[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 68459] EDITING: frames are jumping and impossible to position correctly with arrow keys

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--- Comment #27 from mango wodzak  ---
This bug is still present in the latest version of LO :

Version: 7.5.0.3 (X86_64) / LibreOffice Community
Build: c21113d003cd3efa8c53188764377a8272d9d6de
Environment: CPU threads: 12; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 22621
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Locale: en-AU (en_AU); UI: en-GB
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> Dear mango wodzak,
> 
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yes.. already replied..

Not yet fixed the bug is still firmly present.

Version:7.2.1.2 (x64)
Build:  87b77fad49947c1441b67c559
Environment:CPU Threads 12; OS; Windows 10.0 Build 19403
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Not yet fixed the bug is still firmly present.

Version:7.2.1.2 (x64)
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--- Comment #22 from mango wodzak  ---
Bug is still present in v6.3 .. only now one can no longer double click on a
frame edge to open the properties dialogue, and aligning a frame using the
align buttons causes separation of text from the frame.. Frames seem to work
differently in 6.3, someone is tweaking things there, but doesn't look like
they've improved things at all..

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--- Comment #21 from mango wodzak  ---
Yes.. bug is still annoyingly present in 6.2.4.2 ..

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--- Comment #19 from mango wodzak  ---
This issue is still present within libreoffice writer..

Version: 6.0.4.2 (x64)
Build ID: 9b0d9b32d5dcda91d2f1a96dc04c645c450872bf
CPU threads: 8; OS: Windows 10.0; UI render: default; 
Locale: en-AU (en_AU); Calc: group

I believe I've already marked someplace that the issue has been around since
the beginning of libreoffice, and is still present with openoffce too..

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Thomas Lendo  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Blocks||106773


Referenced Bugs:

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[Bug 106773] [META] Writer document canvas view jump issues
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   What|Removed |Added

   Hardware|Other   |All
 OS|Windows (All)   |All

--- Comment #17 from Thomas Lendo  ---
I confirm the impossibility to move the frame in the described manner with
arrow keys.

I also discovered that you can't move the frame with the mouse to a position
within the paragraph that started at the page before. It's only possible to
anchor it to the next paragraph. Maybe that behavior for arrow keys and mouse
has the same cause.

Version: 5.3.0.3
Build ID: 1:5.3.0~rc3-0ubuntu1~trusty1.1
CPU Threads: 2; OS Version: Linux 3.13; UI Render: default; VCL: gtk2; Layout
Engine: new; 
Locale: de-AT (de_DE.UTF-8); Calc: group

Jumping when deleting a frame is also covered by Bug 101932. That bug is newer
as this one but to respect the "one report per bug" rule I would suggest to
handle the jumping issue there.

mango: I think it's unlikely that this bug will be fixed in the near future
unless you will personally find a developer who is willing to work on it. There
are a thousand times more issues than developers and the priority is not high -
see
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/Fields/Priority#Priority_Levels

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--- Comment #16 from mango wodzak  ---
I'm very sad to see that this bug is still not fixed in version 5.3… Surely it
is more important to fix bugs in a program before adding new features? This
issue has been around since the dawn of libreoffice/openoffice and is still
present, and still very annoying. It has been well over three years since I
first reported it too.. It would be much appreciated if some kind soul could at
least acknowledge that this bug is being worked on, or low prioritized on a
long list of bugs that need fixing?

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--- Comment #15 from mango wodzak  ---
Is there any chance that this bug will be fixed in the up-and-coming version
5.3? It's been over three years since I reported this bug, which has been
present since the very beginning of LibreOffice.. it really would be great to
know that this bug is not being completely ignored, as it is still something
which I find restricts my usage of this otherwise fantastic office suite.

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--- Comment #13 from mango wodzak  ---
very disappointed to see that this bug is still not fixed in version 5.1…

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Does anyone know if this bug will be fixed in the up-and-coming version 5.1?

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--- Comment #10 from mango wodzak  ---
This bug definitely continues with version 5.0.1.2, as far as I can see there
has been no change, and it's still as irritating as ever. It works exactly the
same way in the lastest Open Office version too. I'm using windows 10.
cheers,
mango.

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tommy27 ba...@quipo.it changed:

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 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
 CC||ba...@quipo.it
Summary|EDITING: frames are jumping |EDITING: frames are jumping
   |and impossible to position  |and impossible to position
   |correctly.  |correctly with arrow keys
 Ever confirmed|0   |1

--- Comment #5 from tommy27 ba...@quipo.it ---
I confirm arrow keys issue on Win7x64 using LibO 4.3.2.2

I set status to NEW and let's see what other people from the QA team thinks
about this: a BUG or NOTABUG ?

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--- Comment #6 from mango wodzak mango.wod...@gmail.com ---
Thanks for reopening this Tommy..

This bug is still present and demonstrable in the latest version of LO, via
the attachment I uploaded here earlier.. It is quite frustrating if one uses
frames a lot (which I do)..

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Version|4.1.0.4 release |4.3.2.2 release

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Version|4.3.2.2 release |Inherited From OOo

--- Comment #7 from tommy27 ba...@quipo.it ---
@mango
do not change version field to latest version you see the bug. it should
indicate firts version the issue apperared. after more tests I can tell this
bug is inherited from OOo (affects OOo 3.3.0, LibO 3.3.3 and AOO 4.1.0)

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 68459] EDITING: frames are jumping and impossible to position correctly with arrow keys

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https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=68459

--- Comment #8 from mango wodzak mango.wod...@gmail.com ---
(In reply to tommy27 from comment #7)
 @mango
 do not change version field to latest version you see the bug. it should
 indicate firts version the issue apperared. after more tests I can tell this
 bug is inherited from OOo (affects OOo 3.3.0, LibO 3.3.3 and AOO 4.1.0)

ok.. sorry about that..

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 68459] EDITING: frames are jumping and impossible to position correctly.

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https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=68459

Jean-Baptiste Faure jbf.fa...@sud-ouest.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEEDINFO|UNCONFIRMED
 Whiteboard|BSA |BSA NeedAdvice
 Ever confirmed|1   |0

--- Comment #4 from Jean-Baptiste Faure jbf.fa...@sud-ouest.org ---
Added whiteboard NeedAdvice because of my comment #1 and set the status back to
unconfirmed.

Best regards. JBF

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 68459] EDITING: frames are jumping and impossible to position correctly.

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https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=68459

--- Comment #3 from QA Administrators qa-ad...@libreoffice.org ---
Dear Bug Submitter,

Please read the entire message before proceeding.

This bug has been in NEEDINFO status with no change for at least 6 months.
Please provide the requested information as soon as possible and mark the bug
as UNCONFIRMED. Due to regular bug tracker maintenance, if the bug is still in
NEEDINFO status with no change in 30 days the QA team will close the bug as
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 68459] EDITING: frames are jumping and impossible to position correctly.

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https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=68459

Jean-Baptiste Faure jbf.fa...@sud-ouest.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEEDINFO
 CC||jbf.fa...@sud-ouest.org
 Ever confirmed|0   |1

--- Comment #1 from Jean-Baptiste Faure jbf.fa...@sud-ouest.org ---
To move a frame from a page to another, it is less expensive to use the mouse
or the cut-and-paste instead of hitting several times on the arrow keys.

That said, after several experiences, I think that the ability to move a frame
using up and down arrow keys seems to have not been designed to work outside
the current page.

I tend to close this bug report as NotABug. Any advice?

Best regards. JBF

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 68459] EDITING: frames are jumping and impossible to position correctly.

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https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=68459

--- Comment #2 from mango wodzak mango.wod...@gmail.com ---
I'm really not sure what you mean by less expensive. If I use the cut and
paste, the frame does not get placed exactly where I tell it to get pasted.
It's quite difficult, for example to place a frame directly between 2
paragraphs without using the arrow keys.

In any case, the behaviour is erratic, and if the arrow key moves it up to the
previous page (which it does!), surely it would just make logical sense that it
would move it back down again, (which it doesn't). Also the fact that the frame
can get stuck in the footer area is quite annoying and surely merits being
listed as a bug rather than an extremely badly thought through feature.

Also, there is currently no way to place a frame within a paragraph that
started on the previous page.

Try featuring such frames in your own writing, I think you will soon realise
that the degree of control is minimal and that this needs addressing.

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