[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 88148] Image caption management forces to insert a category and numbering even if you do not need it

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88148

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |NOTABUG

--- Comment #5 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Andy from comment #0)
> The problem n. 1 is, i... the "OK" button is deactivated...

Works well at Version: 5.3.4.2

> Problem n.2 is as follows: ... the OK button is greyed out.

Works well at Version: 5.3.4.2

> Problem n.3 is that even if it would be possible to actually select 
> in the category list, there is no "none" item in the "numbering" list, so it
> appears that avoinding a numbering would be impossible all the same

In case of [none] you don't have continuous numbering as it works like an
ordinary text. 

The issue here is actually the wrong assignment of which button to be disable
for [none], which is Options... And that should work now. => NAB

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 88148] Image caption management forces to insert a category and numbering even if you do not need it

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Dave Barton  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

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--- Comment #3 from Dave Barton  ---
I am not sure if I should be commenting on this, or bug 58407 which debates
what the default category should be. My view is that the default category
should be made a user definable option (ie. an existing category, user defined
string, or none). At the very least there needs to be a user defined default
category, or an options to disable category additions to the caption.
Maybe this could even be extended into a fully user definable list of
categories, but that's a different RFE.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 88148] Image caption management forces to insert a category and numbering even if you do not need it

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--- Comment #2 from Piotr frank...@interia.pl ---
Confirmed all of the above on Win 8, 8.1, x64.
The most surprising is that it worked well in all OO/LO previours versions we
used in the company, that is OO 3.2, LO 4.2.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 88148] Image caption management forces to insert a category and numbering even if you do not need it

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Robinson Tryon (qubit) qu...@runcibility.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
 CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
   ||.freedesktop.org,
   ||qu...@runcibility.com
  Component|Writer  |ux-advise
   Hardware|x86 (IA32)  |All
 Ever confirmed|0   |1
 OS|Windows (All)   |All

--- Comment #1 from Robinson Tryon (qubit) qu...@runcibility.com ---
TESTING with LO 4.4.0.2 + Ubuntu 14.04

(In reply to Andy from comment #0)
 Here we go:
 
 Open a writer doc, insert any image. In the context menu, choose insert
 caption

It's just Caption for me in 4.4.0.2.

 The category list allows to add a repeating word automatically, like
 table etc.; there is also the item none which is needed when you want to
 create a caption with no repeating word or numbering.
 
 The problem n. 1 is, if you choose the latter option, the OK button is
 deactivated and you actually cannot insert the caption without a repeating
 starting word.

CONFIRMED
Status - NEW
Hardware - (generalize)

 
 Problem n.2 is as follows: in the dialog window, open the category list and
 choose none: the OK button is greyed out. Then reopen the list and choose
 any other category. After this, if you try to choose none again, this is
 impossible, and the category reverts to the last one right after you try and
 fail to select none with the mouse.

CONFIRMED as well

 
 Problem n.3 is that even if it would be possible to actually select none
 in the category list, there is no none item in the numbering list, so it
 appears that avoinding a numbering would be impossible all the same
 

CONFIRMED as well

 I know that the rule is one problem, one bug report, but here the issues
 are so closely related that filing 3 distinct reports seemed inappropriate.
 
 Workaround: you can leave the default category, insert the caption with the
 unwanted word at the beginning, and then manually delete the word and the
 numbering in each caption for each picture if you do not want them. This is
 of course a burdensome process. 
 Note that the categorized captions are commonplace in scientific
 publications, but they are almost never used in other kind of documents (in
 a magazine or newsletter for example, most of the times captions are not
 categorized nor numbered).

Yep -- sounds like a reasonable concern. Handing this the UX folks for their
input on what types of captioning should be available.
Component - ux-advise

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