[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 64232] FILEOPEN: [FILEOPEN] [FORMATTING] [DATALOSS] Importing DOCX with default font 'Times New Roman' - shown as different font in Writer
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64232 --- Comment #10 from Shai Petel sha...@gmail.com --- I can confirm this happens to me with Office 2013, and I think I know why and what was changed. Hope this can help: I cracked open the docx file and noticed this behaviour, text using any one of the theme fonts (current them my word was set to) is rendered incorrectly. Any words using a font outside of my theme - was rendered correctly. I noticed in the document.xml inside the docx file, that fonts outside of my theme had the font name in them, example: w:rFonts w:ascii=FrankRuehl w:hAnsi=FrankRuehl w:cs=FrankRuehl/ While fonts from my theme, had one of these: w:rFonts w:asciiTheme=majorBidi w:hAnsiTheme=majorBidi w:cstheme=majorBidi/ or w:rFonts w:asciiTheme=minorBidi w:hAnsiTheme=minorBidi/ Now, when you go to sub folder theme and open theme1.xml you can find the definition of the major and minor theme to use. There is a font scheme set with the majorFont table and minorFont table, this is where it gets complex: the major or minor font is not a single font, but a list of fonts per language. So, each language has it's own major/minor font, and one of them is set to the default. I believe this is a new format change in office 2013, which omits the font name from the document and points to the theme file. I vote for making this high priority, since with people starting to work on office 2013 more and more - this will become a huge disadvantage for using LibreOffice. I can help with providing office 2013 test machine if you guys need me to test something. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 64232] FILEOPEN: [FILEOPEN] [FORMATTING] [DATALOSS] Importing DOCX with default font 'Times New Roman' - shown as different font in Writer
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64232 --- Comment #11 from Shai Petel sha...@gmail.com --- Created attachment 82600 -- https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=82600action=edit File with Hebrew text example of the problem. Only one word uses a non theme font that works Note in this file example, each word uses different font from the default theme. They should be Ariel or Times New Roman - instead they appear wrong. Only the word in the middle of the second row uses a custom non-theme font and this is the only one displayed correctly. It uses FrankRuehl font. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 64232] FILEOPEN: [FILEOPEN] [FORMATTING] [DATALOSS] Importing DOCX with default font 'Times New Roman' - shown as different font in Writer
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64232 Shai Petel sha...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added Severity|normal |major Priority|medium |high CC||sha...@gmail.com -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 64232] FILEOPEN: [FILEOPEN] [FORMATTING] [DATALOSS] Importing DOCX with default font 'Times New Roman' - shown as different font in Writer
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64232 --- Comment #12 from Adam CloudOn rattles2...@gmail.com --- (In reply to comment #10) I can confirm this happens to me with Office 2013, and I think I know why and what was changed. Hope this can help: Your analysis looks exactly like mine, so I guess we are both right ... LibreOffice does not support 'Themes' for now... I agree this should be supported and vote '+1' to mark it as 'major'. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 64232] FILEOPEN: [FILEOPEN] [FORMATTING] [DATALOSS] Importing DOCX with default font 'Times New Roman' - shown as different font in Writer
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64232 --- Comment #9 from Adam CloudOn rattles2...@gmail.com --- I have investigated what happens here, and this is what I *think* happens: The DOCX file I have attached has a tag called : w:rFonts w:asciiTheme=majorBidi w:hAnsiTheme=majorBidi w:cstheme=majorBidi/ this tag means 'run fonts', and what I understand from investigation is that it determines the default font used for the run (in case no specific font is set). There are 2 ways of doing so: setting the 'ascii', 'hAnsi', 'cs' and 'ea' attributes OR setting the 'asciiTheme', 'hAnsiTheme', 'cstheme' and 'eaTheme' attributes. for example: - if you set 'w:ascci=Tahoma' than this means that any ascii text in the run that has no font set to it will be rendered in Tahoma. - if you set 'w:cs=Tahoma' than this means that any complex-script text (e.g. Hebrew or Arabic) in the run that has no font set to it will be rendered in Tahoma. On the other hand, you have 'asciiTheme' and 'cstheme' and so on, and this is where it gets tricky. 'w:csTheme=majorBidi' means that Word will go to the 'settings.xml' file - look for the 'w:themeFontLang' tag, and look for the 'bidi' attribute. In the attached file this is the tag: w:themeFontLang w:val=en-US w:eastAsia=zh-CN w:bidi=he-IL/ Word will then go to the 'theme1.xml' file and look for the 'majorFont' tag. After finding it - it will look for the 'Hebr' tag (because bidi was 'he-IL' which is Hebrew). There is will see that the typeface for 'majorFont' in the language 'Hebrew' is Times New Roman, and this means that for every complex-script text in the run - it will be rendered in Times New Roman. The same goes for 'asciiTheme', with one difference - all the text in the run that is simple ascii - will be rendered in 'Times New Roman'. How can you verify this ? If you go to the 'theme1.xml' file and change the typeface for 'majorFont' 'Hebr' to 'Tahoma' you will see Word shows the font of the text in 'Tahoma'. My conclusion after this (long) comment is that there is probably a problem in the mechanism that imports the theme settings information from the DOCX. In addition - it seems that LO sets these attributes to (empty string) when it saves back to DOCX, which Word probably doesn't like... I hope this helps. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 64232] FILEOPEN: [FILEOPEN] [FORMATTING] [DATALOSS] Importing DOCX with default font 'Times New Roman' - shown as different font in Writer
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64232 Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEEDINFO|NEW -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 64232] FILEOPEN: [FILEOPEN] [FORMATTING] [DATALOSS] Importing DOCX with default font 'Times New Roman' - shown as different font in Writer
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64232 Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW CC||mst...@redhat.com Ever confirmed|0 |1 --- Comment #6 from Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com --- Windows 7 LibreOffice Version 4.0.2.2 release ++ Confirmed New (confirmed) Major - not good, seems like MSO has changed something about their docx formatannoying from our end but still we shouldn't be making MSO think that we broke their files High In the future please try to keep bug reports separate :) This is in fact 2 related bugs (and possibly the same root cause but I'm not sure). For now will keep as one and cc writer expert. Thanks for reporting! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 64232] FILEOPEN: [FILEOPEN] [FORMATTING] [DATALOSS] Importing DOCX with default font 'Times New Roman' - shown as different font in Writer
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64232 Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added Hardware|Other |All OS|Windows (All) |All -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 64232] FILEOPEN: [FILEOPEN] [FORMATTING] [DATALOSS] Importing DOCX with default font 'Times New Roman' - shown as different font in Writer
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64232 --- Comment #7 from Gerry gerry.trep...@googlemail.com --- @Adam: Is it possible that your original file has a formatting error? Opening your test docx-file in Word 2010 I see that the font name is Times New Roman (Headings CS) I do not exactly know how it came in the Word 2013 file, but I think LibreOffice replaces this unknown font with something else. Of course, it should replace it with Times New Roman instead of a completely different font. On the other hand, could you please investigate with your Word 2013 installation how this ...(Heading CS) came into the font name? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 64232] FILEOPEN: [FILEOPEN] [FORMATTING] [DATALOSS] Importing DOCX with default font 'Times New Roman' - shown as different font in Writer
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64232 Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |NEEDINFO --- Comment #8 from Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com --- Gerry - great catch Marking as NEEDINFO. I tried reproducing with a blank document and could not. My default font is Calibri(body). When I save the document and open with LibreOffice it opens and has font set as Calibri. I then saved a copy of the document from LibreOffice to docx format (2007/2010) -- probably should add 2013 to this -- and opened the document successfully with Word with no issues. I think this is a problem with that font choice, and it's likely that it's notourbug. Please confirm this and then we can mark the bug as INVALID. Thanks! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 64232] FILEOPEN: [FILEOPEN] [FORMATTING] [DATALOSS] Importing DOCX with default font 'Times New Roman' - shown as different font in Writer
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64232 --- Comment #3 from Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com --- the file is not corrupt - Microsoft Office only supports an older version of open standards (ODF), so when you try to save with the new standards which is default for LibreOffice it doesn't know what to do and says there is an error - quite tricky on Microsoft's part to say the least - especially if MSO 2013 is still doing this. This was well known with 2007 and 2010, it's unfortunate that they are still trying to blame their lack of support on the file itself (thus blaming corrupt file, vs. sorry we don't support this). @ Joren - sure I'll test, I still haven't actually installed MSO 2013 - just sitting there collecting dust like 2010 is ;) But I will try to install or test on a system that has it already - give me a day or two :) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 64232] FILEOPEN: [FILEOPEN] [FORMATTING] [DATALOSS] Importing DOCX with default font 'Times New Roman' - shown as different font in Writer
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64232 --- Comment #4 from Adam CloudOn rattles2...@gmail.com --- Maybe I was misunderstood or maybe I didn't understand @Joel's comment.. I did not mean saving DOCX as ODF and trying to open it in MS Word. I meant working only with DOCX files. Open DOCX in LO - save it as NEW.DOCX - open new NEW.DOCX in Word = Boom, corrupt. Why would Word say the DOCX is corrupted unless LO somehow had a bug exporting? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 64232] FILEOPEN: [FILEOPEN] [FORMATTING] [DATALOSS] Importing DOCX with default font 'Times New Roman' - shown as different font in Writer
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64232 --- Comment #5 from Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com --- indeed this would be a much more serious problem, I misunderstood, will attempt to test today -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 64232] FILEOPEN: [FILEOPEN] [FORMATTING] [DATALOSS] Importing DOCX with default font 'Times New Roman' - shown as different font in Writer
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64232 --- Comment #1 from Adam CloudOn rattles2...@gmail.com --- Created attachment 78874 -- https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=78874action=edit LibreOffice Font Bug - Screenshot -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 64232] FILEOPEN: [FILEOPEN] [FORMATTING] [DATALOSS] Importing DOCX with default font 'Times New Roman' - shown as different font in Writer
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64232 Jorendc joren.libreoff...@telenet.be changed: What|Removed |Added CC||jmadero@gmail.com, ||joren.libreoffice@telenet.b ||e --- Comment #2 from Jorendc joren.libreoff...@telenet.be --- @Joel: Sorry to ping you in your vacation. Do you mind to test with Office 2013? Thanks! Joren -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
