[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86321] EDITING, FORMATTING: diagram didn't automatic update when change variable (recalculation not triggered)

2021-04-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86321

--- Comment #91 from Dimitris Kallipolitis  ---
I have found a solution to this problem:
Go to Tools->Options->LibreOffice→Advanced→Open Expert Configuration→ Search
for ‘cache’→ Change org.openoffice.Office.Common→Cache→Drawing Engine
(OLE_Objects) to e.g. 40 (default value 20). This value should be greater than
your maximum number of charts in any spreadsheet that you use. A lower value
causes some charts not to be updated when spreadsheet data is updated. It's a
cache issue.

Verified with:
Version: 7.1.2.2 / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: 10(Build:2)
OS: Linux 5.8; UI render: default; VCL: gtk3
Ubuntu package version: 1:7.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu0.20.04.1~lo3
Calc: threaded

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86321] EDITING, FORMATTING: diagram didn't automatic update when change variable (recalculation not triggered)

2021-04-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86321

Xisco Faulí  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||snowboard...@gmail.com

--- Comment #90 from Xisco Faulí  ---
*** Bug 141455 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86321] EDITING, FORMATTING: diagram didn't automatic update when change variable (recalculation not triggered)

2021-04-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86321

--- Comment #89 from snowboard975  ---
I can reproduce the bug on Libreoffice of below version.

Version: 7.0.5.2 (x64)
Build ID: 64390860c6cd0aca4beafafcfd84613dd9dfb63a
CPU threads: 8; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 19041; UI render: Skia/Raster; VCL: win
Locale: en-US (en_US); UI: en-US
Calc: CL


(In reply to Blair Mault from comment #88)
> (In reply to Joel Madero from comment #15)
> > This is not a critical bug - I'm not sure who marked it as such.
> > 
> > Marking as:
> > Minor - there is a workaround (see last comment). It can slow down
> > professional quality work but will not prevent it. Critical is reserved for
> > major crashes and serious data loss - this is neither.
> > 
> > I'll leave as highest and leave it on MAB list.
> > 
> > Please do not revert my changes. 
> > 
> > 
> > What would be nice is for those seeing this issue to test older releases to
> > see if it's a regression.
> > http://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/
> > https://bestfreehdporn.pro/category/anal-porn-paysites/
> > 
> > Best thing to do is to test 3.3 - if it's present in 3.3 then it's not a
> > regression (please leave a comment). If it isn't present in 3.3, then start
> > testing every release (3.4, 3.5, 3.6, 4.0, etc...) to try to narrow where
> > the bug came in.
> 
> fixed?

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86321] EDITING, FORMATTING: diagram didn't automatic update when change variable (recalculation not triggered)

2021-02-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86321

--- Comment #88 from Blair Mault  ---
(In reply to Joel Madero from comment #15)
> This is not a critical bug - I'm not sure who marked it as such.
> 
> Marking as:
> Minor - there is a workaround (see last comment). It can slow down
> professional quality work but will not prevent it. Critical is reserved for
> major crashes and serious data loss - this is neither.
> 
> I'll leave as highest and leave it on MAB list.
> 
> Please do not revert my changes. 
> 
> 
> What would be nice is for those seeing this issue to test older releases to
> see if it's a regression.
> http://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/
> https://bestfreehdporn.pro/category/anal-porn-paysites/
> 
> Best thing to do is to test 3.3 - if it's present in 3.3 then it's not a
> regression (please leave a comment). If it isn't present in 3.3, then start
> testing every release (3.4, 3.5, 3.6, 4.0, etc...) to try to narrow where
> the bug came in.

fixed?

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86321] EDITING, FORMATTING: diagram didn't automatic update when change variable (recalculation not triggered)

2020-11-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86321

Buovjaga  changed:

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   See Also|https://bugs.documentfounda |
   |tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13 |
   |3630|

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86321] EDITING, FORMATTING: diagram didn't automatic update when change variable (recalculation not triggered)

2020-11-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86321

Smyan Jaipuriyar  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13
   ||3630

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86321] EDITING, FORMATTING: diagram didn't automatic update when change variable (recalculation not triggered)

2020-10-29 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86321

--- Comment #87 from VLB  ---
bug 86321 does update by LO 4.2.8.2, but no longer with LO 4.3.0.1.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86321] EDITING, FORMATTING: diagram didn't automatic update when change variable (recalculation not triggered)

2020-10-29 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86321

--- Comment #86 from matthewn...@yahoo.co.uk ---
(In reply to Lars Jødal from comment #83)
> (In reply to matthewnote from comment #79)

> This thread is becoming quite scary just by its size. While details can
> reveal new findings, I think that at the present stage we are more in need
> of simple test cases with simple descriptions.)

Bug 137735 proposes the precise method at comment 78 so that readers know how
to corrupt the loading of any file, even if it works once before and how to
restore the file.

The Bug also details all results for all calc 5 versions.  It also gives a user
workaround in Windows versions.  Calc 5.4.7.2 still has this bug here  (due to
many types of edits) but Save-Close-Open restores it every time.

I try to brief.  Testing or (we hope) beta testing a bugfix can be done by
e-mail - no need to post here.  However, until someone skilled volunteers to
assign it to themselves  (with a contact address) I think the only option is to
place all the facts to encourage him or her to start/attempt.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86321] EDITING, FORMATTING: diagram didn't automatic update when change variable (recalculation not triggered)

2020-10-29 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86321

--- Comment #85 from VLB  ---
> (This thread is becoming quite scary just by its size. While details can
> reveal new findings, I think that at the present stage we are more in need
> of simple test cases with simple descriptions.)

For this bug 86321 it can be reproduced with the following steps:

1) Installeer LO 5.4.7
2) Open attachment 114246
3) Save the file in other/different name 5 sheets or more
4) Open all files
5) Delete cell H19:L19 in all files and save all files
6) Enter the following value in all cell ïnvoer" H19:L19 in all files/sheets,
number "8"
7) Look at the different graphs on the following sheets "invoer A52:P57" +
"vb_610a A52:p57" + "vb_610b A52:p57" + "eg A52:p57" + "loX0_9 A52:p57" +
"rox0_9 A52:p57"
8) Not all graphs have been updated.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86321] EDITING, FORMATTING: diagram didn't automatic update when change variable (recalculation not triggered)

2020-10-29 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86321

--- Comment #84 from VLB  ---
> First question: Does the test from comment #28 test for "First bug" from
> comment #80, or for "Second bug" (now split out as bug 137735)?
This test comment #28 is for the 2nd bug 137735. 


> Second question: What will constitute a simple test example for the other
> bug (whether "first" or "second") not tested for by the procedure in comment
> #28?
If the 2e bug 137735 is solved, the problem is that when opening multiple
sheets with multiple graphs, randomly determined graphs no longer work. This is
bug 86321.
The thought is that this is due to caching or something similar.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86321] EDITING, FORMATTING: diagram didn't automatic update when change variable (recalculation not triggered)

2020-10-29 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86321

--- Comment #83 from Lars Jødal  ---
(In reply to matthewnote from comment #79)
> Created attachment 166554 [details]
> Compare LO5 modification of Object/content.xml since removed; regression?
> 
> Additional xml compare report for Object/content.xml as described previous
> comment.  LibreOffice Calc 5 adds a new line for each and every Object
> "try-staggering-first".

So LO 5.x worked ok, which could mean that the original bug was solved but then
some new bug caused a regression with the same or similar behaviour. Likely
some optimization of diagram updating that "optimized" recalculation too much.

I have performed the test from comment #28 with a few 5.x versions, and can
confirm that diagram update DOES work for that file. The regression is present
by 6.0.0.0.beta1, while 6.0.0.0.alpha1 does update the diagram.

First question: Does the test from comment #28 test for "First bug" from
comment #80, or for "Second bug" (now split out as bug 137735)?

Second question: What will constitute a simple test example for the other bug
(whether "first" or "second") not tested for by the procedure in comment #28?

(This thread is becoming quite scary just by its size. While details can reveal
new findings, I think that at the present stage we are more in need of simple
test cases with simple descriptions.)

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86321] EDITING, FORMATTING: diagram didn't automatic update when change variable (recalculation not triggered)

2020-10-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86321

--- Comment #82 from VLB  ---
> Second Bug.  When the user saves the file, Calc 4,6,7 save a faulty
> "register".  On re-opening the file any or many charts fail to update (not
> always true and not always the same charts).
See new report bug 137735.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86321] EDITING, FORMATTING: diagram didn't automatic update when change variable (recalculation not triggered)

2020-10-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86321

VLB  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Summary|EDITING, FORMATTING,|EDITING, FORMATTING:
   |FILESAVE: diagram didn't|diagram didn't automatic
   |automatic update when   |update when change variable
   |change variable |(recalculation not
   |(recalculation not  |triggered)
   |triggered)  |

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86321] EDITING, FORMATTING: diagram didn't automatic update when change variable (recalculation not triggered)

2020-10-20 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86321

--- Comment #79 from matthewn...@yahoo.co.uk ---
Created attachment 166554
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=166554=edit
Compare LO5 modification of Object/content.xml since removed; regression?

Additional xml compare report for Object/content.xml as described previous
comment.  LibreOffice Calc 5 adds a new line for each and every Object
"try-staggering-first".

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86321] EDITING, FORMATTING: diagram didn't automatic update when change variable (recalculation not triggered)

2020-10-20 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86321

--- Comment #78 from matthewn...@yahoo.co.uk ---
Created attachment 166553
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=166553=edit
Screenshot; Comparing unzipped odf content.xml between AppImage5 and LO4

More about the Bug - using QXmlEdit to compare the ODF content.xml after saves.

Calc 4.  The screenshot (right hand side in red) shows that the Calc 4 used to
save attachment 109539 writes content.xml using draw:object
 Attributes:
draw:notify-on-update-of-ranges=roX09 . . . . . .

Calc 5.1.6.2 all versions up to 5.4.7 changes the strategy.   The screenshot
(left hand side in green) shows that Calc 5 opens the version 4 file, reads
that Object 17, updates the Chart correctly when data series cell values
change.  Saving the file, Calc 5 deletes the original Attribute (gone), then
adds a completely new element in content.xml one level up at draw:frame
 Attributes:
draw:notify-on-update-of-ranges=roX09 . . . . . .

[Note: Calc 5 then adds another completely new attribute into Object
17/content.xml
Attributes:
loext:try-staggering-first="true" ]

Calc 6 and 7.  These versions remove the Calc 5 strategy and go back to the
same xml organisation as for version 4.   This is deliberate or a regression?

Further evidence.
Calc 5 is therefore very useful for repairing a file or User work.  Every time
the file is saved and reopened, it's repaired.  However, Calc 5 still has this
Bug.   Example of the User dilemma when creating a project:  

Step 1.  Open attachment 109539 using Calc 5.  Click to view sheet roX0_9
Step 2.  Click to view sheet invoer
Step 3.  Delete cell contents of invoer H19:L19.  
Result, all charts update on all sheets (including roX0_9)

Step 4.  Leftclick to view sheet vb_610a
Step 5.  Rightclick "Insert Sheet", "After current sheet" "Name" any.  OK
Step 6.  View again invoer and replace H19:L19 (values 5 4 3 3 3)
Result, charts on invoer are showing triangle points with eight x-axis values,
some are three values.  Three Charts are showing both old and new values (both
eight points and three points are superposed).

Step 7.  View again vb_610a.  Result, none of the charts on that sheet update.
Step 8.  On vb_610a click and drag a chart Area a few pixels.  Chart updates.
Step 9.  View sheet vb_610b, charts are correct.
Step 10. View sheet eg, charts are correct, however the top chart frame is
squashed, causing the triangle symbols to be short.
Step 11. Click and drag top chart area and move it a few pixels.  Draw is good.
Step 12. View sheet loX0_9, charts are already updated correctly.
Step 13. View sheet roX0_9, charts are not updated.  Clickdrag chart areas.
Result, charts now update.

Step 14. File>Save then File>Close then File>Open
Result, all charts on all sheets are updated (in correct draw state).
Step 15. Change any value of the Data Series for any chart
Result, all charts on all sheets update correctly.

LibreOffice Calc 4,5,6,7 all seem to have this Bug.
Only Calc 5 will save the User work and reopen it with all Charts working.
However, using Calc 5 to edit or add sheets causes new failures to update and
those frozen Charts can be anywhere on any sheet.

I've tested with seven LibreOffice versions and the adoption of the LO4 save
content.xml structure came back with precisely LO 6.0.0.  Therefore, File>Save
File>Close then File>Open repair is no longer available for users who have
upgraded.  I've seen LO6.3.5.2 refresh a sheet once, but usually the charts on
other sheets are failing to update.

I hope the xml compare information is useful.  Not sure if I can do more about
this.  For my project, I may remove Calc 6.3.5.2 and install 5.4.7.  It's risky
because I see a lot of bugs have been fixed, including problems with Indirect
Addressing (that my work uses as a basis for it's design).  Well, I'll
contribute more if I can figure out how the summary in RAM of the sheet/chart
situation is corrupted.

Just a reminder:  Once and only once, upgrading from Calc 6.3.5.2 to Calc 7 and
opening the "worst" file first;  it repaired all Charts and generated Object
Replacements for all and the file is still working.  Removing Calc 7 and
reinstalling 6.3.5.2 then doing the upgrade process again did not repair any
file.  The second "installation 7.0" skipped some procedures of dependencies in
Ubuntu 18.04, finding them already new, but I don't have a record of precisely
which ones.  It will be difficult to examine that particular ODF file because
it is 102MB compressed already.  Not many xml editors or compare tools can cope
with the unzipped content.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86321] EDITING, FORMATTING: diagram didn't automatic update when change variable (recalculation not triggered)

2020-10-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86321

--- Comment #77 from matthewn...@yahoo.co.uk ---
(In reply to Buovjaga from comment #49)
> (In reply to Matthew Francis from comment #28)
> > OK, so I see what I did wrong before. The already fixed bug I mentioned in
> > comment 20 was for the chart in the "invoer" sheet, which works in 4.4
> > already
> > 
> > The issue I now see was meant is for the "roX0_9" chart, and is reproduced
> > as follows:
> > 1. Open attachment 114246 [details]
> > 2. Go to sheet "roX0_9"
> > 3. Go to sheet "invoer"
> > 4. Delete H19:L19
> > 5. Go back to sheet "rox0_9"
> > 
> > The diagram at A52:57 has not updated, but shows the updated values when
> > edited.
> > Note that the bug does not reproduce if step 2 is skipped.
> 
> I still reproduce this problem.
> 
> Arch Linux 64-bit
> Version: 7.1.0.0.alpha0+
> Build ID: f08ddf3d3df0ef12fef36e96ffe6f5b9a7fda9e3
> CPU threads: 8; OS: Linux 5.8; UI render: default; VCL: kf5
> Locale: fi-FI (fi_FI.UTF-8); UI: en-US
> Calc: threaded
> Built on 21 September 2020

USER WORKAROUND - QUIT ODF FORMAT - WORK IN XLSX UNTIL BUG FIXED
Please add your vast experience, overview and opinion for Users.

We (LibreOffice and Apache communities) have a fundamental problem.
Education is precisely where LibreOffice can be the best:  yet students
(including Lars, up to PhD level) need to show a graph that shows the data.

I can (am able) to learn Python, having learnt Machine Code (bit manipulation),
Assembler (extreme efficiency), Fortran 4 (precise compiler), Coral 66, SciLabs
2012 (Equivalent MatLab) yet my experience is with Realtime processing
(Raytheon) and no time at all for a new adventure with ODF.  Yet I am
investigating six files here with differences in .xml.

The workaround suggested below is completely ignorant of the multiple
limitations of working with LibreOffice in xlsx format - yet it seems to work.

USER POTENTIAL WORKAROUND while waiting for Bug Fix with more symptoms for
developer info (Step 7-12).

Charts not updating can be made to update by
1.   Click and Drag the chart area a few pixels.
If there are many charts depending on one Series update, User must check all
charts on all sheets.

Charts not updating sometimes can be made to update by
2.   File>Save Restart LibreOffice File>Recent Documents>Open
This rarely works, can take a lot of time and every number change requires
reload.
3.   Zoom in/zoom out the sheet view has be known to cause chart update (but
very rare).
4.   Using AppImage 5.3.6.1 is tested to open faulty files and show charts
updating immediately.  However, it’s usual that the new *.ods file will fail to
update later after more edits.   AppImage 5.3.6.1 as a regular rescue tool
every hour or every day is only available for Linux.   The new *.ods file can
be shared.  Yet opening several files (rescued with AppImage) at the same time
will cause different chart failures.  A method is needed for Windows OS.

NEW FINDING.  Charts not updating will always be made to update by saving in
xlsx format.

5.   The User has a new decision to make.   Using LibreOffice every day in xlsx
format depends on Charts with Data Series formats that transfer well
(triangles, squares, diamonds), simple colours.  The User learns to avoid
Functions that are special to LibreOffice yet impossible to translate for
Excel.  This is difficult (for advanced users).   This method is described
below for Users to test (a clue for developers also).

6.   Users don’t know if this Bug Report will ever be assigned.  If you are a
Student, Teacher or using the spreadsheet to mostly calculate (with simple
graphics) it can be an option to change format now. If the Bug receives
attention in future, then it will be possible to save again in ODF format and
elaborate/clean the cell functions from that new LO version.Of course, for
engineers, scientists, students and teachers it is basic that the plot shows
the same numbers as the cell.  The Bug causes much doubt, mistrust and stress. 
An occasional review of the xlsx file progress is, perhaps, less painful.

Testing the file suitability with this method.
7.  IF the spreadsheet file is mostly technical or mathematical, this
Workaround may be suitable.  If the spreadsheet has scatter charts with the
series formatted in special colours and symbols for presentation, it will need
some work or can be done later (after BugFix) with ODF advantages.  If the file
uses Indirect Adressing or Functions the new file need be checked thoroughly.

8.  The Workaround (for a file with ordinary charts) is to change to Excel
2007-365 XLSX format until the ODF Bug is fixed.

9.  When the charts fail to update or when testing to do it deliberately,
File>Save As> (bottom right filetype) select xlsx Excel 2007-365.  
A new name is useful like "abcde XLSX.xlsx" to make it obvious when using a
File Manager.  LibreOffice will ask are you sure? A warning will appear that
some details or calculations may be lost.  User can 

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86321] EDITING, FORMATTING: diagram didn't automatic update when change variable (recalculation not triggered)

2020-10-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86321

--- Comment #76 from VLB  ---
The issue may have been brought closer to a solution in comment 75 by the
observations. If more information is needed for the solution, we will gladly
inform you.

There is also an additional observation and is the following:
1) Save the files with graphics in a * .xlsx file.
2) In this file type the graphs are displayed correctly after data is changed,
compared to * .ods file.
3) The disadvantage of this is that the files are 3 times as large.
4) Certain sheets are not yet properly converted to * .xslx, so it cannot be
used for all sheets.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86321] EDITING, FORMATTING: diagram didn't automatic update when change variable (recalculation not triggered)

2020-10-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86321

--- Comment #75 from VLB  ---
Here is a small update, thanks to the efforts of Matthew!

I had my 3 private sheets saved by Matthew in Appimage and tested them in LO
7.0.1.2 and worked well, with all graphs processed properly.

Then I opened several files (which had been processed with Appimage and then I
came to an important signal that the graphs were no longer processed properly.

An important thing had emerged which may have to do with memory and that the
graphs are therefore no longer displayed properly.
It would be greatly appreciated if this new finding clarifies the problem
definition and if a solution can be sought.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86321] EDITING, FORMATTING: diagram didn't automatic update when change variable (recalculation not triggered)

2020-10-08 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86321

--- Comment #74 from SRS  ---
Was able to duplicate it a third time under Lubuntu (Ubuntu with a different
desktop, whose name I forget).
It is on an Ultrabook with a Core i3 processor
Ubuntu is 20.04

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86321] EDITING, FORMATTING: diagram didn't automatic update when change variable (recalculation not triggered)

2020-10-08 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86321

--- Comment #73 from matthewn...@yahoo.co.uk ---
*** Bug 136160 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86321] EDITING, FORMATTING: diagram didn't automatic update when change variable (recalculation not triggered)

2020-10-08 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86321

--- Comment #72 from SRS  ---
I have just reproduced the bug a second time as described in my previous
comment #71.
I have another computer with Ubuntu installed.  If I have time, I will try to
reproduce it there.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86321] EDITING, FORMATTING: diagram didn't automatic update when change variable (recalculation not triggered)

2020-10-08 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86321

--- Comment #71 from SRS  ---
I was able to reproduce as described in comment 70.  I've repeated the
description below and inserted some notes as to exactly what I did:
1. Open attachment 114246 [details]
{note -- I just clicked on the attachment number and downloaded the file}
{note -- when I saw the pop-up about macros being enabled, I disabled them.}
> 2. Go to sheet "roX0_9"
> 3. Go to sheet "invoer"
> 4. Delete H19:L19
{note -- here I got an error because I was in read-only mode, so I went into
edit mode.}
> 5. Go back to sheet "rox0_9"
{At this point, I saw the bug in all its glory, as described in comment 70.}

Here's all the information that might be relevant about my environment:
Hardware: Dell Inspiron 620 with 8GB memory, 64-bit
OS: Win7 home premium, SP 1
LibreOffice information:
Version: 7.0.1.2 (x64)
Build ID: 7cbcfc562f6eb6708b5ff7d7397325de9e764452
CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 6.1 Service Pack 1 Build 7601; UI render:
Skia/Raster; VCL: win
Locale: en-US (en_US); UI: en-US
Calc: threaded

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86321] EDITING, FORMATTING: diagram didn't automatic update when change variable (recalculation not triggered)

2020-10-08 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86321

--- Comment #70 from Lars Jødal  ---
(In reply to Matthew Francis from comment #28)
> OK, so I see what I did wrong before. The already fixed bug I mentioned in
> comment 20 was for the chart in the "invoer" sheet, which works in 4.4
> already
> 
> The issue I now see was meant is for the "roX0_9" chart, and is reproduced
> as follows:
> 1. Open attachment 114246 [details]
> 2. Go to sheet "roX0_9"
> 3. Go to sheet "invoer"
> 4. Delete H19:L19
> 5. Go back to sheet "rox0_9"
> 
> The diagram at A52:57 has not updated, but shows the updated values when
> edited.
> Note that the bug does not reproduce if step 2 is skipped.

Just tested with LO 7.0.2.2 on Win10. (Macros disabled.) The bug is still
present: 
After deletion of the cells in step 4, the chart in sheet "roX0_9" us
unchanged. Double-clicking on the chart makes the change come through (less
points in the plot, lines reflecting the points that are now present). When the
chart misses focus, e.g. clicking outside the chart, it reverts back.

User profile reset: Yes, just before the test.

OpenGL: Bug is present both with and without OpenGL.

Conclusion: The bug is still present in LO 7.0.2.2, it is still expressed on
Windows (not only Linux), and the above example is file of reasonable size (2.4
MB) and easy-to-reproduce instructions.

Further considerations:
Comment #19 indicates a commit that introduced at least some variant of the
bug, although comment #20 indicates that a later commit appeared to fix the
bug. Given that we still struggle with these problems, perhaps the commit
solved part of the problem. Definitely, the problems is not fully gone, as
demonstrated by a number of comments, this one included.

Version: 7.0.2.2 (x64)
Build ID: 8349ace3c3162073abd90d81fd06dcfb6b36b994
CPU threads: 8; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 19041; UI render: Skia/Vulkan; VCL: win
Locale: da-DK (da_DK); UI: da-DK
Calc: threaded

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86321] EDITING, FORMATTING: diagram didn't automatic update when change variable (recalculation not triggered)

2020-10-08 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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matthewn...@yahoo.co.uk changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||chrisdeco...@yahoo.com

--- Comment #69 from matthewn...@yahoo.co.uk ---
*** Bug 136254 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86321] EDITING, FORMATTING: diagram didn't automatic update when change variable (recalculation not triggered)

2020-10-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86321

--- Comment #68 from matthewn...@yahoo.co.uk ---
Thankyou VLB

For developers.

Overall impression.

1.  Any installed/integrated version of LibreOffice Calc on Windows or Linux
can cause Charts to fail to update, begin again to update, then it's a
different chart that fails, then it is many.  The situation changes with every
load/save or edit/save.  VLB's attachment is rare because the fault stays the
same. (This was tested also on Xenial Puppy Linux using either Apache or
LibreOffice:  same problem).

2.  An appropriate AppImage executable (that matches the original file that
stimulates errors in the installed verions) will immediately work with all
charts updating on all sheets.  This is the effect I have tested here on Ubuntu
20.04
, Ubuntu 18.04.  It also works/charts update using a Xenial Puppy Linux
LibreOffice 6 .sfs standalone.  The User can make progress with his/her
project.

3.  Saving a file using AppImage can repair it.  That saved file can work
immediately in installed LibreOffice versions on Linux or Windows (or maybe
not).  It takes a lot more testing to learn if that will break it again later.

4.  AppImage treatment can
   a.  delete some ObjectReplacement files (about half disappear, if any).
   b.  insert new lines into Object\ content.xml, such as
   loext:min-decimal-places="0"
   loext:try-staggering-first="true"
   oext:try-staggering-first="false"


Please guide me what work to do about .xml compare that might help you.  I use
https://prettydiff.com.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86321] EDITING, FORMATTING: diagram didn't automatic update when change variable (recalculation not triggered)

2020-10-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86321

--- Comment #67 from VLB  ---
(In reply to matthewnote from comment #66)
> (In reply to VLB from comment #64)
> > 
> > I have test attachment 166115 [details] in wi10 LO  7.0.1.1 (x64).
> > 
> > All graphs work, except for the graph on the 1st sheet "invoer". This chart
> > will not be updated.
> 
> Good morning.  Checking again here, all charts function with AppImage.  With
> 7.0.1.1 on Windows, which of the four charts is the only one to fail to
> update on "invoer"?  The chart covering cell A58, M58, M66 or M74?

The test was in LO 7.0.1.2 (x64) and not 7.0.1.1

I tested again this morning and amazingly all graphs are now being updated
(including the graphs on the 1st sheet).
Yesterday it was all 4 graphs on the 1st page that were not updated.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86321] EDITING, FORMATTING: diagram didn't automatic update when change variable (recalculation not triggered)

2020-10-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86321

--- Comment #66 from matthewn...@yahoo.co.uk ---
(In reply to VLB from comment #64)
> 
> I have test attachment 166115 [details] in wi10 LO  7.0.1.1 (x64).
> 
> All graphs work, except for the graph on the 1st sheet "invoer". This chart
> will not be updated.

Good morning.  Checking again here, all charts function with AppImage.  With
7.0.1.1 on Windows, which of the four charts is the only one to fail to update
on "invoer"?  The chart covering cell A58, M58, M66 or M74?

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86321] EDITING, FORMATTING: diagram didn't automatic update when change variable (recalculation not triggered)

2020-10-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #65 from matthewn...@yahoo.co.uk ---
(In reply to VLB from comment #64)
> > Would ladies, gentlemen please test the "seems repaired" VLB sample on
> > Windows and report result?  Attached with this message.  Method is at
> > comment 28.
> > 
> 
> I have test attachment 166115 [details] in wi10 LO  7.0.1.1 (x64).
> 
> All graphs work, except for the graph on the 1st sheet "invoer". This chart
> will not be updated.
> 
> I have download the file AppImage. I also tried to use the file in Ubuntu,
> but my knowledge in Ubuntu is limited.
> How do I make the file executable?

With Ubuntu here, mouse- cursor over the file symbol or name.  Click mouse
(right button), "Properties" "permissions".  At lowest box of the dialogue
"Make file executable".  Close dialogue box.  Doubleclick the file.  Works for
you?

With all the project here, there's a user impression that all or any
LibreOffice full install may start correctly then later charts stop updating
(sometimes whole sheets of charts).  Thank you for your test 7.0.1.1 ( an
installed version).  

I will be using only AppImage for a few days or weeks with several files to
learn if it's more "stable", temporary fix or a permanent repair (only for
continuous AppImage use in future).

For a few more days now I'm working through the .xml  (including content.xml)
files of your LiggerV26 to find if there's an obvious difference.  I've found
some differences already.  For a developer who looks at this, VLB's file has
the chart (not updating) Object number 15.  AppImage keeps the same object
numbers; cleans up (removes) some ObjectReplacements; sets additional loext
values in content.xml etcetera.  I'll report later if something seems pertinent
about that.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86321] EDITING, FORMATTING: diagram didn't automatic update when change variable (recalculation not triggered)

2020-10-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86321

--- Comment #64 from VLB  ---

> Would ladies, gentlemen please test the "seems repaired" VLB sample on
> Windows and report result?  Attached with this message.  Method is at
> comment 28.
> 

I have test attachment 166115 in wi10 LO  7.0.1.1 (x64).

All graphs work, except for the graph on the 1st sheet "invoer". This chart
will not be updated.

I have download the file AppImage. I also tried to use the file in Ubuntu, but
my knowledge in Ubuntu is limited.
How do I make the file executable?

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86321] EDITING, FORMATTING: diagram didn't automatic update when change variable (recalculation not triggered)

2020-10-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86321

--- Comment #63 from matthewn...@yahoo.co.uk ---
Pardon.  To clarify.  The VLB file that seems "repaired" is attachment 166115.
It now works here (chart updates) on fully installed Linux LibreOffice
versions.
Requesting test on a Windows system and other Linux versions.

For VLB. For Lars. If you have a new current project with "broken" charts using
a more recent version of Calc I offer to attempt to repair them for you.  Just
send them to me by email or any google drive you can give access.  This
computer handles files up to 102MB without difficulty (about 9GB in RAM). 
Well, just an offer if it helps you out.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86321] EDITING, FORMATTING: diagram didn't automatic update when change variable (recalculation not triggered)

2020-10-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #62 from matthewn...@yahoo.co.uk ---
Created attachment 166115
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=166115=edit
AppImage bundles can repair "broken" charts on any file? Windows test please.

(In reply to Eike Rathke from comment #40)
> This doesn't even seem to be a Calc problem, one can as well directly modify
> the values in the chart's (Object 15) data range $roX0_9.$U$9:$U$18 (i.e.
> set U13:U18 to 8 which is the same value as when deleting invoer.H19:L19, or
> any other value fwiw) and the chart does not update. BUT, double clicking it
> reveals the updated chart according to the values. Leaving the chart again
> displays the old values. Also modifying the data ranges for data series
> 'Column V' doesn't change that. Something seems to be broken with the chart
> view representation (old replacement/preview view used?).

Tested VLB's attachment sample here on two Linux PCs.
File repair accomplished on Linux machines.

1.  Download AppImage from Antonio's library of old versions:
https://libreoffice.soluzioniopen.com/old/LibreOffice-5.3.6-x86_64.AppImage

2.  Make the file executable.  Run the AppImage on either Ubuntu 18.04 or
20.04.
Tools>Options>Load/Save>General> switch off autorecovery saving, check ODF
format set to 1.2 (Extended).

3.  Open attachment 109539 or attachment 114246 or my sample attachment 165696.

4.  All Charts update with any user operation (here).

5.  Save the resulting file to a new file name (necessary before step 6).

6.  Files now load, charts now update (all samples) on Installed Calc versions
LO6.3.5.2 on Ubuntu 18.04.  LO7.0.1.2 on Ubuntu 20.04.
Repaired files now load, charts update on AppImage version LO5.3.6.1 and
AppImage version LO6.5.3.2 and AppImage version (fresh) LO7.0.1.2.


7.  For Users reading this Bug, the AppImage project produces "boxed" full
LibreOffice versions without installing anything.  This is similar to .sfs
"boxed" full versions available to Linux Puppy users.  (I don't know if Windows
has or will have an equivalent).   So, for Windows OS users, you'll need to
find a friend or a Linux partition to use AppImages as repair tool.

8.  For Developers.
a.  Antonio's AppImage 4.1.0.4 failed to start on either Linux 18.04 or 20.04.
b.  AppImage 6.3.5.2 ran on both Linux yet failed to cause chart updates.
c.  AppImage 6.3.5.2 opens all, charts updates if they've been save at least
once using AppImage 5.3.6.1.
d.  AppImage 5.3.6.1 (the successful Repair Tool) failed to run on Fossa 20.04
at the first try, yet double-clicking it later and again later (the third
occasion), the application launched (very strange!).  It seems only Antonio's
7.0.1.2 "fresh" has a Fossa Ubuntu 20.04 flavour.  Not sure why the AppImage
5.3.6.1 had difficulty attracting software interrupt attention.  Another clue?

Would ladies, gentlemen please test the "seems repaired" VLB sample on Windows
and report result?  Attached with this message.  Method is at comment 28.

[By the way, the Repair Method using AppImage works also for my upload and this
morning I tried it out on the very large (102MB) Diabetes file study here with
42 charts.  Half of the charts were "broken" and now . . . . . . all are
working!  I'm very happy this morning).

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86321] EDITING, FORMATTING: diagram didn't automatic update when change variable (recalculation not triggered)

2020-10-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86321

--- Comment #61 from matthewn...@yahoo.co.uk ---
VLB's file attachment 114246 tested using method at comment #28

The file meta.xml shows generator as
LibreOffice/4.4.1.2$Windows_x86
LibreOffice_project/45e2de17089c24a1fa810c8f975a7171ba4cd432

Tested on Calc 7.0.1.2 on Fossa 20.04.  Chart fails to update.
Tested on Calc 6.3.5.2 on Ubuntu Bionic Beaver 18.04.  Chart fails to update.

Unzipped the .ods.  VLB's file does have an ObjectReplacements folder and
manifest.xml entries showing full-path to that folder for each and every
Object.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86321] EDITING, FORMATTING: diagram didn't automatic update when change variable (recalculation not triggered)

2020-10-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #60 from matthewn...@yahoo.co.uk ---
After a purge of ppa LO7.0.1.2, Ubuntu BBeaver 18.04 offered LO6.3.5.2, so
installed that.

Results.
Testing attachment 165696 the chart fails to update (as before).
Testing the test.ods (same as 165696 but with manually edited manifest.xml and
manually added ObjectReplacements folder) chart fails to update.

Saved the test.ods as a copy using LO6.3.5.2 then unzip to find out changes. 
The software run removed/cleaned the manual entries from manifest.xml and
ignored/deleted the manually added ObjectReplacements folder.

Provisional conclusion:  
1.  A User is unable to provoke the generation of ObjectReplacements.  
2.  Use of LO7.0.1.2 sometimes will cause the attachment file Chart to update
and sometimes not.  
3.  The LO7.0.1.2 first upgrade/install on Ubuntu 18.04 caused a freak incident
that repaired a very large file, only once (which uniquely has a software
generated ObjectReplacements folder). It also broke a partly working very large
file such that no Charts update; none at all (without generating the mystery
ObjectReplacements folder either in that case).
4. Unfortunately, LO7.0.1.2 works only sporadically as a repair tool.

more testing on VLB's file to be done.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86321] EDITING, FORMATTING: diagram didn't automatic update when change variable (recalculation not triggered)

2020-10-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86321

--- Comment #59 from matthewn...@yahoo.co.uk ---
Testing attachment 165696 not working LO 6.4.6.2

I attempted a manual modification of my attachment .ods to cause Calc to
generate ObjectReplacements folder and object binaries.  The idea was to cause
it to be the same as the unique unusual very large file here which always works
(unbreakable so far and has the unique ObjectReplacements folder).

1.  Unzipped 165696 .ods
2.  Edited META-INF manifest.xml
3.  Added line full-path for each and every Object (example 462) known also in
the manifest.xml



4.  Added manually new empty folder ObjectReplacements (ready for Calc to
insert binaries or due to Bug odd behaviour perhaps cause/Enable cache/Table
redraw triggering).  Don't know so try it out . . . .
5.  Zipped everything up using zip -r ../test.ods mimetype *
6.  Unzip again to check the full list and again the manifest.  All OK there.
7.  Run test.ods on LO7.0.1.2 on Fossa 20.04.  Charts update (!).  So a repair
may have occurred.  
8.  However, saving a copy as "tested on LO7.ods", unzip it, the manual changes
have been eliminated/deleted.  The folder has gone and the manifest entry also.
 It will take a while to learn if the 165696 file is now unbreakable.  Usually
a few edits, copies, new sheets or copy a chart will break other charts.

9.  Run test.ods (reconstructed file with manual mods) on LO7.0.1.2 on Bionic
Beaver 18.04.  Results as for steps 7 and 8. Charts now work.  Manual
modifications also eliminated after saving.

Next I'll test VLB's file and test.ods on LO6.4.5.2.  (I purge the repository
ppa of LO7 to do that.  Ubuntu 18.04 goes back to default companion package
6.x.x.x.

Anyone know why one use of LO7.0.1.2 will create ObjectReplacements and another
use will delete the folder?

More later. . . .

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86321] EDITING, FORMATTING: diagram didn't automatic update when change variable (recalculation not triggered)

2020-10-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #58 from matthewn...@yahoo.co.uk ---
Additional note/reminder for others reading this thread.
My sample file is only done on Ubuntu LO 6.   I don't have a Windows
workstation here.  LibreOffice is chosen for the project because the medical
data is coming in from all over the world, from some very remote regions. 
Isolated groups of up to 100 000 people is (in this subject) the most valuable
and it's extremely accurate.  They can be seriously ill and it gets reported
precisely.  However, for many, access to information technology is only for a
few administrators, beyond the reach of nurses and clinical staff with near no
budget for that.  Pen and paper only.  With LibreOffice, if they have access at
home, the intention is to provide three levels of spreadsheet
complexity/capability and they can see it for themselves.  It's an ideal
scenario for open source software - once I can share it.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86321] EDITING, FORMATTING: diagram didn't automatic update when change variable (recalculation not triggered)

2020-10-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86321

--- Comment #57 from matthewn...@yahoo.co.uk ---
(In reply to Lars Jødal from comment #56)
> Interesting. I tested attachment 165696 [details] on two different
> installations (on two different computers, both running Win10), running the
> current "still" and "fresh" versions of LO. More details below, but the
> result was that update did NOT work on LO 6.4.6.2, while update DID work on
> LO 7.0.1.2.
> 
> Test file: matthewnote's attachment 165696 [details]
> 
> Doing what: Cell L259 on sheet "The SWITCHexpanded" contains the number 17.
> Changing 17 to 25 should give a visible change to the XY plot covering about
> C283 to P341 (based on description in comment 46).
> 
> Results with LO 6.4.6.2: Changing 17 -> 25 gives no visible effect.
> CTRL-SHIFT-F9 does not change that. Double-clicking on the diagram does give
> the effect (points move to a different configuration), but it is reversed
> when focus leaves the diagram. Conclusion: Update does NOT work.
> 
> Version: 6.4.6.2 (x64)
> Build ID: 0ce51a4fd21bff07a5c061082cc82c5ed232f115
> CPU threads: 8; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 19041; UI render: default; VCL: win; 
> Locale: da-DK (da_DK); UI-Language: en-GB
> Calc: threaded
> 
> Results with LO 7.0.1.2: Changing 17 -> 25 changes the plot within a
> fraction of a second. Conclusion: Update DOES work.
> 
> Version: 7.0.1.2 (x64)
> Build ID: 7cbcfc562f6eb6708b5ff7d7397325de9e764452
> CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 19041; UI render: Skia/Raster; VCL:
> win
> Locale: da-DK (da_DK); UI: da-DK
> Calc: threaded
> 
> @matthewnote: I will email you a saved version of the file. Have you tried a
> user profile reset?

Thankyou Lars

Yes, I've been doing all Safe Modes.   Specifically, only one file here (of
about three hundred) updates charts and I'm unable to cause any of them to
break (for the moment, yet only for that file).  How did that happen?  I was
creating spreadsheets with versions up to 6.4.5.2 (the Ubuntu 18.04 Bionic
Beaver tested companion LibreOffice versions upgrade about every three months
that they recommend as "conservative").   All work had broken charts after a
day or a week.  So I tried out reconstructing a large file by starting a new
ODF and  sheet by sheet "Insert sheet from file" (from faulty file to fresh
start).  A type of "importing" to build up a new one.   Still unsuccessful.  A
message circulated on the web that a Ubuntu 18.04 conservative user could ppa
install LO 7.0.1.2 and purge it out to the default "official" LO 6 if necessary
(go-back possible).   Nothing to lose so I did that.  The install overwrites a
lot yet completed just fine.

First try with the fresh file under reconstruction using LO 7.0.1.2 and all
charts worked.  All of them.  Amazing. My first and only ever.  So, I tried to
rescue another key file of the project here the same way, identical procedure -
and none of the charts worked, none at all.  All safe modes explored.  

To test the possibility "Upgrading to LO 7 gives you one shot with one file to
cause one repair" I purged LO 7, restarted Linux with 6.4.5.2;  then restart
again, then re-do the ppa LO 7.  Same message "Welcome to LO 7 - did you know
etcetera" apparently with a fresh user profile.   However it didn't cause the
second file to repair and run correctly.   There's a possibility that if I wipe
the workstation disk or attempt a dual boot to a separate partition and go up
through the procedure again, perhaps I can get "one more success" for one more
file.  However, for the moment I'm exploring files by unzipping them and
reading their .xml

I have found one significant difference with the only
stable-always-working-charts-update file.  Unzipping the .ods, reveals that it
has a folder that my other files lack.  \ObjectReplacements.  In that folder
there is a binary file for each and every chart object listed in the manifest
(META-INF/manifest.xml).  The binaries (that apparently came from nowhere) are
Type STL 3D model (binary) (model/x.stl-binary) according to Linux.  Never
heard of it.  The total folder content is 124 MB (the contents of that folder
unzipped) which is very light.  Once the file is opened (takes 7 GB of RAM) I
don't see a significant increase in use of memory.

The manifest.xml of the fully working file also has a difference.  It points to
that extra folder ;
full-path="ObjectReplacements/Object n"
manifest:media-type="application/x-openoffice-gdimetafile;windows_formatname=GDIMetaFile"
None of the broken files have that xml manifest entry.

None of the broken files have that folder.  Most of them are listing
manifest:manifest
xmlns:manifest="urn:oasis:names:tc:opendocument:xmlns:manifest:1.0"
manifest:version="1.2"
xmlns:loext="urn:org:documentfoundation:names:experimental:office:xmlns:loext:1.0">
 

yet a few broken files state they're configured for manifest:version="1.3" (the
latest).  The only fully working file uses "1.3" also.

So I continue to search to learn about 

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86321] EDITING, FORMATTING: diagram didn't automatic update when change variable (recalculation not triggered)

2020-09-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86321

--- Comment #56 from Lars Jødal  ---
Interesting. I tested attachment 165696 on two different installations (on two
different computers, both running Win10), running the current "still" and
"fresh" versions of LO. More details below, but the result was that update did
NOT work on LO 6.4.6.2, while update DID work on LO 7.0.1.2.

Test file: matthewnote's attachment 165696

Doing what: Cell L259 on sheet "The SWITCHexpanded" contains the number 17.
Changing 17 to 25 should give a visible change to the XY plot covering about
C283 to P341 (based on description in comment 46).

Results with LO 6.4.6.2: Changing 17 -> 25 gives no visible effect.
CTRL-SHIFT-F9 does not change that. Double-clicking on the diagram does give
the effect (points move to a different configuration), but it is reversed when
focus leaves the diagram. Conclusion: Update does NOT work.

Version: 6.4.6.2 (x64)
Build ID: 0ce51a4fd21bff07a5c061082cc82c5ed232f115
CPU threads: 8; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 19041; UI render: default; VCL: win; 
Locale: da-DK (da_DK); UI-Language: en-GB
Calc: threaded

Results with LO 7.0.1.2: Changing 17 -> 25 changes the plot within a fraction
of a second. Conclusion: Update DOES work.

Version: 7.0.1.2 (x64)
Build ID: 7cbcfc562f6eb6708b5ff7d7397325de9e764452
CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 19041; UI render: Skia/Raster; VCL: win
Locale: da-DK (da_DK); UI: da-DK
Calc: threaded

@matthewnote: I will email you a saved version of the file. Have you tried a
user profile reset?

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86321] EDITING, FORMATTING: diagram didn't automatic update when change variable (recalculation not triggered)

2020-09-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86321

--- Comment #55 from matthewn...@yahoo.co.uk ---
(In reply to Lars Jødal from comment #47)
> Importance: I agree that trustworthy updating of plots is important,
> especially if you work with many plots. A few years ago, I used LO for my
> Ph.D. project, and it was huge problem to me that plots very often did not
> update - I did not know which plots I could trust, and there were a lot of
> them, so a workaround of moving all plot a few pixels each was very
> unattractive. (But yes, I kept using LO, and I am still a user.)
> 
> Pinning it down: Like matthewnote writes, it is not an issue that is easy to
> pin down. I have mostly experienced it with many plots, something many users
> are not going to do.
> 
> Status of the bug? I just tested matthewnote's sample file, attachment
> 165696 [details], using LO 7.0.1.2 on Win10. Interestingly, the plot does
> seem to update immediately (well, within a second), while I can confirm that
> the Y axis seem to prefer to start from 0 when autoscaling. However,
> matthewnote includes 7.0.1.2 among the tested versions that still has the
> bug. Can others reproduce the non-updata part of the bug with the 7.0.x line
> of LO? See description in comment 46.
> 
> (If one day only the autoscaling problem is left, it is probably better to
> open a new bug about that problem, which should be much more simple to
> describe.)
> 
> Version: 7.0.1.2 (x64)
> Build ID: 7cbcfc562f6eb6708b5ff7d7397325de9e764452
> CPU threads: 8; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 19041; UI render: Skia/Vulkan; VCL:
> win
> Locale: da-DK (da_DK); UI: da-DK
> Calc: threaded

Thankyou Lars for your observations.  This week I'm putting off returning to
Cancer research (unpaid, as it often is) and investigating this Bug.  I may
have a clue after unzipping the files and inspecting Object folders.  There is
a difference and somewhere, Calc versions may decompress/infer objects
differently when opening.  When saving, there are new additional folders which
I find in "working spreadsheets" (!) and find also a different
META-INF/manifest.xml manifest:version.  (version 1.3 rather than 1.2).  No
idea yet how a Calc version did that, yet willing to learn.

Would you have a moment to open again my attachment
http://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=165696
check it's still working with you, save it with a new name using your Windows
Build and send it to me by email?

I've two Linux workstations here, no Windows.
Are you still on precisely the same LO Calc Version and Build?  It may be one
of the few that gets this right.

By the way, I did consider virus (really!) and had the sample file scanned by
15 different virus scanners.  All well there.

Hopefully yours
Matthew

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86321] EDITING, FORMATTING: diagram didn't automatic update when change variable (recalculation not triggered)

2020-09-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86321

--- Comment #54 from Buovjaga  ---
(In reply to Lars Jødal from comment #53)
> As for myself, I am not into the LO code, knows nobody personally who is,
> and do not have the money for hiring somebody to do the job. So I attempt to
> make good bug reports with easy-to-reproduce examples (when possible), and
> then settle for option 4.

Remember that you don't have to limit yourself to creating reports, you can
also analyse the reports of others, which can be very valuable:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/GetInvolved#Quick_start_guide_for_beginners

I'm not going to debate the severity, but we define even minor as making it
"substantially harder to make high quality work or require users to not use
some features":
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/0/06/Prioritizing_Bugs_Flowchart.jpg

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86321] EDITING, FORMATTING: diagram didn't automatic update when change variable (recalculation not triggered)

2020-09-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86321

--- Comment #53 from Lars Jødal  ---
I have changed the "Severity" field from "minor" to "normal". 

It is definitely more than just a minor nuisance, and those of us experiencing
the bug may consider it major, but it seems that we are only a minority of
users experiencing (or noticing?) the bug, so I kept at "normal".

In any case, let's remember that LO is a project mostly performed by
volunteers, and however a given bug is flagged, it is only fixed if somebody
does fix it. With Bugzilla we have a flexible system for reporting bugs and
providing examples. (If there is something similar for commercial systems like
MS Office, I am not aware of it.) As I saw regarding some other bug that was
very annoying to a user, a user has the following options after reporting a
bug:

1. Fix it yourself. After all, the code is freely available, and volunteers
fixing bugs are how most bugs are fixed.
https://www.libreoffice.org/community/developers/

2. Convince someone to fix it. Works best if you happen to know a programmer
who is already doing work on LO.

3. Pay somebody to fix it. If you or your company have the money for it, there
are professional developers that fix LO bugs, incorporating the fix into the
mainline so everybody can benefit from the fix.
https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/professional-support/

4. Wait.

As for myself, I am not into the LO code, knows nobody personally who is, and
do not have the money for hiring somebody to do the job. So I attempt to make
good bug reports with easy-to-reproduce examples (when possible), and then
settle for option 4. It can be annoying when the bug or enhancement request is
important to me, but that is my option. And it does not stop me from being
thankful that LO is there at all - in some cases with better features than MSO,
in other cases with not quite as good features, but in all cases free to use if
I want it.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86321] EDITING, FORMATTING: diagram didn't automatic update when change variable (recalculation not triggered)

2020-09-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Lars Jødal  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Severity|minor   |normal

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86321] EDITING, FORMATTING: diagram didn't automatic update when change variable (recalculation not triggered)

2020-09-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86321

--- Comment #52 from VLB  ---
> 
> Users try out OpenOffice then leave, going back to Excel due to this.
> Will attempt to find out if Apache Bug report exists.  This topic is more
> than MAB or a "slight loss in productivity".  The charts create well,
> present well, yet unless they update, it's unrealistic for a project that
> will be shared and a huge shock for a user who invests heavily before
> finding this out.

As a user of LO I can confirm this and it is essential that this works well!
In my work as a constructor, misinterpretations are regularly done, because the
graph gives wrong information after updating the values.
This can lead to serious construction errors with the consequences!
I would really appreciate it if this important issue can be resolved.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86321] EDITING, FORMATTING: diagram didn't automatic update when change variable (recalculation not triggered)

2020-09-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86321

matthewn...@yahoo.co.uk changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13
   ||6254

--- Comment #51 from matthewn...@yahoo.co.uk ---
More history about this "data value changes, charts not".  Calc 4.1.3.2.

Apache OpenOffice has the same problem since 2014 and still does (June 2020).

The earliest/last known version of LibreOffice Calc that would open a broken
Apache .ods and show the charts updating consistently (by comparison and file
rescue attempts) was reported to be Calc 4.1.3.2.

https://forum-test.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?t=71092=370292

Users try out OpenOffice then leave, going back to Excel due to this.
Will attempt to find out if Apache Bug report exists.  This topic is more than
MAB or a "slight loss in productivity".  The charts create well, present well,
yet unless they update, it's unrealistic for a project that will be shared and
a huge shock for a user who invests heavily before finding this out.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86321] EDITING, FORMATTING: diagram didn't automatic update when change variable (recalculation not triggered)

2020-09-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86321

--- Comment #50 from matthewn...@yahoo.co.uk ---
More history about this "data value changes, charts not".  Calc 4.1.3.2.

Apache OpenOffice has the same problem since 2014 and still does (June 2020).

The earliest/last known version of LibreOffice Calc that would open a broken
Apache .ods and show the charts updating consistently (by comparison and file
rescue attempts) was reported to be Calc 4.1.3.2.

https://forum-test.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?t=71092=370292

Users try out OpenOffice then leave, going back to Excel due to this.
Will attempt to find out if Apache Bug report exists.  This topic is more than
MAB or a "slight loss in productivity".  The charts create well, present well,
yet unless they update, it's unrealistic for a project that will be shared and
a huge shock for a user who invests heavily before finding this out.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86321] EDITING, FORMATTING: diagram didn't automatic update when change variable (recalculation not triggered)

2020-09-23 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86321

--- Comment #49 from Buovjaga  ---
(In reply to Matthew Francis from comment #28)
> OK, so I see what I did wrong before. The already fixed bug I mentioned in
> comment 20 was for the chart in the "invoer" sheet, which works in 4.4
> already
> 
> The issue I now see was meant is for the "roX0_9" chart, and is reproduced
> as follows:
> 1. Open attachment 114246 [details]
> 2. Go to sheet "roX0_9"
> 3. Go to sheet "invoer"
> 4. Delete H19:L19
> 5. Go back to sheet "rox0_9"
> 
> The diagram at A52:57 has not updated, but shows the updated values when
> edited.
> Note that the bug does not reproduce if step 2 is skipped.

I still reproduce this problem.

Arch Linux 64-bit
Version: 7.1.0.0.alpha0+
Build ID: f08ddf3d3df0ef12fef36e96ffe6f5b9a7fda9e3
CPU threads: 8; OS: Linux 5.8; UI render: default; VCL: kf5
Locale: fi-FI (fi_FI.UTF-8); UI: en-US
Calc: threaded
Built on 21 September 2020

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86321] EDITING, FORMATTING: diagram didn't automatic update when change variable (recalculation not triggered)

2020-09-23 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86321

--- Comment #48 from matthewn...@yahoo.co.uk ---
This problem is also consulted on "Ask LibreOffice" since Calc 4.4.3 2015.
https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/53027/chart-does-not-update-when-cell-content-change/

Alex Kemp closed it as "not relevant or outdated".  No idea why.  So the users
go away from LibreOffice or a few come here.

This Bug and Bugs #136254 #136160.

Update.  The sample file from me has received further testing.
1.  Someone else's PC with Apache OpenOffice 4.1.1 (2014) on Puppy Linux.
Result.  Chart fails to update when a cell value is changed.

2.  Apache OpenOffice 4.1.7 (2019) on Puppy Linux.
Result.  Chart fails to update.

3.  LibreOffice Calc 6.4.5.2 on Ubuntu Fossa 20.04 (Linux 5.4).
Result.  Chart fails to update.

4.  Calc 7.0.1.2 package 1:7.0.1-0ubuntu1_oibaf~f installed by automatic
upgrade on same Ubuntu Fossa 20.04.
Result.   Chart started working!  File saved.

5.  Opened the saved file from Fossa PC on a different PC.
Calc 6.3.5.2 (1:6.3.5~rc2-0ubuntu0.18.04.1~lo1) on Ubuntu 18.04 (Linux 4.15)
Result.  The new sample file seen to work once on Fossa - not working here.

6.  Update computer to Calc 7.0.1.2 (package 1:7.0.1_rc2-0ubuntu0.18.04.1)
Result.  The new sample file that works on Fossa - works here too.  Chart
updates.

7.  The original broken file (attached to this Bug report) opened on the Ubuntu
18.04 computer as at test 6 using Calc 7.0.1.2.
Result.  The old sample file (broken) now works.  Chart update.

Implications.  It seems possible to find a system configuration that will load
a file with broken charts causing them to "work".   That saved, the "possibly
repaired" file can be used on the computer with all-loads-fail (including safe
modes) and it works there.   Then, very surprising, the computer with
all-loads-fail can open it's own original (broken) file and use it.  Can
computer B teach computer A how to load charts correctly?

8.  This implication was tested using a much larger file (102 MB).
Result.  On the Ubuntu 18.04 and Fossa 20.04 computer with 7.0.1.2, none of the
24 charts update with data changes;   none at all.

9.  With that large file, one of all the paralysed charts was copied and pasted
on the same sheet side by side.   The twin autoupdates with cell value changes.
It's original remains "off".

Further testing.  At some stage I have to get back to Cancer or leave
LibreOffice.  What I will do is attempt to recreate the whole 102MB file.
Some users report that they "feel" reconstructing a file helps clean out
"something".  By opening a new sheet and building it up using "Insert Sheet
from File" they find the result is small than the original source.  It's a
laborious sheet by sheet procedure with new problems, including the insertion
causing External Links even though the Ext Links is deselected.  Yet it's
possible to get through with checking every single cell (or by search) and
editting out false linking.  I did this routine this year once with one file
and it seemed to help yet I couldn't finish the job;  large file saving caused
Calc 6.3.4 crash (linux disk cache going up gradually to 5.5G then Calc crash
at 5.6G every time).  Also copying one near empty sheet required 8 to 9
minutes.

With LO7.0.1.2 copying a sheet of only numbers is done in five seconds and
saving a large file works every time (so far since one month).  Great!  So I'll
stick with it, contribute some more and hope Xisco is being informed.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86321] EDITING, FORMATTING: diagram didn't automatic update when change variable (recalculation not triggered)

2020-09-20 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86321

--- Comment #47 from Lars Jødal  ---
Importance: I agree that trustworthy updating of plots is important, especially
if you work with many plots. A few years ago, I used LO for my Ph.D. project,
and it was huge problem to me that plots very often did not update - I did not
know which plots I could trust, and there were a lot of them, so a workaround
of moving all plot a few pixels each was very unattractive. (But yes, I kept
using LO, and I am still a user.)

Pinning it down: Like matthewnote writes, it is not an issue that is easy to
pin down. I have mostly experienced it with many plots, something many users
are not going to do.

Status of the bug? I just tested matthewnote's sample file, attachment 165696,
using LO 7.0.1.2 on Win10. Interestingly, the plot does seem to update
immediately (well, within a second), while I can confirm that the Y axis seem
to prefer to start from 0 when autoscaling. However, matthewnote includes
7.0.1.2 among the tested versions that still has the bug. Can others reproduce
the non-updata part of the bug with the 7.0.x line of LO? See description in
comment 46.

(If one day only the autoscaling problem is left, it is probably better to open
a new bug about that problem, which should be much more simple to describe.)

Version: 7.0.1.2 (x64)
Build ID: 7cbcfc562f6eb6708b5ff7d7397325de9e764452
CPU threads: 8; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 19041; UI render: Skia/Vulkan; VCL: win
Locale: da-DK (da_DK); UI: da-DK
Calc: threaded

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86321] EDITING, FORMATTING: diagram didn't automatic update when change variable (recalculation not triggered)

2020-09-20 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86321

--- Comment #46 from matthewn...@yahoo.co.uk ---
This Bug is still present in
LO Calc 6.3.4
LO Calc 6.3.5.2
(using OS Ubuntu 18.04 LTS)
LO Calc 7.0.1.2
(also on Ubuntu 18.04 LTS)
All safe modes tried.  LO reinstalls also.

For Joel.   This is proving very difficult to provide a "method" to create a
broken X,Y scatter diagram.  In four years I've not yet been able to cause it
deliberately step by step. So I contribute a sample file with broken graphics
(an early learning file not intended for presentation). 

General situation description.  Inserting an X,Y scatter chart, the plotting
updates for a few days work and follows new results in it's Data Range cells,
then abruptly stops updating.  Sometimes it's a graph done at the start,
sometimes it's only a copy, sometimes it's both, then half of all graphs stop
updating.  Sometimes reopening the file gives the user one more operation, you
can watch the result of a number change on the plot, yet only once. The
workload to continue using the file is huge.  

Here there are now three or four hundred files (Cancer data) based on about
five general structures and (as of January 2017 to September 2020),
regrettably, only one has all graphics following data input changes.

Calc 7.0.1.2. I was able to use a file more than twice. Testing Calc 7.0.1.2
with another near identical file (recently modified using 6.3.5.2) of the same
size too, that second file opens and none of the X,Y scatter plots update, none
at all.  Never seen that before either (all plots broken after File>Open). 
(Usually some plots keep updating occasionally then break and never repair.)

This is else than "minor";   the workload is crushing.  Reason. Unfortunately a
bug report moderator considers that autoscale on the Y axis doesn't need to
function correctly for X,Y scatter (although users are desperate to have it
function the same as autoscale X axis and write macros to try to do what the
moderator refuses).  When the data preparation for a graphic changes from y
values to LN(y) values (for example), you not only have half or more than half
the plots don't update at all  -  If you double click on any, the new
presentation will jump and show the Y values squashed at the top.   If you go
back to click a cell on the sheet (for example to change a 1.0 to a 1.1) all
the plots go off again to the old values.  Moving or rescaling all the plots to
cause one update to be shown once - well, I spent about two months of the
twelve in 2019 only doing that, sometimes collapsing with exhaustion. 

Why is autoscaling for technical users important?  The sample file has very
many plots.  The actual Cancer data work chooses to make only a few plotters to
minimise the processing load.  On it's sheet, that plotter fetches or reads the
data from columns.  Those columns are indirect adressing so that the user
selects the data sheet name for X axis and another data sheet name for Y axis. 
That way, there can be fourty simple sheets of numbers and only one X,Y plotter
is needed. 

Note: One screenshot or copy of one plot for a slide presentation using
histogram style autoscaling or forcing a manual Y axis scale may be the
intention of some Calc users or administration staff.  It's unusable for
investigation work.  

For Xisco Pauli.  Please assign this subject to someone "technical" rather than
"presentation". Personally I only ask Calc to use +, -, *, /, LN() and EXP()
then plot.  I can exhaust myself yet feel unable to share any of the four years
work.  I stay with LibreOffice with some sort of confidence that it will work
out.  (As a Raytheon real-time software testing engineer you learn to share Bug
information without worry and never ever put down the user point of view as
trivial or minor.  That attitude is absent, so, well, without effort to not do
it either) :).

Therefore I add a sample file.  Although it were best to prepare a smaller
file, I've tried trimming and deleting sheets with new problems every occasion. 

LO 7.0,1.2 purged, LO 6.3.5.2 default for Ubuntu 18.04 installed.
Opening sample "BMI BM BMH switch expt10.ods" displays sheet
"TheSWITCHexpanded".
X,Y scatter (reading columns P,M,D) is on the area C283 to P342.
Cell L259 multiplies x values for that scatter diagram (default value is 17).
Step one.  Click on L259, enter 25.
Result.  The graph below fails to update.
Expected result.  The plot moves red and violet points to the new x positions.
Step two. Clickandhold on the frame of the graph, dragging it one or two
pixels.  Release the mouse button.
Result.  The graph updates to the new data.
Step three.  Double click the plot itself and change Y axis scaling to
autoscale.
Result.  The y axis scale changes to 0 <-> 45 with all data squashed in the top
third.
Expected result.  y axis autoscale perform precisely the same as x.  This is
very important for technical use of any data.  x values same as y values should
always produce a linear trend 

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86321] EDITING, FORMATTING: diagram didn't automatic update when change variable (recalculation not triggered)

2020-09-20 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86321

--- Comment #45 from matthewn...@yahoo.co.uk ---
Created attachment 165696
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=165696=edit
Calc file with simple XY scatter plots that neither update nor rescale.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86321] EDITING, FORMATTING: diagram didn't automatic update when change variable (recalculation not triggered)

2019-10-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86321

--- Comment #44 from vlb  ---
The bug is in LO Versie: 6.3.2.2 (x64)still present.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86321] EDITING, FORMATTING: diagram didn't automatic update when change variable (recalculation not triggered)

2018-10-31 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86321

matthewn...@yahoo.co.uk changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||matthewn...@yahoo.co.uk

--- Comment #43 from matthewn...@yahoo.co.uk ---
Charts not updating (x, y scatter plots) is still present in Version: 6.0.6.2
Build ID: 1:6.0.6-0ubuntu0.18.04.1.  Usually, when a column is recalculated
there's a leap in processor use (CPU 100% for three seconds) as the graphic
engine presents the fresh image of charts concerned.  

When the chart appears to be "broken", the data column modifies, yet not the
charts and the CPU remains at idle.  For 100 x,y scatter plots here, after an
hour of data work, about half the charts are inert, not moving - and you don't
know which except by inspecting all of them. 

Clicking on one of the charts then dragging it a few pixels - only that chart
updates (comment 14) so it takes an hour's work for one digit change.  If the
user zooms by menu or Ctrl+mousewheel out then back in, the whole screen
including all charts visible update to the new values. It's a faster workaround
and may help learn what the bug is?  

For each data change it's necessary to zoomin/zoomout again.  Very surprised to
see this marked as importance  "minor".  Closing and reloading Calc in safe
mode brings all charts back to life (autoupdating) yet it's impractical to do
that thirty or fifty times a day.  I've tried every safe mode too.

I volunteer for user debug work using this system if it helps.

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