkit2
17. Open, check,
Expeced

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