[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 92902] Enhancement Request: Auto-Layout for flowcharts and automatic flowcharts from Calc / Excel
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92902 Heiko Tietze changed: What|Removed |Added Blocks|106547 | Referenced Bugs: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106547 [Bug 106547] [META] OOXML SmartArt bug tracker -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 92902] Enhancement Request: Auto-Layout for flowcharts and automatic flowcharts from Calc / Excel
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92902 Heiko Tietze changed: What|Removed |Added Blocks|99669 | Referenced Bugs: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=99669 [Bug 99669] [META] Introduce auto generation of block diagram -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 92902] Enhancement Request: Auto-Layout for flowcharts and automatic flowcharts from Calc / Excel
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92902 Xisco Faulí changed: What|Removed |Added CC||xiscofa...@libreoffice.org Blocks||106547 Referenced Bugs: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106547 [Bug 106547] [META] SmartArt bug tracker -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 92902] Enhancement Request: Auto-Layout for flowcharts and automatic flowcharts from Calc / Excel
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92902 Heiko Tietze changed: What|Removed |Added See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=72 ||771 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 92902] Enhancement Request: Auto-Layout for flowcharts and automatic flowcharts from Calc / Excel
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92902 Heiko Tietze changed: What|Removed |Added Status|RESOLVED|NEW Resolution|DUPLICATE |--- --- Comment #12 from Heiko Tietze --- Reopening. SmartArt is similar but not the same as suggested here. It is linked at see also, and I think it makes sense to keep both until we have a good proposal that not just covers what Visio (or someone else) does. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 92902] Enhancement Request: Auto-Layout for flowcharts and automatic flowcharts from Calc / Excel
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92902 Tomaz Vajngerl changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE --- Comment #11 from Tomaz Vajngerl --- *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 37932 *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 92902] Enhancement Request: Auto-Layout for flowcharts and automatic flowcharts from Calc / Excel
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92902 Heiko Tietze changed: What|Removed |Added Blocks|99563 | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 92902] Enhancement Request: Auto-Layout for flowcharts and automatic flowcharts from Calc / Excel
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92902 Heiko Tietze changed: What|Removed |Added Blocks||99669 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 92902] Enhancement Request: Auto-Layout for flowcharts and automatic flowcharts from Calc / Excel
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92902 --- Comment #10 from mrmister001 --- Cool. Hire me as documentation specialicist !!! ;-) Of course you can use this way to create mind maps and everything you want. I work with theoretical physics many times, so I need to connect theories to visualize maps. Visualizing information is absolutely necessary for every flow chart, it has applications in many areas, programming, organizational tasks, office, management, academical, etc. I don't know if have you used Gephi? for Data Visualization. I developed the idea of the Automation window because it is easy to create everything you want... and connect it. You type, you connect, you type, you connect, as easy as that. HOWEVER, this idea need a SAVE BUTTON... to save the introduced data... or you can avoid the save button and the introduced data then is recorded automatically inside the Draw file. Also, it would be cool if we add to the automation Window several presets for an autoalign in the same style as yED. You can vary the way the flowchart looks, just by selecting other approach to the organization. In yED you have layout and then a lot of presets, hierarchical... organic... orthogonal... circular... tree. That is pretty cool. We should have also templates to organize the way the charts looks in the automation window. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 92902] Enhancement Request: Auto-Layout for flowcharts and automatic flowcharts from Calc / Excel
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92902 --- Comment #8 from Heiko Tietze --- (In reply to mrmister001 from comment #5) > Here is the video: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOBjTe-N_-I You should get hired as documentation specialist ;-). On the first glance: Pretty nice way to enter the data quickly. It makes me wonder if that workflow couldn't be also used as well for mindmaps and tag clouds, somehow. The visual configuration with the shape type or distance should not be part of the auto creation, IMHO. (In reply to mrmister001 from comment #7) > I would love to collaborate with the design team if they allow me to. :D Of course you are welcome (as everyone else). http://www.libreoffice.org/community/design/ Regarding this ticket we could run a session and finalize the workflow. It should cover the automatic generation for block diagrams in general. But then we get to the bottleneck of developers - it's not an easyhack, I guess. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 92902] Enhancement Request: Auto-Layout for flowcharts and automatic flowcharts from Calc / Excel
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92902 --- Comment #9 from Heiko Tietze --- (In reply to mrmister001 from comment #5) > Here is the video: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOBjTe-N_-I You should get hired as documentation specialist ;-). On the first glance: Pretty nice way to enter the data quickly. It makes me wonder if that workflow couldn't be also used as well for mindmaps and tag clouds, somehow. The visual configuration with the shape type or distance should not be part of the auto creation, IMHO. (In reply to mrmister001 from comment #7) > I would love to collaborate with the design team if they allow me to. :D Of course you are welcome (as everyone else). http://www.libreoffice.org/community/design/ Regarding this ticket we could run a session and finalize the workflow. It should cover the automatic generation for block diagrams in general. But then we get to the bottleneck of developers - it's not an easyhack, I guess. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 92902] Enhancement Request: Auto-Layout for flowcharts and automatic flowcharts from Calc / Excel
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92902 --- Comment #7 from mrmister001 --- Thanks a lot Bastian, I suggested the idea in 2013 and did the video... so if you consider I could help during the design process, please let me know. I would love to collaborate with the design team if they allow me to. :D -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 92902] Enhancement Request: Auto-Layout for flowcharts and automatic flowcharts from Calc / Excel
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92902 --- Comment #6 from Bastián Díaz --- (In reply to mrmister001 from comment #5) > Hi Heiko, > In 2013 I did a video demonstration, and posted it in Youtube. The video is > hidden, so only people knowing the link can access it. > > Here is the video: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOBjTe-N_-I Wow... I knew what the survey to improve Draw, I was looking for this video because the idea is good. It provides an automated system to create different types of diagrams easily (as does SmartDraw) Thank you for showing again. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 92902] Enhancement Request: Auto-Layout for flowcharts and automatic flowcharts from Calc / Excel
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92902 --- Comment #5 from mrmister001 --- Hi Heiko, In 2013 I did a video demonstration, and posted it in Youtube. The video is hidden, so only people knowing the link can access it. Here is the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOBjTe-N_-I Please, share the video with the design team. In the video I suggest an integrative solution, with a window called "Automation". The window basically do what you describe, it handles lists, which are considered tags... and it connect tags. Also it is able to apply a different formating to the automation process. This demonstration is even years ahead of yED. It is quite better, because give you so much control of the diagram, making true automation in seconds. I guess you are very busy, but please, I would love if you could grab 10 minutes, just to see the half of it, in which the feature is described. It shows an approach very similar to the one you have in mind, I think. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 92902] Enhancement Request: Auto-Layout for flowcharts and automatic flowcharts from Calc / Excel
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92902 --- Comment #4 from Heiko Tietze --- No worries, the design team hasn't started to think about the realization. Right now I just collect existing tickets, and create new if necessary, to cover what people request from Draw. And auto layout is on the wish list. yEd is well known (I used it myself a couple of times). But keep in mind that others may have a different approach to the task. What we need is an "integrative solution". How about something like a function "Organize" that restructures your flat list into the SmartArt tree? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 92902] Enhancement Request: Auto-Layout for flowcharts and automatic flowcharts from Calc / Excel
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92902 --- Comment #3 from mrmister001 --- Hi Heiko, Thanks for your reply. However I don't know if you understood the feature very well. You cannot compare this with templates or Smart Art, because it is not. To understand how an auntomatic flowchart works you must think in two columns, from a spreadsheet. Think in column A and column B. The idea behind this is that you draw boxes according the data provided in the column A And you link this data with the results provided in the column B If some data from column A (Source) is repeated... and match new data from column B (Tarfet), then we draw multiple boxes For example, let's imagine in column A (Source) we have a list of names, and in the column B (Target) we have a list of departments. Source Target John Sales Mike R+D Peter Sales Dana Accounting RichardSales John Customer Service Peter Customer Service What will happen is due John is related to the Sales and also to the Customer Service, Draw will create two boxes, one indicating Sales and the other Customer Service, and both boxes will be connected to John, which will be represented also in a box. Mike for example, will be inside a box and will be connected with R+D which will be also inside a box. Mike won't have more connections because is not connected more new data. Peter will experience the same behavior as John, because he works in Sales and also in the Customer Service, so we will see how draw create a Box for Peter, and connect this box with two new boxes, one indicating Sales and the other Customer Service. Peter will be connected to these new boxes, thru lines. That is the sense behind automatic flowcharting. THERE IS A VERY IMPORTANT PROGRAM THAT ALREADY DO THIS: YED (FROM YWORKS). It is made in Jave, and free to download. I really encourage everyone to understand how YED works and apply the same philoshopy to Draw. I remind also that Visio don't have this feature, so basically if this is implemented inside Draw, it would make Visio bleed deeply. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 92902] Enhancement Request: Auto-Layout for flowcharts and automatic flowcharts from Calc / Excel
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92902 Heiko Tietze changed: What|Removed |Added See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37 ||932 --- Comment #2 from Heiko Tietze --- See also https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Crazy_Ideas#Intelligent_groups_.28alias_SmartArt.29 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 92902] Enhancement Request: Auto-Layout for flowcharts and automatic flowcharts from Calc / Excel
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92902 Heiko Tietze changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords||needsUXEval Priority|high|medium Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW Blocks||99563 Ever confirmed|0 |1 --- Comment #1 from Heiko Tietze --- This feature was requested a couple of times in the Draw survey [1]. As a solution it was also suggested to adopt Microsoft's SmartArt [2] (see comments). The feature could be added to the sidebar, perhaps based on some generic layout that needs to be finished although [3]. Status: New, Importance: Medium (other features are more pressing) [1] https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/2016/04/01/the-many-faced-god-part-2-how-libreoffice-draw-is-expected-to-evolve/ [2] https://youtu.be/Y86bhcinaJA [3] http://user-prompt.com/de/libreoffice-design-session-shapes/ -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 92902] Enhancement Request: Auto-Layout for flowcharts and automatic flowcharts from Calc / Excel
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92902 mrmister001 changed: What|Removed |Added Priority|medium |high -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs