Re: [Libreoffice-qa] live issues ticker (was: minutes of ESC call ...)
M I think the idea was to have a ticker for live sysadmin issues, Yes, that's a part of an idea, I will follow up that soon when some other actions with higher priority will have been finished. Best regards Rainer ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] live issues ticker (was: minutes of ESC call ...)
On Fri, 2012-05-18 at 20:35 +0200, Christian Lohmaier wrote: > Well - what is the item about then? My fault for being typically terse :-) I think the idea was to have a ticker for live sysadmin issues, such as the wiki being down for maintenance, or databases being re-built, or ... to avoid thrash on mailing lists. Of course, it's just an idea. HTH, Michael. -- michael.me...@suse.com <><, Pseudo Engineer, itinerant idiot ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] live issues ticker (was: minutes of ESC call ...)
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 6:39 PM, Rainer Bielefeld wrote: > Christian Lohmaier schrieb: > >>> + connect Rainer with sysadmins wrt. status/live issues ticker >>> (Thorsten) > > I do not need any further information concerning new bugs. I use a query > sorting out bugs where already other "trusted staff" is involved (to avoid > double work), and I can't handle more bugs than I find there. Well - what is the item about then? ciao Christian ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of the LibreOffice QA call 2012-05-18 14:00 UTC
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 07:38:10PM +0200, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: > - Yifan had good progress setting this up (Petr) this being MozTrap. Best, Bjoern ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LibreOffice QA call 2012-05-18 14:00 UTC
Korrawit Pruegsanusak schrieb: Another topic(?) -- bugzilla version picker for master / daily branch: * do we need to separate builds from master and release branch Hi, I am still a little wishy-washy, but we are not in a hurry - decision will be required when we get the first 3.7.0Alpha build. But it's a good idea to mention it here, may be we can do some discussion next call. Best regards Rainer ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LibreOffice QA call 2012-05-18 14:00 UTC
Hi Rainer, all, On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 04:00:00PM +0200, Rainer Bielefeld wrote: > Bjoern Michaelsen schrieb: > > >- create a QA EasyHack "Gather own bugzilla requirements" (Bjoern) > > - create a wikipage with what we have so far and link to it (Rainer) > > I will start that during next week I created the EasyHack at https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50099. The stub wiki page is at https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/OwnBugzilla. I think everyone is invited to help out fleshing out the requirement for this! Best, Bjoern ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of the LibreOffice QA call 2012-05-18 14:00 UTC
Hi all, here are the minutes of the LibreOffice QA call is on 2012-05-18 14:00 UTC. attending: Markus, Florian, Rainer, Petr, Bjoern pending action items: - Update/Create active triagers wiki page (Cor/Rainer) - collect further ideas for spending a dedicated resource (Cor/Rainer) -> blocked on CC/Litmus choice & availability - write update scenario testcase in Litmus/MozTrap (Kendy) - bulk change remove EasyHacks in summary, make that white board only (Rainer, Florian, all) (actually not possible in bulk, so lets crowdsource this: when you come across a bug with "EasyHack" in title, please remove it there - Set Cor up with the Community/Forum maintainers at the distros to better propagate Hackfests, Bug Hunting Sessions etc. RedHat, Debian, Gentoo still missing - send a proposal for liberal assigned use in NEEDINFO to Rainer for review (Bjoern) - create a QA EasyHack "Gather own bugzilla requirements" (Bjoern) - create a wikipage with what we have so far and link to it (Rainer) - blog about bug verification (Bjoern) - bibisect: update docs (Bjoern) completed action items: - MozTrap evaluation install (Bjoern) -> obsolete + blog about QA EasyHacks (Cor/Bjoern) -> done by Cor, need repetition of course + blog about daily build changes/bugs/features from git log (Cor) - add EasyHack for bugzilla-twitter integration (Bjoern) - bibisect: also rebuild the old ~50 3.5 bibisect installs for the next update (Bjoern) - obsolete, just needs libjpeg62 package installed on precise structured manual testing: - Yifan had good progress setting this up (Petr) - account creation still creates some issues - still might be ready as soon as next week bug wrangling (Rainer): - bugzilla twitter integration - bugzilla git integration might be a blueprint (Markus) - EasyHack: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50096 - assigning policy: really assign or CC? (Petr) - CC is better, dev can then self-assign AA - update bugwrangling docs to say CC instead of assign (Rainer) - some confusion about the use of "new components" (Rainer) - seems to be a better way to distrubute bugs to devs as teams grow - (assigning to one dev isnt that helpful anymore then) - likely a good topic for our own bugzilla, not worth it earlier (Bjoern) AA - bring topic back to ESC (Rainer, Petr, Bjoern) community building/communication (Cor?) AA+ add yourself on openhatch.org (all) - mark yourself as a mentor for LibreOffice too - QA mentoring (Florian) - EasyHacks seem to work great in dev, we should get something similar for QA - How do we find/identify mentees? - twitter integration might get blood in the project, but here we need those who did some verifications/confirmations to take them to the next level - once we have our own bugzilla we should have a "Wanna meet the QA-team"-link to the QA-List in the header/footer - QA-List is freedesktop/hasslesome (Florian) AA+ - Invite active bugwranglers to next call/QA list, CC Rainer (Bjoern) bibisect for 3.5 release branch and 3.6 master (Bjoern/Korrawit): AA - merge 3.5 and 3.6 in one big bibisect repo (Bjoern) - should be done with the next update, likely around 3.6 branchoff - having bibisect in a PPA for automatic updates would be nice (Florian) - investigate bibisect in a PPA (Bjoern) The next LibreOffice QA call is on 2012-06-01 14:00 UTC. As always comments and additions welcome. Best, Bjoern ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Assigning bug to developer - inconsistency in wiki
Korrawit Pruegsanusak schrieb: I saw Rainer now use method [2] ... and if we confirm using method Hello Korrawit, thank you for the hint, today I found the time to correct that. Best regards Rainer ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] live issues ticker (was: minutes of ESC call ...)
Christian Lohmaier schrieb: + connect Rainer with sysadmins wrt. status/live issues ticker (Thorsten) Hi, I do not need any further information concerning new bugs. I use a query sorting out bugs where already other "trusted staff" is involved (to avoid double work), and I can't handle more bugs than I find there. Best regards Rainer ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] live issues ticker (was: minutes of ESC call ...)
Hi *, On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 10:00 PM, Michael Meeks wrote: > > * Pending Action Items > [...] > + connect Rainer with sysadmins wrt. status/live issues ticker > (Thorsten) > [...] Hmm- what is meant with live issues ticker? You might not be aware, but IZBot did announce newly filed issues in the #libreoffice channel by using bugzilla's rss export of queries. i.e. just create a query with product libreoffice, bug creation between now and one day ago → you got a ticker, not fully-live, as it is not pushed, but pulled like any other rss-feed. ciao Christian ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LibreOffice QA call 2012-05-18 14:00 UTC
Bjoern Michaelsen schrieb: - create a QA EasyHack "Gather own bugzilla requirements" (Bjoern) - create a wikipage with what we have so far and link to it (Rainer) Hi, I will start that during next week Best regards Rainer ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LibreOffice QA call 2012-05-18 14:00 UTC
Hello all, On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 11:55 PM, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: > bibisect for 3.5 release branch and 3.6 master (Bjoern/Korrawit): Just finished uploading 2.62 GB OVA to Elton Chung's layerjet mirror. It contains Ubuntu 12.04 with bibisect-3-5 and -3-6 2012-04-28. * Still not public(?) * Should it be in tdf infra as well? * Someone would like to inspect susestudio.com for another approach or for fdo#47653 ? Another topic(?) -- bugzilla version picker for master / daily branch: * do we need to separate builds from master and release branch * Rainer's proposal: http://rrbd.wordpress.com/2012/05/03/how-can-we-allow-more-purposeful-queries-for-version-master/ * My proposal: when branching -3-x, create "3.(x+1) master" and "3.x daily" for release branch And another topic(?) -- sd import regression test: * http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/unit-test-concept-for-draw-impress-td3655800.html * can we start using it? * still have some bugs in svg export, see http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/tree/sd/qa/unit/data/svg/test.svg * can we grab the file from bugzilla directly? * license concern? And, sorry, I can't attend the call :( Best Regards, -- Korrawit Pruegsanusak ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] live issues ticker (was: minutes of ESC call ...)
Hi *, On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 10:00 PM, Michael Meeks wrote: > > * Pending Action Items > [...] > + connect Rainer with sysadmins wrt. status/live issues ticker > (Thorsten) > [...] Hmm- what is meant with live issues ticker? You might not be aware, but IZBot did announce newly filed issues in the #libreoffice channel by using bugzilla's rss export of queries. i.e. just create a query with product=libreoffice and bug-creation in the last day and you basically have a "live" feed (a typical rss feed, so not pushed, but pulled) But I don't know what this item involves in addition/whether that would already be enough. ciao Christian ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LibreOffice QA call 2012-05-18 14:00 UTC
Bjoern Michaelsen píše v Čt 17. 05. 2012 v 18:55 +0200: > Hi all, > > the next LibreOffice QA call is on 2012-05-18 14:00 UTC -- the agenda is > suspiciously empty so far this time (I havnt had too much time to dig through > the list during UDS), additions and topics most welcome! + inconsistency in the wiki about how to assign bugs, see http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/2012-May/001648.html I am not sure what is the preferred way these days :-) I personally prefer to put developers only into CC unless there is only one known developer interested into the given area. Best Regards, Petr ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] verification tweets (was: minutes of the LibreOffice QA call 2012-05-04 14:00 UTC)
Bjoern Michaelsen píše v Po 07. 05. 2012 v 20:56 +0200: > On Mon, May 07, 2012 at 08:47:24PM +0200, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: > > AA - blog about bug verification (Bjoern) > > I had some additional thoughts on this and think we should make that another > QA > EasyHack: "Twiiter resolved bugs for verification". The task is to set up a > some bot that sends a short tweet about each bug being marked as > resolved/fixed by > development and ask for testing and verifying the fix on master. > > Target is again growing the QA community and getting more people to run master > builds. If there is no violent disagreement about this, I will create such a > EasyHack in a few days. We could do the same asking for bug confirmation, but > would need check that we are not creating too many of those compared to those > asking for verification. Please, let me know the bug number. We could use there output from lo-commit-messages script. Ivan is just proposing a patch that allows reading bug titles from bugzilla. I am about to review it. Best Regards, Petr ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LibreOffice QA call 2012-05-18 14:00 UTC
Hi Florian, On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 07:28:37AM +0200, Florian Reisinger wrote: > Which room? ( or is it always the same) Ups, sorry forget that. Like always: Dial-in numbers for countries outside Germany can be found at: http://www.talkyoo.net/main/telefonkonferenz_internationale_rufnummern Dial-in numbers inside Germany are: +49 40 18881000 (Hamburg, landline) +49 40 95069970 (Hamburg, landline) +49 89 60893 (Munich, landline) +49 1570 3336000 (vistream mobile network) Room: Room number: 53 71 38 No participant PIN is required All calls will be recorded All participants can speak Note that you can also use Skype to join the call. Best, Bjoern ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.5.4 RC1 available
Dear Community, The Document Foundation is happy to announce the first release candidate of LibreOffice 3.5.4. The upcoming 3.5.4 will be the fourth in a series of frequent bugfix releases on our feature-packed 3.5 code line. Please be aware that LibreOffice 3.5.4 RC1 is not ready for production use, you should continue to use LibreOffice 3.5.3 for that. The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA builds download page at http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/ A note for Windows users: this Release Candidate will uninstall your current stable build and replace it. If you do not wish this to happen but still would like to test, you should follow the instructions for installing in parallel: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla: https://bugs.freedesktop.org A good way to assess the RC1 quality is to run some specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test (and the announcement mail: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2011-December/022464.html) For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can e.g. contribute code: https://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/ translate LibreOffice to your language: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Translation_for_3.5 or help with funding our operations: http://challenge.documentfoundation.org/ A list of known issues with 3.5.4 RC1 is available from our wiki: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/3.5.4/RC1 Please find the list of changes against LibreOffice 3.5.3 here: http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/src/bugfixes-libreoffice-3-5-4-release-3.5.4.1.log Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have been possible without your help. Yours, The Document Foundation Board of Directors pgpFzREaL0m0k.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...
On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 08:32:47AM +0200, David Tardon wrote: > On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 09:00:51PM +0100, Michael Meeks wrote: > > + 3.6 status > > + connectivity, reportreader, shell, scp2 > > + will enable adding 10-12 modules to tail_build. > > + will merge next week, in time for 3.6 > > I should clarify this item a bit for the people who did not attend the > call: it is about gbuild conversions I have done recently but have not > merged into master yet. So it would be better phrased as: > > + pending gbuild conversions: connectivity, reportbuilder, shell, scp2 > + ... And there are some numbers regarding gbuild conversions (inferred from my current master checkout with a bit of help from https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Build_System/Module_status): modules: 219 + 4*[1] converted: 120 + 1*[2] - internal: 119 + 1 - external: 1*[3] not converted: 83 + 1*[4] - internal: 18 + 1*[5] - external: 65*[6] ignored: 4 + 1*[7] nothing to convert: 2*[8] special: 5*[9] pending: 4*[A] in progress: 1 + 1*[B] *1 X + Y means X modules from repository core, Y modules from other repositories *2 about 35 of these came from OO.o *3 the lucky winner is clucene :-) *4 these do not include pending and in-progress conversions *5 including guw and migrationanalysis, which may not be relevant anymore *6 including lucene, which can be probably removed now *7 autodoc, cosv, dmake, udm + binfilter *8 distro-configs, icon-themes *9 android, ios, cross_tail_build, cross_toolset, tail_build *A connectivity, reportbuilder, scp2, shell *B testtools + helpcontent2 It is plain to see we are finishing internal modules, which is nice :-) On the other side, we still need to come up with a viable way for converting external projects. D. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
