[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 89210] wrong name tooltip Effects on toolbar Line and Filling

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--- Comment #13 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Patch submitted with https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/45337/

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--- Comment #12 from kompilainenn <79045_79...@mail.ru> ---
still repro in 6.0 beta1

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--- Comment #11 from kompilainenn <79045_79...@mail.ru> ---
Yousuf, may be we will to return by this problem?

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--- Comment #9 from Adolfo Jayme f...@libreoffice.org ---
(In reply to Jay Philips from comment #8)
 Rotate, Flip, Transparency and Gradient dont seem to fit well under
 'Transformation'. Maybe something with the word 'Alter' might be more
 suitable like possibly 'Alterations'.

You’re establishing an artificial limit on what that word could mean—I meant it
as an umbrella term, and I don’t see why rotating or flipping an object isn’t
transfiguring it.

And no, sorry, but “Alterations” just sounds horrible.

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--- Comment #1 from Julien Nabet serval2...@yahoo.fr ---
On pc Debian x86-64 with master sources updated today, I could reproduce this.

However if both should be named the same way, should it be Mode or Effects?

code pointer:
opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office/UI/DrawImpressCommands.xcu#947

ux-team/Jay: any thoughts?

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--- Comment #2 from Adolfo Jayme f...@libreoffice.org ---
“Mode” is a totally non-descriptive name which does not reflect with accuracy
the contents of that drop-down. “Effects” may not be the best name, but it’s
much better than “Mode”.

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--- Comment #4 from Adolfo Jayme f...@libreoffice.org ---
(In reply to kompilainenn from comment #3)
 into Russian name panel translated as Operation. That is, will the operation
 of rotation or reflection operation. Operation in this case - it's a process.

Thanks, you gave me an idea. Why not name both the toolbar and the tooltip
“Transformations”? I think it’s accurate and descriptive.

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--- Comment #8 from Jay Philips philip...@hotmail.com ---
Rotate, Flip, Transparency and Gradient dont seem to fit well under
'Transformation'. Maybe something with the word 'Alter' might be more suitable
like possibly 'Alterations'.

(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #6)
 Yes, Transformations might be the better label and title--but shouldn't
 the .uno command be renamed as well? 

No there isnt any need to rename uno commands that were wrongly named as users
never see it anyway. :D

Whatever the name is changed to, it would be useful to have the default button
emphasize that name.

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--- Comment #6 from V Stuart Foote vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu ---
(In reply to Adolfo Jayme from comment #4)
 Thanks, you gave me an idea. Why not name both the toolbar and the tooltip
 “Transformations”? I think it’s accurate and descriptive.

Yes, Transformations might be the better label and title--but shouldn't the
.uno command be renamed as well? 

I'd only suggested Advanced Modes to match the responsible .uno command.

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--- Comment #7 from kompilainenn 79045_79...@mail.ru ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #6)
 (In reply to Adolfo Jayme from comment #4)
  Thanks, you gave me an idea. Why not name both the toolbar and the tooltip
  “Transformations”? I think it’s accurate and descriptive.
 
 Yes, Transformations might be the better label and title--but shouldn't
 the .uno command be renamed as well? 
 
 I'd only suggested Advanced Modes to match the responsible .uno command.

Rotate is not transformation. This change in position of an object in space.

But all the other instruments - this transformation, I agree...

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--- Comment #3 from kompilainenn 79045_79...@mail.ru ---
into Russian name panel translated as Operation. That is, will the operation of
rotation or reflection operation. Operation in this case - it's a process.
Effect - it is still not a process.
Mode - this is also wrong name, but if you need to do minimal revisions, it is
best to replace the effect on the mode.

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--- Comment #5 from V Stuart Foote vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu ---
Command is .uno:AdvancedMode but unfortunately was labeled Effects when
implemented. 

Its default mode displayed and active is the rotate button for action
.uno:ToggleObjectRotateMode

The split menu drop down opens the Mode (choosemodebar.xml) toolbar.

Likely the Effects label should have been originally set as Advanced
Mode--representing advanced graphical modes for manipulating the object
selected.

IMHO both the dialog title as well as the button label should be changed to
Advanced Modes 

Not sure how significant an impact on the l10n/i18n efforts.

=-ref-=
http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/sd/uiconfig/sdraw/toolbar/choosemodebar.xml

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