[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 71319] Incorrect wrapping of text with indent around a picture

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--- Comment #17 from Butch  ---
@JBF:
You say: "Use parallel text adaptation instead of optimal."

However, this is not the ONLY setting you changed in my demo doc!

My image was inserted with the horizontal position 
Left to Paragraph text area. (*)

If you only change wrapping to parallel, the bug is still present!
Your additional mesure was to change the horizontal position to
>From left by 4.58 cm to Paragraph area.

This is the point! From my point of view (*) is the logical kind of setting
because the image should be positioned left inside the intended paragraph (i.e.
to the paragraph text area).
With positioning relative to the paragraph area you have to set the position
twice: for the intended paragraph AND for the image.
The first variant must be considered (1) as more logical and comfort, but (2)
at least as an allowed option not leading to undesired effects, if not (3) as
'intended' method.

Am I wrong?

Sincerely
B.

PS: There is a variant of the (*) setting which is known as workaround:
wrapping to parallel & horizontal position
>From left by 0.01 cm to Paragraph text area.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 71319] Incorrect wrapping of text with indent around a picture

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--- Comment #16 from Jean-Baptiste Faure  ---
Created attachment 132746
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demo file modified

(In reply to Butch from comment #15)
> [...]
> Could you show your "it works as expected" solution in the Demo.odt file
> enclosed and attach your changed file here?

Use parallel text adaptation instead of optimal.

Best regards. JBF

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 71319] Incorrect wrapping of text with indent around a picture

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Butch  changed:

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--- Comment #15 from Butch  ---
Created attachment 132477
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Demo file

Hi!

I independently discovered the same problem, but I can't reproduce your
WORKSFORME at all.

Could you show your "it works as expected" solution in the Demo.odt file
enclosed and attach your changed file here?

Sincerely
Butch

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 71319] Incorrect wrapping of text with indent around a picture

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Jean-Baptiste Faure jbf.fa...@sud-ouest.org changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEEDINFO|RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |WORKSFORME

--- Comment #14 from Jean-Baptiste Faure jbf.fa...@sud-ouest.org ---
(In reply to comment #12)
 [...]
 This did not help. I made a demo document with the problem,  called Indent 
 Bug

It works as expected if you set the horizontal position of the frame to 3.23001
cm instead of 3.23. So if the frame is _inside_ the paragraph area.

Tested with LibreOffice 4.3.1.0.0+ (Build ID:
8e08ec34ac5ad552709782b10fd309b78ed080f8) under Ubuntu 14.04 x86-64

Closing as WorksForMe.

Best regards. JBF

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 71319] Incorrect wrapping of text with indent around a picture

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--- Comment #13 from QA Administrators qa-ad...@libreoffice.org ---
Dear Bug Submitter,

This bug has been in NEEDINFO status with no change for at least 6 months.
Please provide the requested information as soon as possible and mark the bug
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NEEDINFO status with no change in 30 days the QA team will close the bug as
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 71319] Incorrect wrapping of text with indent around a picture

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--- Comment #10 from Dominique Boutry dominique.bout...@laposte.net ---
(In reply to comment #7)
 Created attachment 89787 [details]
 Document made in 2010 with an old OpenOffice version
 
 Sample document made in 2010 with an old version of OpenOffice. Old behavior
 is kept even if opened with a new LibreOffice version. You can notice that,
 with the old behavior, it is possible to have zero indent on the right side
 of the second picture, just some spacing around the picture, even if the
 paragraph style has before text indent.

Lib0 4.2.0.0 beta2 on Win7 :

Please pay attention to the Wrap attribute of the frame encapsulating the image
and its title :
- it is Page Wrap in the document you submit, hence the right old
behaviour,
- should you change it to Optimal Page Wrap, it falls into the behaviour you
contest,
- so IMHO all is perfectly correct in LibO, we have the features to get both
behaviour, both in a straightforward way.

Regards

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--- Comment #11 from nico supernikos...@gmail.com ---
Created attachment 90361
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Indent Bug

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--- Comment #12 from nico supernikos...@gmail.com ---
Thanks for your Reply

- it is Page Wrap in the document you submit, hence the right old 
behaviour,
- should you change it to Optimal Page Wrap, it falls into the behaviour you 
contest,

This did not help. I made a demo document with the problem,  called Indent
Bug

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nico supernikos...@gmail.com changed:

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--- Comment #9 from nico supernikos...@gmail.com ---
I am running on the same bug and would agree that the old behaviour is the
right one..

If i want to make an indent for a paragraph only, changing the margin the left
spacing for the whole site is changed.
If i want to add an image to the indented paragraph and make the text wrap
around it, i run into this bug...

Nico

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--- Comment #7 from stabs...@yahoo.fr ---
Created attachment 89787
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Document made in 2010 with an old OpenOffice version

Sample document made in 2010 with an old version of OpenOffice. Old behavior is
kept even if opened with a new LibreOffice version. You can notice that, with
the old behavior, it is possible to have zero indent on the right side of the
second picture, just some spacing around the picture, even if the paragraph
style has before text indent.

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--- Comment #8 from stabs...@yahoo.fr ---
(In reply to comment #6)
 Not sure if the old behavior was the correct one ...
 
 I do not understand why you use a before text indent for the default
 style. You can obtain the same effect without indent by changing the left
 margin.
 
 Best regards. JBF

I've add before text indent to the default style as a prof of the bug. And, no,
adding before text indent and increasing left marging don't have the same
result, see sample file below...!

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Jean-Baptiste Faure jbf.fa...@sud-ouest.org changed:

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--- Comment #6 from Jean-Baptiste Faure jbf.fa...@sud-ouest.org ---
Not sure if the old behavior was the correct one ...

I do not understand why you use a before text indent for the default style.
You can obtain the same effect without indent by changing the left margin.

Best regards. JBF

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--- Comment #5 from Dominique Boutry dominique.bout...@laposte.net ---
I agree.

I used tables in the past to get a specific layout in a book I wrote ; however
I agree it isn't a general solution.

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--- Comment #3 from Dominique Boutry dominique.bout...@laposte.net ---
We are facing 2 choices ; below are some criteria to take into account :
- exhaustive pro-con analysis (exemple : whis the asked behavior, the text
right to the picture doesn't respond anymore to any indent setting)
- history : ascending compatibility with older versions,
- common sense (but the notion of correct rendering tends to be a personnal),
- technics to allow both behaviors (in the present case, trying page wrap
instead of optimal page wrap may be satisfying in some cases ; other technic
in tables with 1 line-2 columns).

What I'm afraid of is the ping-pong syndrom :
- choice A to satisfy users asking it,
- number of bug reports claiming against the change or against the adoption of
choice A : choice B to satisfy those users,
- number of bug reports claiming against the change or against the adoption of
choice B : back to choice A, etc... etc...

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--- Comment #4 from stabs...@yahoo.fr ---
Well, actualy the problem is quite simple. With the actual setting it's *not*
possible to have no indent next to the picture if paragraph indent is set. But
with what I call correct rendering, I mean no indent next to the picture,
even if paragraph indent is set, it's still possible to add spacing in the
picture wrap properties to add indent. Basicaly this property is done for that,
no ? So with my solution everybody can possibly be happy, as both behaviours
can be easily reproduced. 
Using table is to me a dirty workaround as table is not supposed to be used to
correct bad text wrapping !

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Michael Stahl mst...@redhat.com changed:

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--- Comment #1 from sophie gautier.sop...@gmail.com ---
I can't reproduce using Ubuntu 13.10 and 4.1.3, could you tell us what is your
system? Sophie

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--- Comment #2 from stabs...@yahoo.fr ---
The sample file has been made on Ubuntu 13.10 with Version: 4.1.2.3 Build ID:
410m0(Build:3) stable PPA LibreOffice. I've just upgraded to Version: 4.1.3.2
Build ID: 410m0(Build:2) from ppa:libreoffice/libreoffice-4-1, the bug is still
present.
The way to reproduce it :

- open a new Writer document and add some text
- modify default paragraph style and set before text indent to, say, 2cm
- insert a picture in the middle of the text with default option
- the text does not stick to the picture but is 2cm from the right side of
the picture

OpenOffice 3.0 (Mac) and LibreOffice 4.0 (Windows) I use at the university with
my students have the same bug too. But rather old versions (OpenOffice 2.0.xx)
didn't, as the same exercice made on those old versions used to give the
correct rendering (text sticked to the right side of the picture).

Feel free to contact me directly in french if needed. Thanks for the great job
you're doing at LibreOffice :-)

Bruno

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stabs...@yahoo.fr changed:

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Summary|Incorrect wrapping around a |Incorrect wrapping of text
   |picture of text with indent |with indent around a
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