[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 99457] One-handed ways to move rows and columns

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--- Comment #20 from dumb...@gmail.com ---
Does the solution (2) address also the web interface (LibreOffice Online)
requirements (i.e. is it compatible)?

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 99457] One-handed ways to move rows and columns

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 99457] One-handed ways to move rows and columns

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--- Comment #19 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Design team discussed the topic:

+ Option 1: NAB/WFM because rarely used and dangerous action
+ Option 2: one-hand mode activated by a shortcut, e.g. ctr+foo, 
which makes cursor moving rows/cols
   + vi'ish solution
 Option 3: ordinary shortcuts, but not simply ctrl+cursor rather 
   ctrl+alt+cursor
  + ctrl+alt+cursor is used in Gnome shell for workspace

=> no good solution; but option 2 sounds easier to implement and most flexible

 + after switchting into movement mode we can act on row/col independently 
   from selection (left/right select the col, top/down the row) 
   making both possible at once
 + alternatively the movement could be done based on the selection
 + as a compromise do the second if there is a selection but otherwise the
first

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 99457] One-handed ways to move rows and columns

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--- Comment #18 from Cor Nouws  ---
Paste special does have a Shifty setting too. But this has nothing to do with
the mouse, of course.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 99457] One-handed ways to move rows and columns

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--- Comment #16 from Cor Nouws  ---
(In reply to Dan Dascalescu from comment #14)

> What is so hard about implementing the "Insert cut rows" command from Excel?

Nothing of course. Please go ahead:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 99457] One-handed ways to move rows and columns

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--- Comment #15 from Dan Dascalescu  ---
> IIRC there is some key Ctrl+Alt drag that helps with this?

I use LibreCalc on Ubuntu as well, and you must press alt after you've dragged
the cells, but before you drop them. Caveats:

1. Don't drag cells by the header, but by one of the cells
2. Don't hold Alt while dragging, or Ubuntu will interpret that as the "Move
window" command.

This way of moving cells is not intuitive, and there are multiple questions
about moving cells on SuperUser and similar sites:

http://superuser.com/questions/124487/in-openoffice-calc-how-do-i-drag-and-drop-cells-to-insert-rather-than-replace-t

http://superuser.com/questions/663629/move-rows-with-the-keyboard-in-calc

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 99457] One-handed ways to move rows and columns

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--- Comment #14 from Dan Dascalescu  ---
Bug 58440, bug 65841 and bug 39936 (not fixed in 5 years) indicate what a
clusterfuck (sorry) moving rows in LibreOffice is.

What is so hard about implementing the "Insert cut rows" command from Excel?

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--- Comment #13 from Yousuf (Jay) Philips  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #11)
> Press shift and use the frame to drag the selected cells.
> 
> https://youtu.be/dIBU-LVDjD0
> 
> The vertical indicator means that the copied cells would be inserted between
> cell A1 and A2, for instance.
> 
> Again, my suggestion is to insert when the position is a few pixels away
> from the cell edge and override otherwise (as today). And not to copy Excel.

Yes this is works in excel, but is different in LO and we are focusing on the
moving of rows or columns and not cells, but thanks to it, i was able to figure
out who its done in LO.

So in LO, we can drag the selected rows or columns by dragging on the selected
cells. Dragging by itself is cut and paste, dragging plus ctrl is copy and
paste, and dragging plus alt is move (aka cut, paste and delete). I can
understand why we use cut and paste as the default for dragging selected cells,
but think move should be the default when dragging rows and columns.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 99457] One-handed ways to move rows and columns

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MarjaE  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Summary|Easier method of moving |One-handed ways to move
   |rows and columns|rows and columns

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