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--- Comment #40 from redwdc  ---
Just to add my 2 cents.

1) The current general layout for the "Chart Wizard" is fine, though it may
need to be resized for any extra layouts and/or have tabs added.

2) It would be nice to be able use one line point style and/or select which of
multiple point styles are used.  This may require an extra tab or a popup or
something like that.  (To be very extravagant add custom graphics for line
points.)

3) Be able to define which font/s is/are used.  This should be on it's own tab.

4) Be able to re-open the "Chart Wizard" by the right click context menu on an
existing chart.

5) Save chart layouts as templates.  This could either be in the wizard or as
on option on the right click context menu.

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--- Comment #39 from Zak McKracken  ---
I'm quite interested in having styles for charts, as that could make LO a lot
more efficient to work with. I'm usually quite busy generating plots, rather
than discussing software, but I'm finding myself with a few weeks' time, so I'd
be interested in helping out if/where I can.

I've not programmed anything in C++ (but am reasonably seasoned in Python,
including GUI programming, if that helps at all), and I've been using all sorts
of graphing software in the past, from Excel annd openOffice 1.0 through
Libreoffice 6, Paraview, Fieldview, Tecplot, Matplotlib, Gnuplot ... so I'd
like to think I have some capacity to compare their implementations of
formatting templates.

I'm not sure where the process is at the moment, and if the below helps (if
not, feel free to ignore), but I thought it might be useful to give some more
examples of how this works in other software, both as an inspiration and maybe
also as an indication of how useful a feature it can be.

Tecplot is one of the biggest players in the scientific plotting market, so I
think taking a look and learning from them is reasonable. And actually, I think
it's fairly straightforward to improve on their approach, although it's
reasonably good, in that it stores plots as "layout" files, which contain the
formatting separate from the data (and can even have it in separate files), and
allows replacing a layout but keeping the data, or replacing data and keeping
the layout. Layouts are specified in some kind of scripting language (the same
it used for user scripts), which can include formatting of non-existent
elements. Although this is (sadly!) not officially supported, the default
formatting choices are stored in a user-editable file and with a little trial &
failure, a user can edit this to include their most frequent formatting
choices. This used to be a huge time saver for me until the next version broke
compatibility...).
pros:
* keep data, change layout
* can be used to get good defaults
* layout can have settings for all plot types and elements, independent of
whether they're visible in a particular plot. So if you format a line plot,
then switch to scatter, the line-plot formatting is still there.
cons:
* editing global defaults is tedious
* layout choices are specific: Over-loading another layout changes only
elements present when layout was specified (i.e. if there are 3 data series in
the data but only 2 in the layout, the third will use global default style -- a
layout can't specify "all plotted lines have thickness X", except in global
defaults)


Another example: Matplotlib, the core plotting library for Python. It has next
to no GUI, and is used via Python code, but I like the principle it uses. In
most cases when I used it (and having been confined to Python 2.0 with no time
to read the docs properly), I always copied a bunch of formatting code around
to get consistent looks for my plots (still a time saver vs. having to remember
the arguments for plotting functions...), but in current implementation, style
sheets are a blessing:
https://matplotlib.org/3.2.0/gallery/style_sheets/style_sheets_reference.html
They define all possible elements (or a subset of them), and allow visually
consistent plots of all kinds without specifying the same formatting choices
for all of them over and over again. There's a set of style sheets that comes
with matplotlib, but the user can make and specify their own.
This means that I can generate publication-ready plots much quicker, and if
different forms of publication require different formatting, that's only one
update to the style sheet, and re-running the script to generate the charts.
Very little work, and no way to accidentally forget to change that one axis
label...

Pros:
* ... everything. I think this is my favourite implementation of styles for
plots. Matplotlib can control pretty much anything ever using them (as far as I
have explored it so far). If someone made all matplotlib functionality
available in a good GUI with saving/loading of graphs and data, that would be
my favourite graphing software, by a long shot.

Cons:
* ...small nitpicks. I've written too much already.


Feel free to contact me if you think I can make some useful contribution.

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--- Comment #38 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Gagandeep Singh from comment #37)
> I have been discussing with Markus about this, and we have come to a
> ...the logical level handling of the chart style is most important
> ...
> I will probably be implementing a very limited ui in sidebar deck

Excellent, happy to review all aspects from UX POV. The actual UI is a "piece
of cake", much more important is to have a clean implementation and scope. Eg.
styles should be created, modified, deleted but also saved, loaded and ideally
shared per extension. And before this step you have to solve all the internal
handling, which might be good enough for a nice summer.

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--- Comment #37 from Gagandeep Singh  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #36)
> (In reply to Gagandeep Singh from comment #35)
> > I want to work on this feature as GSOC project...
> 
> That's great to hear. Sorry that I cannot help with the code pointer (adding
> the all-knowing Samuel for that) for sidebar but please consider this too
> [1], although not _style_ related in narrow sense. 
> 
> [1] https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/2015/04/16/insertchart/

Hi,

I have been discussing with Markus about this, and we have come to a conclusion
that the logical level handling of the chart style is most important currently,
and I myself have realized the scope of that part of the project added with 
including import/export of styles from files. Thus, I will probably be
implementing a very limited ui in sidebar deck offering only a selection list
for styles to be chosen from.

Sorry, but I asked this question only through my ignorance. Still looking
forward to an exciting summer working on the chart styles :)

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--- Comment #36 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Gagandeep Singh from comment #35)
> I want to work on this feature as GSOC project...

That's great to hear. Sorry that I cannot help with the code pointer (adding
the all-knowing Samuel for that) for sidebar but please consider this too [1],
although not _style_ related in narrow sense. 

[1] https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/2015/04/16/insertchart/

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--- Comment #35 from Gagandeep Singh  ---
Hi,

I want to work on this feature as GSOC project and for the same I have been
talking to Markus Mohrhard, he has given me pointers to the logical handling of
the styles in chart2 module.

For the GUI part after reading the comments I see that the sidebar
implementation is preferred of chart styles. Can I get some documentation
regarding how sidebar in libreoffice works.

I see sidebar code in sfx2 and svx, though a bit more detail would help me with
my proposal in understanding the capabilities of sidebar for this task.


Thanks in Advance !!

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--- Comment #32 from Pedro  ---
Looks nice. I would like just to suggest that Data Range and Data series could
be merged in the same tab.

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--- Comment #31 from Cor Nouws  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #30)

> The styles "switcher" is the topmost control at the properties deck in
> Writer, affecting all the properties below. Don't get the "seventh" option
> thing.

The panel Styles and Formatting now has six buttons top left.
But I see you mean the panel Properties. Sorry.
Why that one, and not Styles and Formatting?
The latter also exists in Calc and Impress/Draw.
In the properties panel, the properties shown are the ones of the place where
the cursor is. That can the the styles properties, but may also be direct
formatting. So the properties controls do not directly change a style.

> Don't talk about a dialog at this moment. Imagine a style "Yellow" that
> changes the background color of the chart but you have the series selected.
> This unclear situation bothers me, and made me prefer the extra deck.

I expect a chart style to be a set of properties - as written in comment #28.
So style "yellow" should have more impact than only the background.

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--- Comment #30 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Gerry from comment #28)
> Of course, one probably cannot implement all these elements at the
> beginning, but please keep in mind that chart styles can comprise a number
> of different elements.

We have to follow the ODF specs that defines what styles are. There is a
volunteer interested in doing the work - that's why we have progress here - and
he wanted to implement styles and not just a color swatch, for example.

(In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #29)
> You mean a seventh option top left in the tool bar of Styles and Formatting?

The styles "switcher" is the topmost control at the properties deck in Writer,
affecting all the properties below. Don't get the "seventh" option thing.

> But that does not prevent styles to be listed and changed with a properties
> dialog?

Don't talk about a dialog at this moment. Imagine a style "Yellow" that changes
the background color of the chart but you have the series selected. This
unclear situation bothers me, and made me prefer the extra deck.

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--- Comment #29 from Cor Nouws  ---
Hi Heiko,

(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #27)

> We have access to properties from the sidebar. So option a) could be to
> place a control for style selection on top likewise it's done for text

You mean a seventh option top left in the tool bar of Styles and Formatting?

> styles. Drawback is that many properties are shown dependent on context,
> ...

But that does not prevent styles to be listed and changed with a properties
dialog?

Possibly I misunderstand you :)

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--- Comment #28 from Gerry  ---
It's great to see some movement on the development of chart styles. Thanks in
advance.

If I look at different chart style implementations, e.g. Stata and Excel, chart
styles can determine a number of different elements:

* the color scheme (of results and text) or hatching scheme (of results)
* the existence, color and thickness of borders (e.g. border lines around bars
in a bar chart)
* the background color
* the existence borders around the chart area and legend
* the existence, position and text size/font of a legend
* the existence, position and text size/font of a title and or subtitle
* the existence, position and text size/font of notes below a chart

Of course, one probably cannot implement all these elements at the beginning,
but please keep in mind that chart styles can comprise a number of different
elements.

For more information see also: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Chart_styles

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--- Comment #27 from Heiko Tietze  ---
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Mockup for chart style

We have access to properties from the sidebar. So option a) could be to place a
control for style selection on top likewise it's done for text styles. Drawback
is that many properties are shown dependent on context, e.g. Line Style of grid
lines, Line Style of bars and Line Style of the background. So what we can do
here, is to clean up and show all together and rename and combine it properly.

Option b) is to introduce a second deck for chart styles similar to the styles
in Writer. Wouldn't be as prominent as it should be though the adoption to
chart styles in Writer might be easier. Issue is that still not all chart
properties are active in edit mode: for example the chart background color can
be set to none and the overall chart property for area to something else
(becomes active when not in edit mode).

For simplicity I would suggest to go with option b) and have a new sidebar deck
for chart styles including Fill Format Mode and New Style as known from Writer
ignoring the non-edit-mode properties.
To apply the style on creation we could introduce a fifth step in the chart
wizard where the user can select the style.

Supposed workflow for bug 90490 is to create a new style based on the current
selection and modify it. Since we do not have a all-in-one edit dialog yet as
requested in bug 90687 this wont work (for now).

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--- Comment #25 from Robert Orzanna orsch...@gmail.com ---
My request was referenced to be fitting to the discussion here. I also very
much like the request for pre-defined chart styles. I would ask you to consider
a pre-defined pattern style that can be applied to an entire chart so that
colourblind people have it easier to read the chart. 

Example of a pattern I am referring to:
http://support.sas.com/kb/45/addl/fusion_45663_1_fillpatterns1.png

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This is excellent news! 
I hope we get this feature soon. 
I willl keep fingers crossed that budget will be provided.

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   ||tion.org/Chart_styles

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I created a page for this bug Chart Styles on the Documentfoundation wiki in
order to collect ideas and updates with regards to this bug:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Chart_styles

Furthermore, there is some important movement: German and Swiss cities and
institutions fund dvelopment on this feature and they just opened a tender:
http://www.osb-alliance.de/working-groups/projekte/wichtige-funktionalitaeten-bei-loaoo/
(in German language)

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There is also a pdf in English that details the enhancements:
http://www.osb-alliance.de/fileadmin/Working_Groups/OfficeInteroperability/Project2/SpecificationMajorFeatureImprovements_final.pdf

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I would like to vote for this and other enhancement request I found here
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Vote_for_Enhancement#fdo.2336815_-_Advanced_printing_capabilities_of_comments

However, also reading the explanation Please add a short comment (1 line)
starting with # at the end of the list you want to support and sign with --
 . Good arguments have more influence than numerous votes. I cannot figure
what I need to do. 

Can I please have some voting-for-dummies advice?

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(In reply to comment #18)
 I would like to vote for this and other enhancement request I found here
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Vote_for_Enhancement#fdo.2336815_-
 _Advanced_printing_capabilities_of_comments
 
 However, also reading the explanation Please add a short comment (1 line)
 starting with # at the end of the list you want to support and sign with --
  . Good arguments have more influence than numerous votes. I cannot
 figure what I need to do. 
 
 Can I please have some voting-for-dummies advice?

# Be sincere

# Be concise but clear, not everyone could be experiencing your situation, nor
have the time to read a testament

# Don't be selfish, remember, you may need a feature, while other people would
prefer another.

# Don't use adjectives to exaggerate your request

# Etc.?

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*** Bug 74408 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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--- Comment #16 from bugquestcon...@online.de ---
As I needed create a larger number of charts in a company format, I looked here
to see how things are developing. 

Thanks to all who worked and work on this enhancement. I can offer testing if
needed.

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(In reply to comment #14)
 (In reply to comment #0)
  When a new chart needs to be created it always starts up with the default
  and hast to tune to the personal or company format needs. 
 
 You can copykpaste an existing one often and then drag a new data-range to
 it.
 
 Nevertheless: a very useful enhancement request!
 
 Cheers,
 Cor

That's not so easy: you must have already in the same spreadsheet a chart
formatted in the way you want. You cannot copy a formatted chart from another
file (though maybe you can insert that one sheet).

But yes, that's is what we do now ;-)

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*** Bug 62540 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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   What|Removed |Added

 Whiteboard|BSA |BSA VOTE

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As Francisco suggested, I added this bug to the Vote for Enhancement page on
the wiki:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Vote_for_Enhancement#Bug_62925_-_FORMATTING:_enhancement:_please_add_.22chart_styles.22_to_the_styles_of_Calc

Feel free to add your vote.

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--- Comment #14 from Cor Nouws c...@nouenoff.nl ---
(In reply to comment #0)
 When a new chart needs to be created it always starts up with the default
 and hast to tune to the personal or company format needs. 

You can copykpaste an existing one often and then drag a new data-range to it.

Nevertheless: a very useful enhancement request!

Cheers,
Cor

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   Severity|normal  |enhancement
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If I understand clearly, this report is the same / duplicate to Bug 62540
(which is reported earlier). Shouldn't we merge these to only 1 report?

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--- Comment #9 from Robert Pogson robert.pog...@gmail.com ---
I add my support for this request. I blog and do technical work using a lot of
charts. For blogging, I create the charts and then embed them in my website as
a fixed number of pixels. On a high-resolution screen, the image is often
barely readable using the defaults for titles, axes-labels, legends and
data-labels, so I have to adjust fonts repeatedly. It takes more time to
manually format the chart than it does to gather the data for the spreadsheet
and upload the image to the server. It is a major hit and I have to remember
the font-sizes for several categories of items and font-faces, or articles with
multiple charts look amateurish. It could be just one click to avoid a lot of
work and errors.

The newly added ability to export as SVG helps in quality but I still have to
work with font-size on one end and pixels on the other...

This is also an accessibility issue in that old eyes like mine need the larger
fonts. It's not only about convenience/productivity.

The whole idea of using XML in the file-format is to be able to separate style
from content. Not using that philosophy for charts and hard-coding these in the
software is something that should be fixed. Now that SVG is well supported,
this would make LibreOffice nearly perfect for what I do. If we cannot do this
with styling, please let us save and insert from templates. Saving the chart
styling in a whole-document template doesn't work because the data-ranges then
have to be edited and there might be a dozen of them.

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Could it be a good idea if anybody creates an entry in Vote vor enhancement
page?

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--- Comment #7 from bugquestcon...@online.de ---
Created attachment 83915
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proposed new chart style : StairsToTotal

As there are also new chart styles considered I would like to propose the style
Stairs to Total. A style I am using very often instead of stacked column
style to emphasis the gain for each step separately.
This is also very often to be seen in chart created by consulting companies.

Current creation requires additional data preparation and a lot of formating
work; thus very time consuming.

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Additional to comment 7

I feel that this is a great feature above MS Excel.

In Excel 2003 this style was not available; I missed it a lot. Could a newer
Excel version please be checked by someone who also has access to MS Excel
=2007?

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@Francisco - Thanks for looking into this matter and for your comments. Now I -
and I assume that there are many others waiting for this enhancement - can only
wait to see if there is a great volunteer who will tackle the topic.

This feature would - to the best of my knowledge - put Impress on the same and
maybe even a bit better level than PowerPoint. I remember that there are User
styles but this was not very satisfactory; at least for me.

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I was vivisecting an ODS file, trying to see how does LibO handle styles for
charts, since it's supposed that using ODF, you're using styles even if don't
want.
Charts content, as for any object are stored inside dirs Object #, where
there are 3 files: meta.xml, content.xml and styles.xml.

Interestingly, the file styles.xml doesn't store any style, but all styles
defined for charts are stored in content.xml around office:automatic-styles

It seems to be that this feature request will be more difficult to solve

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--- Comment #3 from Gerry gerry.trep...@googlemail.com ---
Bug 62540 describes something very similar. IMHO it is not exactly an exact
duplicate, but it might make sense to join the two bug entries. 

I put Francisco of that bug entry to this one here in CC.


There is another bug which is quite similar to this one, but also has a slight
different twist: Bug 39097

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(In reply to comment #3)
 Bug 62540 describes something very similar. IMHO it is not exactly an exact
 duplicate, but it might make sense to join the two bug entries. 
 
 I put Francisco of that bug entry to this one here in CC.
 
 
 There is another bug which is quite similar to this one, but also has a
 slight different twist: Bug 39097

Hi Gerry, thanks for let me join this talk.

Well, in some way, it _is_ a duplicate of what I wanted to report in first
place: it is a really slow task to edit format charts in Calc. What could we
do? 
· Add chart styles
· Add other customization options for the defaults presets of charts (not only
colors)

Then I realized that the problem was a pretty bigger, since not even textboxes
drawn inside charts are editable through styles. Then I stated that charts need
some improvement in general, though the implementation of styles is a real step
fordward in this goal.

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--- Comment #1 from A stgohi-lob...@yahoo.de ---
I agree, this would be a very good idea.  More standard chart types would also
be very good like bar of pie chart, etc.

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@A - Thanks for looking into this matter. Feel free to add also more standard
charts. This makes customization already a bit easier. However, with the
styles, LibO would beat MSO with a great functionality. I just keep fingers
crossed for dev manpower.

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