[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86336] FILEOPEN Calc ignores custom template when opening csv file

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86336

--- Comment #15 from Mike Kaganski  ---
(In reply to Ivan from comment #13)
> So, I'll go back to the original question: What would be the way to
> customize the default style then, such that it applies to all files open,
> including CSV files?

There will *never* be a way "that applies to all files open". Calc will always
use the formatting information from file when exists. It is not going to
change.

The *limited* customization of CSV look and feel would be possible, as per
comment 11.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86336] FILEOPEN Calc ignores custom template when opening csv file

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--- Comment #14 from Ivan  ---
In my prior comment: %s/openoffice/libreoffice/g

Sorry. Old habits die hard.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86336] FILEOPEN Calc ignores custom template when opening csv file

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--- Comment #13 from Ivan  ---
At present, it appears that template customization is the only way of setting
default styles in openoffice.

This is important e.g., to add more than font customizations. For example, I
need to increase padding by default. (That's how I ended up here; I don't need
to customize fonts.)

Saving a file as ODS (even if the CSV is linked) creates a problem. Libreoffice
does not adjust column and row sizes properly when padding is adjusted, and
that translates into columns and rows being too small. When an ODS file with a
CSV linked as a sheet is opened, the file is outdated until it is refreshed.
Column heights and widths are correct until the file is refreshed. So, either
way, you need to adjust visibility settings.

Methods that require opening libreoffice first are very inconvenient, because
if you are e.g., processing many files in the file manager, you need to open
libreoffice, find the file, and import it, as opposed to being able to just
double click on it.

So, I'll go back to the original question: What would be the way to customize
the default style then, such that it applies to all files open, including CSV
files?

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86336] FILEOPEN Calc ignores custom template when opening csv file

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--- Comment #12 from Ayanna Munoz  ---
I visit this page the first time and found it very informative and useful, the
way of providing details is very presentable. I usually browsing to avoid
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86336] FILEOPEN Calc ignores custom template when opening csv file

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Mike Kaganski  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Resolution|--- |NOTABUG
   See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13
   ||1274
 Status|NEW |RESOLVED

--- Comment #11 from Mike Kaganski  ---
Closing NOTABUG, just as tdf#131274 (see comment 10 here, and bug 131274
comment 3, for rationale). Ignoring custom template in this case is expected,
normal, and not a bug (and should not be ever changed).

If needed, CSV import should get more own settings, and they need to stick,
which is a different issue (tdf#74580 is partially about this).

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86336] FILEOPEN Calc ignores custom template when opening csv file

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--- Comment #10 from Mike Kaganski  ---
Using a custom template in this case is not correct.
Custom template is a complete document (with full set of options available to
Calc, including formatting, sheets number and *content*), that copy is used
when creating a new document. It is neither applicable to opening existing
documents (of any kind), nor appropriate because possible template content
(values pre-existing in cells, or more than a single sheet) and formatting
would not save back to the CSV - so opening a CSV with all that fancy
formatting would suggest users to customize the view, save, and expect it to be
kept.

If one wants to have some fixed layout for a CSV, one should consider adding
the CSV linked as a sheet into an ODS, being able then to apply any formatting
available.

The question about applicability of "Font Settings for HTML, Basic and SQL
Sources" mentioned in comment 3 is different from the one raised here; it might
be reasonable, but needs own proposal.

WONTFIX/INVALID IMO.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86336] FILEOPEN Calc ignores custom template when opening csv file

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--- Comment #9 from Uwe Auer  ---
Still present in

Version: 6.3.3.2
Build ID: a64200df03143b798afd1ec74a12ab50359878ed
CPU threads: 8; OS: Linux 4.12; UI render: default; VCL: kde5; 
Locale: en-US (en_US.UTF-8); UI-Language: en-US
Calc: threaded

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--- Comment #7 from FS  ---
Still present in Version: 6.0.5.2 (x64)
Build-ID: 54c8cbb85f300ac59db32fe8a675ff7683cd5a16

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bugs which have not been touched for over a year.

There have been thousands of bug fixes and commits since anyone checked on this
bug report. During that time, it's possible that the bug has been fixed, or the
details of the problem have changed. We'd really appreciate your help in
getting confirmation that the bug is still present.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86336] FILEOPEN Calc ignores custom template when opening csv file

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--- Comment #5 from Tux  ---
This is still the case in 5.4.0.1 40m0

Though this is no major bug, it really slows down my work. (re)generating CSV
files and checking them in LO (using the Reload functionality) will reset the
font to something non-sensible on every reload.

Could we al least have an option to NOT change the font settings on reload
please?

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86336] FILEOPEN Calc ignores custom template when opening csv file

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--- Comment #4 from Quazgar  ---
Relevant ask.lo.org questions, sometimes with workaround as proposed answer:
- https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/3256/
- https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/27342/
- https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/108336/

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Christian Lohmaier  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

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   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62
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--- Comment #3 from Aprax  ---
I can confirm that the Options > LibreOffice > Fonts doesn't respect the Font
Settings for HTML, Basic and SQL Sources.

Even though I've specified that Times New Roman should be used with Size = 8,
it consistenly uses Liberation Sans and the result is HUGE characters.

I've also tried using the Replacement Table to convert Liberation Sans to Times
New Roman but this doesn't work either.

In my case, I have an sql database from which I want to extract rows of data
from a specific table to a csv file (there's no option for an ods file). 
Each day a scheduled job performs the extaction and then clears the data from
the table, I open the csv and copy data for that day and 'Paste Special'
without formats into an odt file which uses Times New Roman 8 point.

The amount of data (columns & rows) is small so the HUGE font is not a big
problem, it's just irritating.
It would be much nicer if the csv file used the TNR 8 point format.

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--- Comment #2 from FS bz...@florian-schmitt.net ---
Created attachment 109614
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Example CSV file for testing

Sample CSV file added to ease testing.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86336] FILEOPEN Calc ignores custom template when opening csv file

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Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Priority|medium  |low
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
 CC||jmadero@gmail.com
Version|unspecified |4.3.2.2 release
 Ever confirmed|0   |1
   Severity|normal  |minor

--- Comment #1 from Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com ---
Ubuntu 14.10 x64
LibreOffice 4.3.2.2 release

Confirmed (NEW)
Minor - slows down professional quality work but does not prevent it.
Low - default for minor bugs.

(please don't change the severity/importance without knowing what they are used
for).

It would be good to upload a csv file so it's faster to test this.

Thanks for reporting! Indeed a little frustrating.

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