[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 99435] Most tool bar buttons are useless

2016-04-21 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=99435

V Stuart Foote  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE

--- Comment #6 from V Stuart Foote  ---
OK then, duping it off to bug 92218

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 92218 ***

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 99435] Most tool bar buttons are useless

2016-04-21 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=99435

Cor Nouws  changed:

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 CC||c...@nouenoff.nl

--- Comment #5 from Cor Nouws  ---
(In reply to Yousuf (Jay) Philips from comment #4)
> seems similar to the single toolbar concept i'm working on in bug 92218.

May be. But does it make sense to keep this issue alive? Better direct input to
the place where it is used..

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 99435] Most tool bar buttons are useless

2016-04-21 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=99435

Yousuf (Jay) Philips  changed:

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 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
 CC||philip...@hotmail.com
  Component|ux-advise   |UI
 Ever confirmed|0   |1

--- Comment #4 from Yousuf (Jay) Philips  ---
seems similar to the single toolbar concept i'm working on in bug 92218.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 99435] Most tool bar buttons are useless

2016-04-21 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=99435

--- Comment #3 from Alberto Salvia Novella  ---
Sure all these features have some functionality to someone. But the idea here
is to keep at view features that are only used right in that moment, or use
constantly by most people. Then allow users to freely change things if they
have uncommon needs.

Also note that any improvement takes a side apart from what is common till that
moment, and that inherently means taking the risk of disappointing someone. So
I would pursue satisfying 90% of people, instead of 99%.

(https://gettingreal.37signals.com/ch04_Make_Opinionated_Software.php)

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 99435] Most tool bar buttons are useless

2016-04-21 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=99435

V Stuart Foote  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords||needsUXEval
Version|unspecified |5.0.2.2 release

--- Comment #2 from V Stuart Foote  ---
As it is against Ubuntu "Wily Werewolf" setting version to 5.0.2.2

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 99435] Most tool bar buttons are useless

2016-04-21 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=99435

V Stuart Foote  changed:

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 CC||vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu

--- Comment #1 from V Stuart Foote  ---
Hi Alberto, thanks for posting.

But, would observe that if they were useless--button widgets (and other toolbar
GUI controls)--they would not exist to link to the .uno commands they control.

Would say this is back to our ongoing Benjamin vs. Eve discussion. What minimum
set of features should be presented in a default UI to provide a well
functioning and intuitive UI but at the same time not annoy experienced users
by requiring excessive UI customization beyond defaults.

And of course this is compounded by our hybrid mix of static and dynamic or
modal toolbars that assert depending on the object with focus--or task being
performed.

So, hope you see that handling Toolbar default configurations are not as simple
as you have put forward.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 99435] Most tool bar buttons are useless

2016-04-21 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=99435

Alberto Salvia Novella  changed:

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URL||https://bugs.launchpad.net/
   ||ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/
   ||+bug/1573031
 CC||es204904...@gmail.com
   Severity|normal  |enhancement

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