[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 93357] Thumbnail of ODP or PPTX presentation is updated to the last slide/page viewed

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--- Comment #20 from Pedro  ---
Present in Collabora Office version

Version: 22.05.12.20230324
Build ID: 416b47096203b13365953eff93eb800860f7a4cf
CPU threads: 8; OS: Linux 5.15; UI render: default; VCL: gtk3
Locale: pt-PT (pt_PT.UTF-8); UI: en-US
Calc: CL

So I assume it is still present in current versions of LibreOffice

I no longer use LibreOffice as my Office suite.

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--- Comment #18 from Pedro  ---
Still present in version

Version: 6.4.7.2 (x86)
Build ID: 639b8ac485750d5696d7590a72ef1b496725cfb5
CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 6.1 Service Pack 1 Build 7601; UI render: default;
VCL: win; 
Locale: pt-PT (pt_PT); UI-Language: en-US
Calc: threaded

As mentioned in the last mass ping (in 2019), I no longer use LibreOffice as my
Office suite.

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--- Comment #16 from Pedro  ---
Regression still occurs with version 6.1.5.2

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--- Comment #14 from Pedro  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #13)
> Agreement on the change, so go for it (comment 8 for the proposed solution). 

What do you mean "go for it"? I'm not a developer :)
This was simply a request for an enhancement. If no developer finds this
interesting then it can be closed.
I'm no longer using LibreOffice but I still think this makes sense.

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Buovjaga  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Blocks||61914


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61914
[Bug 61914] [META] Start Center -- implementation UI and UX
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Heiko Tietze  changed:

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   Keywords|needsUXEval |
 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |tietze.he...@gmail.com
   |.freedesktop.org|
   Severity|minor   |normal

--- Comment #13 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Agreement on the change, so go for it (comment 8 for the proposed solution). 

(Would have taken Maxim's argument myself)
QA: Missing the assignment to a META ticket ;-)

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--- Comment #12 from Pedro  ---
(In reply to Yousuf Philips (jay) from comment #11)
> This same issue hit me today and i believe it should always thumbnail the
> first slide of the presentation, whether or not it opens to the first slide
> or the last edited slide. This would also make the behaviour consistent
> across apps.

+1

> Writer has a feature to jump to the last edited point in the document,
> though it seems i cant find where to enable it :D, but i still believe it
> thumbnails the first page even when this feature is enabled.

It does.
You don't need to enable it
https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/1144/how-to-save-cursor-position-in-writer/

> I would believe the same behaviour should go for Draw.

For consistency sake it should always show the first page for all document
types

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 CC||philip...@hotmail.com,
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--- Comment #11 from Yousuf Philips (jay)  ---
This same issue hit me today and i believe it should always thumbnail the first
slide of the presentation, whether or not it opens to the first slide or the
last edited slide. This would also make the behaviour consistent across apps.

Writer has a feature to jump to the last edited point in the document, though
it seems i cant find where to enable it :D, but i still believe it thumbnails
the first page even when this feature is enabled.

I would believe the same behaviour should go for Draw.

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--- Comment #10 from V Stuart Foote  ---
This issue with the last slide/page viewed used as thumbnail view saved to
profile applies to both Impress and Draw.

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--- Comment #9 from Pedro  ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #8)

> Think one way to resolve this would be an option to always open to the first
> slide/page (for Draw) and cache that image--so that optionally on closing
> the image of the first slide/page (for Draw) could be written to user
> profile and shown on thumbnail view.

That would be perfect. 
Unless a new option to resume on the last slide viewed is added (that would be
an interesting new feature but should be optional) then it doesn't make sense
to show the thumbnail of the last viewed slide.

> Otherwise this is not a regression--it did not exist until we added
> thumbnail views to startcenter at 4.2--and later provided thumbnails for
> non-ODF formats at 4.3. 

Agreed for non-ODF formats. It is an enhancement request for those. But for ODP
(and ODG from your comments) is was a regression since in branch 4.2 the
thumbnail was the first slide (as expected) and in 4.3 the thumbnail changed to
the last viewed slide.

> Note that a preview thumbnail is not recorded into the ODF document(s)until
> they are saved--but the thumbnail of last viewed slide/page for ODF or other
> documents are written to the user profile when the document is closed.
> Caching the 1st page (or opening page) could be an option--just for writing
> to the user profile copy of the thumbnail view.

Yes, that is the ideal solution.
I still don't see the point of having a thumbnail of the last page viewed if
the document does not open on that page (for long ODT text documents where that
might be useful, the thumbnail IS the first page...)
There seems to be some inconsistency in the thumbnail creation logic.

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V Stuart Foote  changed:

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   Keywords|bisected, regression|
 CC||vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu

--- Comment #8 from V Stuart Foote  ---
This user profile thumbnail set to last page viewed before closing or saving
affects both--Impress and Draw. Writer and Calc are not affected.

Think one way to resolve this would be an option to always open to the first
slide/page (for Draw) and cache that image--so that optionally on closing the
image of the first slide/page (for Draw) could be written to user profile and
shown on thumbnail view.

Otherwise this is not a regression--it did not exist until we added thumbnail
views to startcenter at 4.2--and later provided thumbnails for non-ODF formats
at 4.3. 

Note that a preview thumbnail is not recorded into the ODF document(s)until
they are saved--but the thumbnail of last viewed slide/page for ODF or other
documents are written to the user profile when the document is closed. Caching
the 1st page (or opening page) could be an option--just for writing to the user
profile copy of the thumbnail view.

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Heiko Tietze  changed:

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--- Comment #7 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Just adding the UX mailing list.

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Xisco Faulí  changed:

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   Keywords||bisected, needsUXEval

--- Comment #6 from Xisco Faulí  ---
then, I'll add 'bisected' as the commit is identified.
Probably it's good if UX team takes a look at it and decides what to do with
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Maxim Monastirsky  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords|bibisectRequest |

--- Comment #5 from Maxim Monastirsky  ---
(In reply to Xisco Faulí from comment #4)
> Adding keyword 'bibisectRequest'.
No need to bibisect. The problem is precisely described in comment 3, i.e. the
change in 4.3 caused by generating thumbnail on file close to store in user's
profile, which was made in Bug 72469.

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Adding keyword 'bibisectRequest'.

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Maxim Monastirsky  changed:

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 Whiteboard|bibisectRequest |

--- Comment #3 from Maxim Monastirsky  ---
(In reply to Pedro from comment #0)
> This is a regression from branch 4.2 where closing the presentation at any
> point will not change the thumbnail.
That's not exactly a regression, because even in 4.2 if you save the
presentation, the thumbnail will be updated with the currently visible slide
(and that's the behavior all the way back to, at least, OOo 2.0). It's now just
a bit more visible, because since 4.3 we store the thumbnail also in the user
profile (to support formats other than ODF), and this thumbnail is updated at
file close, if the presentation wasn't modified.

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Beluga  changed:

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 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
 CC||todven...@suomi24.fi
 Ever confirmed|0   |1
 Whiteboard||bibisectRequest
   Severity|normal  |minor

--- Comment #2 from Beluga  ---
Confirmed.

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Pedro pedl...@gmail.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords||regression
Version|5.0.1.1 rc  |4.3.6.2 release

--- Comment #1 from Pedro pedl...@gmail.com ---
In branch 4.2 there were no thumbnails for PPTX so the bug is only a Regression
for ODP files

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