[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 65434] FORMATTING: hitting TAB when multiple lines are selected, should change indent of all selected lines

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--- Comment #14 from UltraBurstXD  ---
I really hope someone reconsider this enhancement, in my case apply tab for
each each line is tiresome, very tiresome. Sometimes very frustrating.

I think MS Office always done something similar, why shouldn't LO do same?

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 65434] FORMATTING: hitting TAB when multiple lines are selected, should change indent of all selected lines

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--- Comment #13 from Mike Kaganski  ---
(In reply to jddcef from comment #11)
> don't let
> technical developers make usability decisions on this product. Use latex if
> they are obsessed about document production. This product can't even reach
> the number of pages to publish a book without crashing, so this idea of
> perfection is way off at this stage.
> Cater for user first, then the rare power user as an "option".

I was a power user many years before becoming a LO dev. I used to help tens of
other users at my previous workplace; they kept struggling and wasting hundreds
oh hours (combined) to make their documents look normal - initially on MSO,
then later on OOo and LibreOffice, so that was same on any office suite. Being
blissfully ignorant, they considered their "use" of the tool normal, and being
"efficient" when they started to create their "documents", they didn't realize
that their following problems were caused by that initial misuse of the tool.
And only after I repeated the show of how initial small effort on learning the
tool paid later, many times, they realized the importance of that.

But please don't let the literates to make decisions if you need to learn
reading and writing properly. That study is definitely badly affects your life
and skills, and hinders your lifer progress.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 65434] FORMATTING: hitting TAB when multiple lines are selected, should change indent of all selected lines

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--- Comment #12 from Mike Kaganski  ---
(In reply to jddcef from comment #11)
> Well, if someone wants to delete all their work, they can press backspace or
> delete.

When you select anything, and press a key that inserts a character "a", you
expect the text to be overwritten by the new character "a".

> It's way more crazy to have everything overwritten by pressing TAB
> rather than 
> "oh shame something has changed, I wanted to delete it but instead I
> indented it".

It's strange to have one character "a" overwrite selection, and another "Tab"
to do strange things instead.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 65434] FORMATTING: hitting TAB when multiple lines are selected, should change indent of all selected lines

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--- Comment #11 from jdd...@gmail.com ---

> This would be a feature that would introduce a *direct formatting* to the
> selection, when one presses a normal character button.

Well, if someone wants to delete all their work, they can press backspace or
delete. It's way more crazy to have everything overwritten by pressing TAB
rather than 
"oh shame something has changed, I wanted to delete it but instead I indented
it".

I don't feel charitable in my response, so I'm going to say again, don't let
technical developers make usability decisions on this product. Use latex if
they are obsessed about document production. This product can't even reach the
number of pages to publish a book without crashing, so this idea of perfection
is way off at this stage.
Cater for user first, then the rare power user as an "option".


This is why Libreoffice still remains a WONTUSE product ten years on.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 65434] FORMATTING: hitting TAB when multiple lines are selected, should change indent of all selected lines

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--- Comment #10 from Mike Kaganski  ---
(In reply to jddcef from comment #7)
> I would like to upvote this issue. It's a major issue when working on any
> document. For example, when I have a numbered paragraph that is indented and
> I want each line to match the indentation of the first line. I can't go and
> tab each line, that's frustating.

This is using a wrong tool for a task. I suppose that most (all?) users who
might want this (mis)feature likely simply do not know how to do that properly,
using list and paragraph properties and styles.

For cases of inserting source code, using a dedicated "source code" paragraph
style with offsets.

For cases of lists, "Position" tab of Bullets and Numbering dialog allows one
to adjust the proper position of first and following lines.

My take is WONTFIX.

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--- Comment #9 from Mike Kaganski  ---
This would be a feature that would introduce a *direct formatting* to the
selection, when one presses a normal character button. The other suites that
are not focusing on proper use of styles, may be OK with introducing direct
formatting easily; but LibreOffice should not introduce direct formatting when
user does normal things. We should not create tools that will force users who
use styles consistently think twice "will this not direct-format my text"
before pressing any key.

This could be a non-default option, if introduced at all.

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--- Comment #8 from UltraBurstXD  ---
(In reply to jddcef from comment #7)
> I would like to upvote this issue. It's a major issue when working on any
> document. For example, when I have a numbered paragraph that is indented and
> I want each line to match the indentation of the first line. I can't go and
> tab each line, that's frustating.
> 
> I was helping a friend on his brochure handout for mass, and I ran into this
> issue and was embarrassed by it, because I was the one who installed
> LibreOffice on his computer.

Me either... It's need not only for formatting some codes, but others stuff
too.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 65434] FORMATTING: hitting TAB when multiple lines are selected, should change indent of all selected lines

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Thomas Lendo  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Blocks||107831


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107831
[Bug 107831] [META] Paragraph-level bugs and enhancements
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jdd...@gmail.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||jdd...@gmail.com

--- Comment #7 from jdd...@gmail.com ---
I would like to upvote this issue. It's a major issue when working on any
document. For example, when I have a numbered paragraph that is indented and I
want each line to match the indentation of the first line. I can't go and tab
each line, that's frustating.

I was helping a friend on his brochure handout for mass, and I ran into this
issue and was embarrassed by it, because I was the one who installed
LibreOffice on his computer.

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Cor Nouws c...@nouenoff.nl changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|REOPENED|NEW

--- Comment #6 from Cor Nouws c...@nouenoff.nl ---
Still a valid request (though IMO not so useful ;))

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 65434] FORMATTING: hitting TAB when multiple lines are selected, should change indent of all selected lines

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Cor Nouws c...@nouenoff.nl changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Summary|Tabulator on multiple lines |FORMATTING: hitting TAB
   |should add a tabulator to   |when multiple lines are
   |all lines   |selected, should change
   ||indent of all selected
   ||lines
Version|4.0.3.3 release |3.3.0 Beta2

--- Comment #5 from Cor Nouws c...@nouenoff.nl ---

(In reply to comment #0)
 Expected behavior:
 A tab should be added to all selected lines

Not sure if *expected* is right, but - true is true - when you select more
lines with bullets/ numbering, the behaviour is as requested..

Set the version to 330 - it's obviously inherrited from OOo.

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