Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Online update testing
klaus-jürgen weghorn ol píše v St 29. 08. 2012 v 23:09 +0200: Hi, Am 26.08.2012 09:21, schrieb klaus-jürgen weghorn ol: Hi Jan, Am 16.08.2012 15:53, schrieb Jan Holesovsky: Hi Klaus-Juergen, all, I'd like to ask you test the online update a bit. I had to do some larger changes in order to be able to update the 3.5 line to 3.5.6, so now it explicitly preselects 3.5.6 for you, when you try to update from an older version. The 3.6 update (from the previous RC's, for example) should lead you to the generic download page. The 3.6.1.1 doesn't lead to 3.6.1.2. LibreOffice 3.6 ist auf dem neuesten Stand. I want to remember: There is no update call from version 3.6.1.1 to official 3.6.1. It should be fixed now. Please test and report if it does not work. Best Regards, Petr ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Long Time Unconfirmed bugs
Florian Reisinger schrieb: a) Go to the ML libreoffice-qa-pract...@libreoffice.org b) If we have some people there, we could from time to time add this list some bugs of query [1] c) Like here, questions could be raised (It could be compared like this: Hi Florian, to be honest, I am not happy with the idea of adding more proceedings, mailing lists, ... . My suspect is that all that brings up a lot of visible activity without adequate progress. We should not invest so much time in managing unresolved problems, simply let us use the time to solve the problems. The good part of the idea is to contribute queries like you did in your mail. It is something similar like the HardHacks what help us to concentrate on old Bugs what should not be forgotten. If we get such a priority topic from time to time (every 4 weeks or so) we have something where we can see progress with our work Today I see 285 Bugs in your query, may be we can reduce that number to 140 until End of September? I just started with closing Bug 42403 - SLIDESHOW: linked SVG graphics do not show in Slide Show. Best regards Rainer ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Proposed HARDHACK
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 11:52:38AM +0200, Roman Eisele wrote: * https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47368 * https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39007 * https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44664 The report only shows 3.6 MAB, it should be easy to extend to 3.5 and 3.7 MABs, too. Best, Bjoern ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Long Time Unconfirmed bugs
Hi, On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 12:26:55PM +0200, Rainer Bielefeld wrote: to be honest, I am not happy with the idea of adding more proceedings, mailing lists, ... . My suspect is that all that brings up a lot of visible activity without adequate progress. We should not invest so much time in managing unresolved problems, simply let us use the time to solve the problems. I have to agree with Rainer -- we shouldnt fragment the QA teams communication channels -- unless this QA list is drowning in traffic and scaring away newcomers, which is not the case yet. Best, Bjoern ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Proposed HARDHACK
On 08/29/2012 10:38 PM, Rainer Bielefeld wrote: Joel Madero schrieb: We should come up with a better method of tracking vs. each of us making our own list. Hi Joel, yes, indeed! If everyone wants, they can email me and I will keep a combined list that we can discuss during our conference call. You can just email me directly Proposed HARDHACK, I would prefer a more public collection. I will (today) start another thread here where everybody can do a proposal for Bug Numbers, Queries filtering candidates or similar, so that everybody can observe the collection process and do his own thoughts. But it would be really great if you could collect the proposals few days before the next call (then we stop the collection, later proposals will be for the next call) so that we have a common and clear base for discussion and decision. BTW: I still wonder whether it would be possible to have a LibO spreadsheet on a server what can be edited by all interested people (here for the collection of data), see [tdf-discuss] Open document from server Best regards Rainer Hi Rainer, I asked for the website team to look into this for the bug triaging process as well -- google docs is messy..-- as of yet they haven't responded so I'm thinking it's not easy. Google docs IS working for the triaging project it's just not ideal. It's a possibility until we find something better for HARDHACKS. Another less than ideal solution is setting a whiteboard status of PROPOSEDHARDHACK, then we in the QA team can query these out a couple nights before the conference call and write our own thoughts down. I actually think I prefer google docs as we already have too many whiteboard status'. Ultimately, our own spreadsheet on our own server would be ideal. Best Regards, Joel ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] ANNOUNCE: Release plan updated - two weeks between RCs
Hi, on the recent ESC call, we agreed to try two weeks between RCs. It will allow QA to do more testing. Also it will allow developers to fix the found regressions. Please, find the updated release plan at http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan Best Regards, Petr PS: We should add more time between 3.7.0 release and 3.7.1-rc1. There are several possibilities. Let's discuss it as replay to this mail on the dev and qa mailing lists. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Shift 3.7.0 or 3.7.X releases - was: ANNOUNCE: Release plan updated - two weeks between RCs
Petr Mladek píše v Čt 30. 08. 2012 v 16:53 +0200: Hi, on the recent ESC call, we agreed to try two weeks between RCs. It will allow QA to do more testing. Also it will allow developers to fix the found regressions. Please, find the updated release plan at http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan As mentioned, the 3.7.0 release and 3.7.1-rc1 are planed for the same week now. It is bad because there is no time to proceed feedback from 3.7.0 users. Possible solutions: 1. Make 3.7.0 two weeks earlier. I am not happy to change this so close to the feature freeze. 2. Make 3.7.X bugfix releases 1 or 2 weeks later. It might cause troubles for Ubuntu, Fedora, and other distros who planed to use .3 bugfix release in their distro releases. Well, they might use 3.7.3-rc1 or 3.7.2. They should be pretty good as well. The number of weeks for bugfixing stays the same. 3. Remove 3.7.0-rc3 or some beta. It would mean to do the hard code freeze 1 or two weeks earlier = less time for testing and fixing 4. Do 3.7.0-RCs every week (use the original schedule). There is not enough time for feedback = demotivating for QA. I think that the 2nd solution is the best compromise for 3.7.0. The 1st variant would be best for the further releases (3.8.0, 3.9.0). Bjorn, Caolan, others, would you mind if we delay 3.7.X bugfix releases by 1 or 2 weeks? Best Regards, Petr ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] HardHacks
Hi, On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 08:31:21AM +0200, Rainer Bielefeld wrote: ID OS Component - Summary 38913 Linux Libreoffice - CRASH when loading Danish dictionary at startup citing msvcr90.dll after upgrade https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38913 Discussed on ESC and found unsuitable to be picked up by development as-is. The current bugstate has been summarized in: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38913#c41 and explains what is missing for this to be picked up by development. This hopefully answers the (justified) question from comment 8 in that bug. Affected reporters are asked to complete the bug, so development can pick it up. Also note that during the discussion on the ESC it became clear that such a summary of the bug history is essential for HardHacks that are longrunning (10 comments). Thus QA volunteers can help out to provide such summaries for HardHack candidates. Best, Bjoern ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] QA Easyhack prosposal
Hi! Here I have another idea how to let QA part of the community. I am going to try to bring this into a simplenods file... What do you think? MacOS: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?type1-0-0=notsubstringorder=Importancelist_id=118326field0-0-0=days_elapsedop_sys=Mac%20OS%20X%20%28All%29chfieldto=Nowchfield=componentchfield=everconfirmedchfield=rep_platformchfield=op_syschfield=prioritychfield=productchfield=qa_contactchfield=reporter_accessiblequery_format=advancedvalue1-0-0=enhancementbug_status=UNCONFIRMEDtype0-0-0=greaterthanvalue0-0-0=30field1-0-0=bug_severityproduct=LibreOffice Linux: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?type1-0-0=notsubstringlist_id=118327field0-0-0=days_elapsedop_sys=Linux%20%28All%29chfieldto=Nowquery_format=advancedchfield=componentchfield=everconfirmedchfield=rep_platformchfield=op_syschfield=prioritychfield=productchfield=qa_contactchfield=reporter_accessiblebug_status=UNCONFIRMEDvalue1-0-0=enhancementtype0-0-0=greaterthanvalue0-0-0=100field1-0-0=bug_severityproduct=LibreOffice Windows: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?type1-0-0=notsubstringlist_id=118329field0-0-0=days_elapsedop_sys=Windows%20%28All%29chfieldto=Nowquery_format=advancedchfield=componentchfield=everconfirmedchfield=rep_platformchfield=op_syschfield=prioritychfield=productchfield=qa_contactchfield=reporter_accessiblebug_status=UNCONFIRMEDvalue1-0-0=enhancementtype0-0-0=greaterthanvalue0-0-0=100field1-0-0=bug_severityproduct=LibreOffice All: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?type1-0-0=notsubstringlist_id=118332field0-0-0=days_elapsedop_sys=Allchfieldto=Nowquery_format=advancedchfield=componentchfield=everconfirmedchfield=rep_platformchfield=op_syschfield=prioritychfield=productchfield=qa_contactchfield=reporter_accessiblebug_status=UNCONFIRMEDvalue1-0-0=enhancementtype0-0-0=greaterthanvalue0-0-0=150field1-0-0=bug_severityproduct=LibreOffice All (unusual OS) : https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?order=Importancelist_id=118334field0-0-0=days_elapsedbug_severity=blockerbug_severity=criticalbug_severity=majorbug_severity=normalbug_severity=minorbug_severity=trivialop_sys=FreeBSDop_sys=NetBSDop_sys=OpenBSDop_sys=BSD%20%28Others%29op_sys=Solarisop_sys=Cygwinop_sys=AIXop_sys=HP-UXop_sys=IRIXop_sys=Interixop_sys=otherchfieldto=Nowchfield=componentchfield=everconfirmedchfield=rep_platformchfield=op_syschfield=prioritychfield=productchfield=qa_contactchfield=reporter_accessiblequery_format=advancedbug_status=UNCONFIRMEDtype0-0-0=greaterthanproduct=LibreOffice __ Florian Reisinger Von meinem iPad gesendet Sent via iPad ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Proposed HARDHACK
I just came up with a potential idea! What about making a custom search on FDO and just share it with each other? I use a couple custom searches right now, making them is easy, transparent and shared. Just a thought Best Regards, Joel On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 7:05 AM, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com wrote: On 08/29/2012 10:38 PM, Rainer Bielefeld wrote: Joel Madero schrieb: We should come up with a better method of tracking vs. each of us making our own list. Hi Joel, yes, indeed! If everyone wants, they can email me and I will keep a combined list that we can discuss during our conference call. You can just email me directly Proposed HARDHACK, I would prefer a more public collection. I will (today) start another thread here where everybody can do a proposal for Bug Numbers, Queries filtering candidates or similar, so that everybody can observe the collection process and do his own thoughts. But it would be really great if you could collect the proposals few days before the next call (then we stop the collection, later proposals will be for the next call) so that we have a common and clear base for discussion and decision. BTW: I still wonder whether it would be possible to have a LibO spreadsheet on a server what can be edited by all interested people (here for the collection of data), see [tdf-discuss] Open document from server Best regards Rainer Hi Rainer, I asked for the website team to look into this for the bug triaging process as well -- google docs is messy..-- as of yet they haven't responded so I'm thinking it's not easy. Google docs IS working for the triaging project it's just not ideal. It's a possibility until we find something better for HARDHACKS. Another less than ideal solution is setting a whiteboard status of PROPOSEDHARDHACK, then we in the QA team can query these out a couple nights before the conference call and write our own thoughts down. I actually think I prefer google docs as we already have too many whiteboard status'. Ultimately, our own spreadsheet on our own server would be ideal. Best Regards, Joel ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Proposed HARDHACK
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 06:36:40PM -0700, Joel Madero wrote: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47283 Looked at it, Indeed a good candidate. Best, Bjoern ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Regression test (Moztrap) test case localization temporary solution.
Hi Yi Fan, On 27/08/2012 07:19, Yi Fan Jiang wrote: Hi Sophie, Thanks for following this :) I am looking forward to your further input. I'll test more in depth Moztrap tomorrow. For information, I was unable to login using Chrome but it was ok with Firefox. How does it look like when failing to login with Chrome? There is an issue related with CSRF veirication need to follow in current our Moztrap instance. It happens in both Chrome and Firefox randomly, though *refreshing* times of the page will get through the annoying message. Please see: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Moztrap/Moztrap_User_Guide#Registration_and_Login Did you meet the similar problem or something else? This was exactly the problem, and even refreshing didn't work on Chrome, I was able to register, but that's all. Firefox was ok, showing the error once, but after it was ok. BTW. I have added you in the test manager group so that you can play with more features :) Thanks a lot. I've have a computer crash that prevent me for doing anything else than trying to recover everything, but now it's ok and I will have time to go further during tomorrow and over the week-end. Again thanks a lot for working on this and sorry for the delay bring to all this from my side. Kind regards Sophie ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-accessibility] Adding Accessibility component to Bug Assistant
Ti tengo d'occhio schrieb: in my opinion it would be great to have a component for accessibility; it could let developers to better focus on accessibility bugs and, on the other hand, blind people to know that accessibility is important for this project and that submitting bug reports of this type is more than encouraged… Hi, the advantage of an Accessibility Component would be that it can easily be selected from a pulldown, no typos or other mistakes can happen.But a problem is that an Accessibility Component would not indicate what developer might be the one who can fix the problem. So it always would be replaced during the bug triaging and fixing process. An other possibility would be a Whiteboard entry, but that only can be done after a report in a second step, typos might happen, it is too modest. So I currently think about a Bug Submission Assistant enhancement. We can add a checkbox Accessibility affected, and the Assistant will add Accessibility a) as additional pseudo key word to the Bug Summary line. The advantage of this solution is that the key word would be very visible. or b) as additional pseudo key word to the whiteboard or will c) set Key word Accessibility to the Keyword pane (it should not be a problem to get this new key word from FDO). The advantae of this solution is that it also eases and unifies handling in Bugzilla itself, not only via BSA. And of course d) New Component Accessibility still can be discussed. My order of preference (descending): c - a - b - d Your opinion? When we have a solution here, we can start to mark and process accessibility bugs with increased priority. Best regards Rainer ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
