Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LibO International Sites - [el] Ελληνικά (Greek)

2012-09-28 Thread Rainer Bielefeld

I reported some additional Bugs
Bug 55402 - TDF Site [el] (Greek): Outdated version offered for download
Bug 55403 - TDF Site [el] (Greek): Outdated Screenshots with old 
document icons

Bug 55404 - TDF Site [el] (Greek): Missing Installation instructions
Bug 55405 - TDF Site [el] (Greek): LibO component should be written in 
Greek language if linked page is translated
Bug 55406 - TDF Site [el] (Greek): obsolete Installation Link Texts on 
download page.


Until now no feedback from Greek site maintainers, so I will do no 
further investigation for this international site.


CU

Rainer
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Closing FIXED bugs

2012-09-28 Thread Mas
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 3:21 AM, Rainer Bielefeld 
libreoff...@bielefeldundbuss.de wrote:

 Olivier Hallot schrieb:


  I am suggesting to CLOSE less than 15 bugs.



 Hi Olivier,

 I suggest not to do that. The problem are not the few moments you invest
 in closing. The problem is that this Status info will be worrying because
 it's not in accordance with current habits; it might make queries less
 reliable.

 Currently it's more or less common sense to proceed as following:
 Status of a bug will be changed to RESOLVED FIXED (by the developer)  if
 the fix has been introduced into the most early Version where possible and
 planned. With RESOLVED FIXED the work on that bug normally is terminated.

 RESOLVED FIXED may be changed to VERIFIED FIXED if someone did intensive
 tests what proved that the bug is really fixed AND that no other problems
 seem to be caused by the fix. Only a quick test fix works is not
 sufficient.

 Sometimes Bugs become resolution CLOSED as a kind of exclamation mark with
 the implicit statement Work on this bug is definitively terminated,
 discussion finished, if there were insecurities, objections, ... . For
  example this might be appropriate if someone found out that although there
 is a fix the problem still exists under particular circumstances. The
 question was whether the fix is incomplete (or does not work), or whether
 that is a new different bug only showing similar symptoms. CLOSED indicates
 that the discussion has been terminated with the result that work on this
 bug really has been terminated with the fix.

 I will write some more elaborated and precise notes at https://wiki.**
 documentfoundation.org/QA-FAQ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA-FAQ
 and recommend to discuss that on a ESC call (and may be on a QA call) if
 there are concerns or objections.

 Everybody should follow the current habits or a decision of ESC to keep
 queries reliable.

 I will keep you up to date here in this thread.

 Best regards

 Rainer


Thanks Rainer,  The above really makes more sense.

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LO 3.6.2 : about Manage dialog from Conditional Formatting

2012-09-28 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi Jean-Baptiste,

On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 10:29:20AM +0200, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 06:35:57AM +0200, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote:
  Nobody interested to test and answer?
 
 I think it is rather that most in QA already have their share of critical bugs
 to care about.

just wanted to follow up on this one as while we discussed the issue at hand
some more in private, my initial email was probably quite a bit harsh when
standing on its own.

Given that, I was happy that you continued to discuss it constructively. Still
please accept my apologies for the inital blunt reply, and I hope the issue
at hand can be worked out satisfactorily in due time.

Best,

Bjoern
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[Libreoffice-qa] Wish you a nice QA Weekend!

2012-09-28 Thread Roman Eisele

Hi Rainer,
hi other bug wranglers,

reading again about the German QA Weekend starting right now, I realized 
with a little shock that I completely forgot to thank Rainer for the 
invitation (long ago) and to confirm I can not participate -- not that I 
would consider the question of my participation as important in any way 
;-), but it would have been a question of politeness to answer to the 
invitation! Sorry! (*)


But now I wish you all a nice weekend in Essen, full of astonishing 
insights, nice talks, good feeling, and fun! Greetings to all!


Please let me know if there are some results (e.g. about future QA 
organization, etc.) which affect me.


All the best,

Roman



(*) When I first received Rainer's invitation, I had no idea if I could 
find some free days end of Semptember, and so I did not answer for some 
weeks; then another obligation materialized right for that weekend, 
political and inevitable; but at the time this date became fixed, I 
already forgot that I still needed to answer the QA weekend invitation ...

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LO 3.6.2 : about Manage dialog from Conditional Formatting

2012-09-28 Thread Jean-Baptiste Faure
Hi Bjoern,

Thank you very much for your kind words.

I think that this story shows that we need more discussion between
developers, QA-team and power users.
Later I will try to make constructive propositions to improve our
collaboration, for the moment I am building the master to test the
patches commited by Michael for fdo54940. :-)

Best regards.
JBF

Le 28/09/2012 11:29, Bjoern Michaelsen a écrit :
 Hi Jean-Baptiste,

 On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 10:29:20AM +0200, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 06:35:57AM +0200, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote:
 Nobody interested to test and answer?
 I think it is rather that most in QA already have their share of critical 
 bugs
 to care about.
 just wanted to follow up on this one as while we discussed the issue at hand
 some more in private, my initial email was probably quite a bit harsh when
 standing on its own.

 Given that, I was happy that you continued to discuss it constructively. Still
 please accept my apologies for the inital blunt reply, and I hope the issue
 at hand can be worked out satisfactorily in due time.

 Best,

 Bjoern
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] media / gstreamer testing request ...

2012-09-28 Thread Jean-Baptiste Faure
Hi Michael,

Le 28/09/2012 10:58, Michael Meeks a écrit :
 Hi guys,

   The other day I pushed a media speedup for all platforms, and a
 gstreamer media / thumbnailing win for Linux to master.
What do you mean by media speedup ? When loading the document embedding
the media or more smooth when playing the media or both ?
   Of course, intensive testing much appreciated: did I make things
 worse ? :-) does your media thumnail ? can you get the thumbnailer to
 hang (hopefully not but ... throwing things at it is appreciated) - does
 it work well with linked and embedded videos [cf. [x] link in the file
 dialog] ?

   Naturally I did some testing, but I always appreciate more :-)
Tested with master (Build ID: 78a102e). the slideshow from
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48929#c2
works well for me but I have the slideshow with embedded video I used to
test embedding sound/video files into the ODF container
(https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32581#c1) does not work
with this build while it still works with LO 3.6.3.0+. I can send you
the file if you want (~700 ko).

Best regards.
JBF

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