Re: [Libreoffice-qa] North America Pub Chat

2013-10-10 Thread James Michael DuPont
Howdy,
I am on CST (*UTC/GMT -5 hours) *and work full time. As a volunteer I would
be willing to chat any time outside of my normal 8-6
thanks
mike


On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 11:50 AM, bjoern bjoern.michael...@canonical.comwrote:

 On Mon, Oct 07, 2013 at 07:44:53AM -0700, Joel Madero wrote:
  So far I've gotten no interest in this at all (which is
  unfortunate). If I don't get at least a few responses by Wednesday
  I' going to call it off (as it's really just not worth it if we
  don't have minimum of 4 preferably 5-6). It would be really nice to
  get a North American team consistently contributing as right now
  Europe dominates the contributor side and IMHO it looks bad for us
  in North America to be using the product but not contributing
  something in return as FLOSS software really depends on a community,
  a give and take relationship. Really 1 hour a month is enough time
  to give back a bit.

 Hi,

 I dont know if I can make it this Friday, but could you also point out the
 time
 in UTC too? For a continental european guest a time like 12:00pm EST is
 ultimately confusing -- is that EST or 2400EST?

 Best,

 Bjoern
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[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2013-10-10 Thread Michael Meeks
* Present:
+ Miklos, Andras, Caolan, David, kendy, Kohei, Eike, Markus, Stephan,
  Tibby, Robinson, Cloph, Bjoern, Michael M, Michael S
* Completed Action Items
+ CC developers' mailing list on all the easy hacks (Bjoern)
+ poke marketing / PR for 4.1.2 announce (Cloph)
+ change wiki page to eliminate proposed easy hacks (Bjoern)
+ create a script that counts bug commenters stats for minor release update 
PR (Bjoern)
+ switch to 10.8 baseline for Mac / 64bit (Norbert)
+ ask Rob to turn auto-'regression' status off on the BSA (Robinson)
   [ bug filed ]
* Pending Action Items:
+ find better way to export from Coverity categories of non-security 
critical bugs (Caolan)
+ design-team raising template concerns, address these if possible  push 
(Ahmad)
+ setup infrastructure to build bibisect repos (Cloph / Bjoern / Norbert)
+ propose different name for proposed easy hacks (Markus)
+ produce a VM for the load / crash regressions (Cloph / Markus)
+ partition document test loads / run them on tinderboxen (Norbert)
+ produce a VM with callgrind metrics (Matus)
+ transition and automate this inside a VM for Cloph (Lionel)
+ create script to auto-mail users list for each API Change commit 
(Bjoern/Stephan)
+ ask Florian for a minimal / simple solution for larger bug docs (Robinson)
* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ 4.1.2 retrospective
+ wider RC3 / delay announcement
+ will activate automatic update today.
+ 4.0.6 RC1 status
+ pushed to the mirrors, ready to be announced later today
+ 4.1.3 RC1 - status
+ on the way to the mirrors
+ 4.0.6 RC2 deadline - next Monday
+ 4.1.3 RC2 - deadline week after
+ can we include the new bug-triager credits script for minor updaes ? 
(Bjoern)
+ a script that generates data on who commented in the related bugs
AI: + point Cloph at script in dev-tools (Bjoern)
+ GSOC / Android  iOS remote releases ?
+ previously pushed every update to the release branch (Miklos)
+ so ok to release from master ?
AI: + get setup wrt. mobile app-store access (Cloph / Thorsten)
AI: + ask app-authors wrt. freeze (Kendy)
* obsolete git branch cleanup (Thorsten)
+ git push origin --delete branchName
AI: + mail out list of branches (Michael)
* New Google C* font replacements (Caolan)
+ http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.devel/186967
+ Carlito - Calibri
+ Caladea - Cambria
+ packaging them for Fedora - into LibreOffice.
* Regression analysis (Bjoern)
+ good news, fixing more regressions than we're introducing
+ the stats are going up, but thought to be better QA / triage.
+ because marking more:
+ ~50% of bugs closed in a major release, marked as regressions
+ conclusion:
+ doing a reasonable job of keeping regressions under control since 3.6
+ continued focus on unit-testing important.
+ could / focus on areas where we detected most regressions.
   + hope is that fixes come with unit tests so we do focus there 
(Michael)
+ would be good to scrape bugzilla for 'regression' that were fixed
+ identify code in commit  find most regression-prone code.
AI: + create easy-hack to indentify the above (Bjoern)
  + https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=66750 done
+ way too few unit-tests for impress (Kendy)
+ contrast with the weekly stats which seem to climb endlessly (Michael M)
+ around 100 of our 'regressions' - needinfo or unconfirmed (Bjoern)
+ could we review / de-tagging these ?
AI: + QA team can prioritise that (Robinson)
+ Link that has regressions introduced in recent minor releases (Michael S)
http://bit.ly/18RVbgp

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?keywords=regression%2C%20keywords_type=allwordsquery_format=advancedbug_status=NEWbug_status=ASSIGNEDbug_status=REOPENEDversion=4.0.1.1%20rcversion=4.0.1.2%20releaseversion=4.0.2.1%20rcversion=4.0.2.2%20releaseversion=4.0.3.1%20rcversion=4.0.3.2%20rcversion=4.0.3.3%20releaseversion=4.0.4.1%20rcversion=4.0.4.2%20releaseversion=4.0.5.1%20rcversion=4.0.5.2%20releaseproduct=LibreOfficelist_id=353044
+ be good to look into these specifically
* Bundled extensions (Stephan)
+ one left - presentation minimizer
+ de-extensionalizing by David O planned
+ one instdir/ issue - bundled extensions don't show up
+ lots of --enable-ext-whatever foo in configure, that bundle extn's
  we hardly ever build, if we get rid of them, we avoid needing to fix
  instdir to not include them.
+ distro-configs for TDF builds, include wikipublisher, nlpsolver
+ do we want to have those ?
+ we need the nlpsolver (Kohei)
+ is it built locally - or is it a tarball (Stephan)
+ external pkg, but built locally (Kohei)
+ thought there was an UNO wrapper for it.

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-projects] minutes of ESC call ...

2013-10-10 Thread David Tardon
Hi,

On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 05:09:34PM +0100, Michael Meeks wrote:
 * Bundled extensions (Stephan)

So, some extra thoughts / suggestions for that:

There are two categories of extensions:

1. Internal extensions. These are built from sources and include
   presentation-minimizer, nlpsolver, wiki-publisher and
   mysql-connector-ooo. I think it should be easy to add a
   GeneratedPackage into the Extension gbuild class that copies the
   extension root dir from workdir to the right place in instdir. (The
   .oxt file will still be produced and copied to solver, but I do not
   think this is worth any more effort. Much better way to spend one's
   time would be to convert these extensions to optional components.)

   I will look into this tomorrow.

2. External extensions. These are merely copied to solver from
   $TARBALL_LOCATION (in extras/Package_extensions.mk). It would be very
   easy to unpack them and copy them to instdir instead (i.e., what is
   needed is to create an UnpackedTarball and ExternalPackage for every
   one of them and change ARCHIVE for FILELIST in scp2). There is 14 of
   these extensions in extras, plus ct2n which is already repacked
   during build. If this is agreed upon, I suggest to move the makefiles
   to a new module, e.g., extensions, as extras is cluttered enough
   already.

   This would be very suitable for an easy hack.

D.
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.1.2 RC3 test builds available

2013-10-10 Thread bjoern
Hi,

On Sun, Oct 06, 2013 at 02:20:49PM +0200, bjoern wrote:
 Not at all, since the builds themselves are provided by volunteers. Of course,
 you are invited to maintain a tinderbox providing daily builds in a more
 reliable fashion (or help out with one of the existing ones). Actually that
 would be most welcome!

FWIW, there are now current builds by Win-x86_9-Voreppe on

 http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/libreoffice-4-1/

and a reasonably recent bibisect at

 http://people.canonical.com/~j-lallement/libreoffice/binrepo/

and my machine is also currently building a additional bibisect, just to be
safe.

For the rest, see: 
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Libreoffice-qa-minutes-of-ESC-call-td4077534.html

Best,

Bjoern
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.1.2 RC3 test builds available

2013-10-10 Thread Pedro
Hi Björn

Thank you for the update.


Bjoern Michaelsen wrote
 FWIW, there are now current builds by Win-x86_9-Voreppe on
 
  http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/libreoffice-4-1/
 
 and a reasonably recent bibisect at
 
  http://people.canonical.com/~j-lallement/libreoffice/binrepo/
 
 and my machine is also currently building a additional bibisect, just to
 be
 safe.
 
 For the rest, see:
 http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Libreoffice-qa-minutes-of-ESC-call-td4077534.html

The discussion referred to Master builds. Not only for Windows but according
to Thomas also for Debian.
I know that human resources are scarce and valuable (it just find it amusing
when PR starts bragging about the hundreds of devs) but if testing ahead
is important then TDF needs to make sure that the tinderboxes (at least
those owned by TDF) keep sharing valid binaries ;)

Best regards,
Pedro



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