[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 93973] Inconsistent treatment of array formulas if imported, inserted or entered as text using the curly brackets

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--- Comment #22 from Eike Rathke  ---
Array formulas can't be created by text import that way. Period. Not a bug.
Won't fix.

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Summary|Inconsistent treatment of   |Inconsistent treatment of
   |array formulas if imported, |array formulas if imported,
   |inserted or entered as text |inserted or entered as text
   |using the curly brackets.   |using the curly brackets


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109236
[Bug 109236] [META] CSV import bugs and enhancements
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--- Comment #20 from Wolfgang Jäger  ---
Created attachment 155322
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Example with directly entered text looking like array formula

I don't know if the original reporter (rstill74) continues to observe this bug,
but:

I tested with V 6.3.3.1rc and the described behaviour was unchanged. 

Hoping to get things even more clear I attach a very simple example .ods made
with the mentioned version where the text contents looking like a array
formulae were directly entered using the keyboard. The effects are the same as
with content read from a csv file.

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--- Comment #18 from Wolfgang Jäger  ---
Tested with V 6.3.3.1rc
Behavioiur unchanged.

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--- Comment #16 from Wolfgang Jäger  ---
Tested again with V6.1.3.1RC. 

Behaviour unchanged. (Please also read the final paragraph thoroughly.)

I already included a suggestion with my demonstrations to solve the issue by
creating an alternative way to enter a formula for array-evaluation. See file
bug_tdf93973InconsistencyConfirm_1ReloadedFromCSV.ods contained in the .zip
attached to Comment #10. 

This second way was to simply enclose the formula in curly brackets as it is
displayed anyway after being recognised. 

Concerning the present case of importing formulae from a csv this might be
accomplished by finding the output range for the top-left occurrence of the
formula with a query for the range of its adjacent repetitions. 

I'm inerested in your comments on the question if filing that suggestion as a
feature request (enhancement "bug") might be the better way to get the old
issue resolved.

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--- Comment #14 from Wolfgang Jäger  ---
Tested again with V5.4.2. on Win 10:

Behaviour still as described in the original report. 

Emphasizing the inconsistencies: 

-1a- Non-array formulas are recognized as formulas on import. 
-1b- Array formulas are not. They are dysfunctional and shown as texts.
-1c- 'Numbers' format of the respective cells remains 'General'.

-2a- Going edit mode (F2, not the wizard) the mode is "formula-editing":
Emphasizing references, no curly brackets.
-2b- Escaping the edit: Formula is text again - with curley brackets. Still
'General' numbers format.
-2c- The wizard doesn't regognize a formula at all.

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--- Comment #13 from Wolfgang Jäger  ---
The link to late en.libreofficeforum . org in the original post is broken due
to the shutdown of that forum (sigh). 

There is a (not searcheble) archive where you still find the thread under
discussion: http://www.imaccanici.org/en.libreofficeforum.org/node/11459

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 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
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Thanks, Wolfgang. Let's set to NEW.

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--- Comment #10 from Wolfgang Jäger  ---
(In reply to Xisco Faulí from comment #8)
> Dear Bug Submitter,
> 
> This bug has been in NEEDINFO status with no change for at least
> 6 months. ...

I am not the original reporter here. Nonetheless I think I understood the
problem and can confirm it. 

A new description might get wordy and not much more clear than it was already
tried. Thus I made a demo consisting of 4 files (of which only 3 are relavant.

One is an simple ods containing ordinary formulae and an array formula as well.
It was saved while the option 'Display' > 'Formulae' was switched on. 

>From this comes the second file to whitch the relevant sheet of the first one
was written using 'Save As...'. 

Now a new (untitled) ods document was created and the mentioned csv was used to
insert a sheet there. Later it was save to
"bug_tdf93973InconsistencyConfirm_1ReloadedFromCSV.ods"

The mentioned files are packed into the attached zip archive. 
Start opening the last mentioned one and read the few lines of text there. You
may open the other files then as needed.

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--- Comment #9 from Wolfgang Jäger  ---
Created attachment 127920
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The archive mentioned in my Comment#8; Demonstration of the claims

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This bug has been in NEEDINFO status with no change for at least
6 months. Please provide the requested information as soon as
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 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEEDINFO
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--- Comment #7 from Buovjaga  ---
rstill: regarding comment 6: I am setting to NEEDINFO.
Change back to UNCONFIRMED, if you are not happy with the solution. Change to
RESOLVED WORKSFORME, if you are happy.

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--- Comment #6 from m.a.riosv  ---
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Sample CSV with SUMPRODUCT() instead brackets.

I think not always but in many situations you can involve the formula with the
SUMPRODCUT() function, it is an array function so you don't need the brackets.

And open the csv with it works fine for me.

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Summary|problems importing csv file |Inconsistent treatment of
   |containing array formula|array formulas if imported,
   ||inserted or entered as text
   ||using the curly brackets.

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title changed as suggested

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--- Comment #5 from rstil...@gmail.com ---
to Jean-Baptiste Faure:
I wanted to apologize if my response to your message came across as offensive.
It was not intended that way. It was merely surprise. 
I admit that I am forcing the venerable .csv format to do things it wasn't
really meant to do, but it seems to me that many other parts of LibreOffice and
it's documentation implicitly acknowledge that it's not that rare.

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