Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of the QA Call tomorrow, Tuesday 1300UTC

2012-10-27 Thread Rainer Bielefeld

Hi,

I agree with all of Bjoern' and bfo's concerns and ideas.

Concerning additional additional Bug report Channels: I can live with 
such solutions if it's granted that such reports find their way to 
Bugzilla immediately, what generally means a person is responsible for 
that task. But checking back to reporter (may be in a foreign language) 
might cost a lot of time, and so I think that a cost/benefit calculation 
will show that such babysitting only can be accepted for very few very 
special classes of bugs.


Concerning BSA improvement: In Bugzilla we already have a small 
collection of ideas. If nobody else starts an initiative: I hope that in 
December I will have some more time than now so that I can do some work 
there, but without a programmer (Rob?) nothing can be done.


Best regards

Rainer
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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 3.6.3 RC2 available

2012-10-27 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is happy to announce the second release
candidate of LibreOffice 3.6.3. The upcoming 3.6.3 will be the third
in a series of frequent bugfix releases, for our feature-packed 3.6
branch. Please be aware that LibreOffice 3.6.3 RC2 is not ready for
production use, you should continue to use LibreOffice 3.6.2 for that.

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

 (and the announcement mail: 
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/2011-December/022464.html)
 
For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Translation_for_3.5

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 3.6.3 RC2 is available
from our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/3.6.3/RC2

If no showstopper bugs are found, this 3.6.3 RC2 is slated to become
3.6.3 final - see our release schedule for that branch:

 http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/3.6#3.6.3_release

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

Yours,

The Document Foundation Board of Directors

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of the QA Call tomorrow, Tuesday 1300UTC

2012-10-27 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 10:22:53AM +0200, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:
 Concerning additional additional Bug report Channels: I can live
 with such solutions if it's granted that such reports find their way
 to Bugzilla immediately, what generally means a person is
 responsible for that task.

Yes, that would be in the responsibility of the local team to take care of.

 But checking back to reporter (may be in a foreign language) might cost a lot
 of time, and so I think that a cost/benefit calculation will show that such
 babysitting only can be accepted for very few very special classes of bugs.

That depends on whose time it costs. If it costs the time of a wider audience
(and not creates additional load on the current bugwranglers) and thus get a)
more people involved and b) broadens the knowledge on how to make bug reports
good, it shouldnt hurt and might help.

 Concerning BSA improvement: In Bugzilla we already have a small
 collection of ideas. If nobody else starts an initiative: I hope
 that in December I will have some more time than now so that I can
 do some work there, but without a programmer (Rob?) nothing can be
 done.

Sure, that is always the limit in the end ;).

Best,

Bjoern
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [bjoern.michael...@canonical.com: minutes of the QA Call tomorrow, Tuesday 1300UTC]

2012-10-27 Thread Sophie Gautier
Hi Björn,
On 23/10/2012 21:46, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote:
 Hi Sophie,
 
 On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 09:16:32PM +0200, Sophie Gautier wrote:
 On 23/10/2012 17:39, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote:
 Hi,

 please feel invited to discuss the proposal below. The idea is basically 
 this:
 - let people file bugs on the BSA (bug submission agent) in a few selected 
 native languages
 - instead of creating a bug on bugzilla, send the stuff to the local 
 mailing list
 - the local team:
   - looks for duplicates
   - asks for missing info
   - finally files a translated high quality bug report

 This might help improve both the low quality bug reports we get from the 
 BSA,
 and enable local contributors top get involved. However, it also requires 
 the
 local teams to quickly handle the load.

 I think it's a really nice idea. Please let me the time to discuss this
 with the FR QA team and come with his feedback.
 
 Just another thought: Since the TDF already has an instance of OTRS running 
 at:
 
  https://otrs.documentfoundation.org

and how do I log on this marvelous tool ;-) I can't see any way where I
can request an account. Also, where is it already in use, is it in the
QA project ?

Kind regards
Sophie

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