[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96336] Format > Page dialog and selection doubtably different for Writer/Calc/Draw

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96336

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |tietze.he...@gmail.com
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 Resolution|--- |NOTABUG

--- Comment #10 from Heiko Tietze  ---
The new area fill dialog has been introduced. Missing pieces are handled in bug
105225. Closing this ticket as NAB.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96336] Format > Page dialog and selection doubtably different for Writer/Calc/Draw

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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96336

Yousuf Philips (jay)  changed:

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Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103304
[Bug 103304] [META] Page dialog bugs and enhancements
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96336] Format > Page dialog and selection doubtably different for Writer/Calc/Draw

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Yousuf Philips (jay)  changed:

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 Blocks||102019

--- Comment #9 from Yousuf Philips (jay)  ---
All dialogs should use the new all-in-one area fill tab (bug 94551) when
applicable. Calc's format > page > background tab seems to be just like
Writer's table > properties > background tab.


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https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102019
[Bug 102019] [META] Dialog bugs and enhancements
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96336] Format > Page dialog and selection doubtably different for Writer/Calc/Draw

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V Stuart Foote  changed:

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  Component|Writer  |LibreOffice

--- Comment #8 from V Stuart Foote  ---
The UI issue here affects all modules back to LibreOffice

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96336] Format > Page dialog and selection doubtably different for Writer/Calc/Draw

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  Component|LibreOffice |Writer

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96336] Format > Page dialog and selection doubtably different for Writer/Calc/Draw

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Beluga  changed:

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Version|5.1.0.0.beta1   |5.0.3.2 release

--- Comment #3 from Beluga  ---
Requesting ux advice.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96336] Format > Page dialog and selection doubtably different for Writer/Calc/Draw

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--- Comment #5 from Beluga  ---
Just a small note: I took Wolfgang's remark to mean that not only raster
formats can be imported, but vector formats like SVG, too.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96336] Format > Page dialog and selection doubtably different for Writer/Calc/Draw

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--- Comment #4 from Heiko Tietze  ---
The area fill style is being discussed in the design team. Actually the blog
post with our suggestion is in preparation. So stay tuned.

About the wording: picture, bitmap, image, graphic - that's all the same to me.
Bitmap as Windows Bitmap bmp is not the same as bitmap. Wikipedia reads
similar: 

"Bitmap is a type of memory organization or image file format used to store
digital images.

Bitmap or bit map may also mean the following:

Bitmap graphics, also known as raster graphics, an image represented by a
generally rectangular grid of pixels (co-sitting points of colors)"

Nonetheless we should take care about consistent wording. My (non-native)
suggestion (inspired by Lazarus/Freepascal):

"graphic": the abstract allocation of pixels in two dimensions
"picture": container for graphics with any pixel format (to avoid confusion the
bitmap goes here as an instance of a picture; alternatively a jpeg, png, etc.
"Load picture" would be correct then.)
"image": visual representation on the screen ("Image properties" would be
correct for tweaking the size rather than picture/bitmap/graphic etc.)

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96336] Format > Page dialog and selection doubtably different for Writer/Calc/Draw

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V Stuart Foote  changed:

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--- Comment #6 from V Stuart Foote  ---
Yes, all of OPs observations are correct. There is inconsistency across the
components in how the page background fill tool for bitmaps are structured.

--Tab labels--
   Area (Writer) vs. Background (Calc, Draw, Impress)

--Dialog names--
   Page Style (Writer, Calc) vs. Page Setup (Draw, Impress --w/ no Import) 

--Button lables--
   Import graphic...(Writer)  vs. Browse (Calc) 
   **Draw and Impress are missing an import option button - that seems
incorrect

Possible that the dialogs really are different (Page Style vs. Page Setup), but
believe they are all controlling the same page background fill attribute(s) of
the internal and ODF document. So, IMHO the crux here is simple inconsistency
of labeling in the UI.

I also believe the handling in Writer's Format -> Page dialog: Area tab is
incorrect label it should also be "Background" (for the page), but otherwise is
the most complete and should be the model to bring the other dialogs and tabs
consistent.


Regards nomenclature:

"Vector" based drawings, and "Raster" bitmaps are all "graphics", internally
they are all processed into bitmap metafiles for rendering onto the drawing
canvas. So we do not need to be too concerned with notation--so long as it is
consistent.   And so long as when saved to ODF or export to external
format--the correct conversions are applied--mainly to preserve/control
resolution where appropriate.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96336] Format > Page dialog and selection doubtably different for Writer/Calc/Draw

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--- Comment #1 from Wolfgang Jäger  ---
Missed to mention that the alternative to 'Import Graphic...' in Writer was
'File', 'Browse' in Draw and in Calc.

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--- Comment #2 from Wolfgang Jäger  ---
Erratum: Last word before start of the last paragraph in the 'Description'
should read 'Browse' instead of 'Graphic'.

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