Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [MozTrap] need info

2013-11-24 Thread Sophie
Le 25/11/2013 08:48, Marina Latini a écrit :
> Thank you Sophie!
> 
> I can download and execute the tests in English.

Great, and thanks a lot for your participation! I've still some
update/corrections on the tests to make, I'll set a new run of tests for
4.2.0 beta2 by the end of the week.
> 
> JFYI... In the page [1], LibreOffice is written "Libreoffice" with
> the first "o" in lowercase instead of uppercase :)
> 
> [1] http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/runtests/

This is now corrected, thank you for your feedback.
> 
> have a nice day! Marina

You too!
Kind regards
Sophie
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [MozTrap] need info

2013-11-24 Thread Marina Latini
Thank you Sophie!

I can download and execute the tests in English.

JFYI... In the page [1], LibreOffice is written "Libreoffice" with the first 
"o" in lowercase instead of uppercase :)

[1] http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/runtests/

have a nice day!
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Inviato: Lunedì, 25 novembre 2013 8:23:38
Oggetto: Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [MozTrap] need info

We will run a session on the 4.2.0 beta2 version, the tests and
environment will be in English, but you can apply them to your localized
version if you wish.

Kind regards
Sophie
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Improving UI Accessibility

2013-11-24 Thread Sophie
Hi Robinson,
Le 21/11/2013 20:25, Robinson Tryon a écrit :
> Hi QA,
> 
> Per our discussion at the QA Meeting on Monday[1], I talked to the ESC
> about our concerns with keyboard a11y issues in new/converted UIs.
> 
> ESC was helpful in suggesting several steps to remedy these shorfalls 
> including
> * Turning bugs into EasyHacks that can be more easily addressed
> * Providing documentation on a11y testing/dev tools
> 
> Stuart/Florian R. - Thank you for bringing these problems up at the QA
> Meeting. A11y is really important for us as a project, and it's great
> to have people ensuring that we're not regressing as we improve
> LibreOffice's UI. I'd like you two to take the lead on addressing
> these bugs and providing feedback in a format that's actionable by the
> devs.
> 
> Regarding testing, perhaps there are specific things that we could do
> with MozTrap to identify a11y-relevant changes early-on. Sophie -
> thoughts? :-)

It would be possible to design special testing cases using Orca under
Linux for example. It's also possible to check for the information that
are passed to the screen reader with Accerciser [1], I used to test OOo
that way some time ago.

[1]https://developer.gnome.org/accerciser/stable/

Cheers
Sophie

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] QA-event ??

2013-11-24 Thread Sophie
Hi Cor,
Le 18/11/2013 22:32, Cor Nouws a écrit :
> Sophie wrote (17-11-13 19:23)
> 
>> May be we could include the manual tests I'm preparing for the beta too?
> 
> Yes, good idea!
> (And great to read that you are working on this :) )

So I've prepared the wiki page, are you ok with it? Should I ask the
marketing project to make some announcements about it?

Cheers
Sophie

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [MozTrap] need info

2013-11-24 Thread Sophie
Hi Marina,
Le 21/11/2013 18:35, Marina Latini a écrit :
> Hi all! I'm a newbe tester and I'm searching for informations.

Welcome to the group!
> 
> I'm using LibreOffice with Italian locale but I can't find Italian in
> the section "SET YOUR ENVIRONMENT". How can I proceed?

Currently, Moztrap is only in English and can't run in your locale. If
you see other locales it's because we have tried some localization but
it didn't work well. We hope in the future to be able to add translation
of Moztrap UI and tests.
We will run a session on the 4.2.0 beta2 version, the tests and
environment will be in English, but you can apply them to your localized
version if you wish.

Kind regards
Sophie
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Tinderbox builds

2013-11-24 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Pedro wrote:
> State of daily Master builds (for Windows) on the 22nd of November 2013:
> 
Thx for the overview!

> Comments:
> 
> 1) Tinderbox (alias TB) #39 and #42 don't provide the needed txt
> file
>
Seems to be related to the different tinderbox scripts (both use
buildbot/tb/tb). Currently lack the cycles to have a deeper look,
maybe someone else could port that over from tb2?

> 2) TB #39 and #42 are building Master builds for the upcoming 4.3 branch (as
> expected) but there are no 4.2 branch daily builds
>
Good point, let me add that.

> 3) Build names for TB #42 are still different from the other TBs
>
Let me attempt to fix that, too.

Cheers,

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Fantastic Work QA Team :)

2013-11-24 Thread Joren DC
Joel Madero schreef op 24/11/13 18:04:
> Hi All,
>
> Last week I sent out an email congratulating the team for getting the
> bug count down to 1,1,24 unconfirmed bugs (this was down nearly 100 in
> just a couple weeks).
>
> Well, thanks to some incredible effort by members of the team, we're
> now down to 987 bugs - in just 3 days (yes, 3) we've dropped the
> number by nearly 150 bugs. We've also handled a ton of the really old
> unconfirmed bugs which is great.
To visualize this spectacular drop:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/reports.cgi?product=LibreOffice&datasets=UNCONFIRMED

Nice work team!

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Joren

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Fantastic Work QA Team :)

2013-11-24 Thread Tommy
On Sun, 24 Nov 2013 18:04:10 +0100, Joel Madero   
wrote:



Hi All,

Last week I sent out an email congratulating the team for getting the
bug count down to 1,1,24 unconfirmed bugs (this was down nearly 100 in
just a couple weeks).

Well, thanks to some incredible effort by members of the team, we're now
down to 987 bugs - in just 3 days (yes, 3) we've dropped the number by
nearly 150 bugs. We've also handled a ton of the really old unconfirmed
bugs which is great.

This being said, we're always looking for new volunteers - a few new
people have joined in the last month or so and we could still use
another 20 probably. So if you're on the fence and thinking "I'd like to
contribute" -- really now's the time, and just to reiterate -- _no
programming skills are needed_ :)


Warmest Regards,
Joel



as said in a previous mail to the list:

open this link and scroll to bottom of the page):
http://snipurl.com/287u2ky

the UNCONFIRMED bug count is again below 1000.
many thanks to all the QA volunteers who helped reaching this goal.

I think that the QA team should monitor all the other figures of the first  
column (which is about all open bugs).


actually the situation is:

UNCONFIRMED -->  987
NEW --> 6095
ASSIGNED ->  168
REOPENED ->  350
NEEDINFO ->  913
TOTAL-> 8513

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Fantastic Work QA Team :)

2013-11-24 Thread Thomas Hackert
Hello Joel, *,
On Sonntag, 24. November 2013 18:04 Joel Madero wrote:
> Last week I sent out an email congratulating the team for getting
> the bug count down to 1,1,24 unconfirmed bugs (this was down
> nearly 100 in just a couple weeks).
> 
> Well, thanks to some incredible effort by members of the team,
> we're now down to 987 bugs - in just 3 days (yes, 3) we've dropped
> the number by nearly 150 bugs. We've also handled a ton of the
> really old unconfirmed bugs which is great.

cool, that sounds great :) Thanks to you all, who have done this 
work :)

> This being said, we're always looking for new volunteers - a few
> new people have joined in the last month or so and we could still
> use another 20 probably. So if you're on the fence and thinking
> "I'd like to contribute" -- really now's the time, and just to
> reiterate -- _no programming skills are needed_ :)

We need to finish the Germanophone translation first (where I 
already found some bugs, and not only translation-related ones ... 
;) ), but I will join QA, when it is finished ... ;)
Thanks again for your work
Thomas.

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[Libreoffice-qa] Fantastic Work QA Team :)

2013-11-24 Thread Joel Madero

Hi All,

Last week I sent out an email congratulating the team for getting the 
bug count down to 1,1,24 unconfirmed bugs (this was down nearly 100 in 
just a couple weeks).


Well, thanks to some incredible effort by members of the team, we're now 
down to 987 bugs - in just 3 days (yes, 3) we've dropped the number by 
nearly 150 bugs. We've also handled a ton of the really old unconfirmed 
bugs which is great.


This being said, we're always looking for new volunteers - a few new 
people have joined in the last month or so and we could still use 
another 20 probably. So if you're on the fence and thinking "I'd like to 
contribute" -- really now's the time, and just to reiterate -- _no 
programming skills are needed_ :)



Warmest Regards,
Joel

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[Libreoffice-qa] 4.2 beta1 please install and test :)

2013-11-24 Thread Joel Madero

Hi All,

So 4.2 beta 1 is packaged and ready to go. I hope everyone in QA will 
take the time it install it and play around with it - this is the only 
way we'll catch any nasty bugs before release.


http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/


Thanks all for the help, truly this is a great team of people :-D



Warmest Regards,
Joel
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Wrong naming under "Format - Conditional Formatting - Condition..."

2013-11-24 Thread Thomas Hackert
Hello Markus, *,
On Sonntag, 24. November 2013 14:00 Markus Mohrhard wrote:
> 2013/11/24 Thomas Hackert 
>> I need someone with an other UI language than German or English
>> (where this problem does not exist ... ;) ), who may can confirm
>> the following:
>>
>> When I open Calc and go to"Format - Conditional Formatting -
>> Condition...", select "All Cells", "Icon Set" and choose "4
>> Circles Red and Black", I see in the English UI, what it says
>> (circles in red and black). But if I switch the UI to German, use
>> the translated menu items ("Format - Bedingte Formatierung -
>> Bedingung", then "Alle Zellen", "Symbolstil" and "4 Kreise rot &
>> schwarz"), I see arrows here (one red down, two yellow slanting,
>> one green up) ... :( Can someone confirm it with an other
>> language/OS/architecture/else? And is it intended or a bug (if
>> so, does anyone know, if it is already reported)?
>>
> If it only happens in non EN-US builds it is just a missing
> translation for the new icon sets. I added a few new icon sets
> which might have moved translations.

O.K.

> Please keep that in mind and check it in the release build after
> all new strings have been translated. In general I think that such
> problems should not require a report yet. If you can't reproduce
> such or similar bugs in en_US I would always wait a bit until the
> translations catch up with the development work.

Well, I prefer to ask here first to see, if it is only a problem 
with the German UI/help or is it in other languages as well (or 
maybe some Win vs. GNU/Linux, 32bit vs. 64bit etc. only stuff ... ;) 
).
Thank you for your answer
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[Libreoffice-qa] UNCONFIRMED bug count below 1000

2013-11-24 Thread Tommy

as you all can see here (scroll to bottom of the page):
http://snipurl.com/287u2ky

the UNCONFIRMED bug count is again below 1000.
many thanks to all the QA volunteers who helped reaching this goal.

I think that the QA team should monitor all the other figures of the first  
column (which is about all open bugs).


actually the situation is:

UNCONFIRMED -->  996
NEW --> 6089
ASSIGNED ->  169
REOPENED ->  347
NEEDINFO ->  910
TOTAL-> 8511

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Wrong naming under "Format - Conditional Formatting - Condition..."

2013-11-24 Thread Markus Mohrhard
Hey,


2013/11/24 Thomas Hackert 

> Hello @ll,
> I need someone with an other UI language than German or English
> (where this problem does not exist ... ;) ), who may can confirm the
> following:
>
> When I open Calc and go to"Format - Conditional Formatting -
> Condition...", select "All Cells", "Icon Set" and choose "4 Circles
> Red and Black", I see in the English UI, what it says (circles in
> red and black). But if I switch the UI to German, use the translated
> menu items ("Format - Bedingte Formatierung - Bedingung", then "Alle
> Zellen", "Symbolstil" and "4 Kreise rot & schwarz"), I see arrows
> here (one red down, two yellow slanting, one green up) ... :( Can
> someone confirm it with an other language/OS/architecture/else? And
> is it intended or a bug (if so, does anyone know, if it is already
> reported)?
>
>
If it only happens in non EN-US builds it is just a missing translation for
the new icon sets. I added a few new icon sets which might have moved
translations.

Please keep that in mind and check it in the release build after all new
strings have been translated. In general I think that such problems should
not require a report yet. If you can't reproduce such or similar bugs in
en_US I would always wait a bit until the translations catch up with the
development work.

Regards,
Markus
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[Libreoffice-qa] Despite of installed OLH, LO opens help in OS's default browser?

2013-11-24 Thread Thomas Hackert
Hello @ll,
I found another bug with LO Version: 4.2.0.0.beta1 Build-ID: 
f4ca7b35f580827ad2c69ea6d29f7c9b48ebbac7 (parallel installed, 
following the instructions on 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel, and with 
Germanophone help- as well as langpack): After starting LO and 
pressing  to open the installed help, LO always starts konqueror 
(and where I only see an "OK", as if it has called Apache's default 
website, I think) ... :( Is this intended or is it really a bug 
(what I think)?
Discovered with
OS: Debian Testing AMD64
LO: LO Version: 4.2.0.0.beta1 Build-ID:  
f4ca7b35f580827ad2c69ea6d29f7c9b48ebbac7

TIA for testing
Thomas.

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[Libreoffice-qa] Wrong naming under "Format - Conditional Formatting - Condition..."

2013-11-24 Thread Thomas Hackert
Hello @ll,
I need someone with an other UI language than German or English 
(where this problem does not exist ... ;) ), who may can confirm the 
following:

When I open Calc and go to"Format - Conditional Formatting - 
Condition...", select "All Cells", "Icon Set" and choose "4 Circles 
Red and Black", I see in the English UI, what it says (circles in 
red and black). But if I switch the UI to German, use the translated 
menu items ("Format - Bedingte Formatierung - Bedingung", then "Alle 
Zellen", "Symbolstil" and "4 Kreise rot & schwarz"), I see arrows 
here (one red down, two yellow slanting, one green up) ... :( Can 
someone confirm it with an other language/OS/architecture/else? And 
is it intended or a bug (if so, does anyone know, if it is already 
reported)?

OS: Debian Testing AMD64
LO: Version: 4.2.0.0.beta1 Build-ID: 
f4ca7b35f580827ad2c69ea6d29f7c9b48ebbac7

TIA
Thomas.

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.2.0 beta1 test builds available

2013-11-24 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Christian Lohmaier
 wrote:
> Hi *,
>
> for the upcoming new version 4.2.0, the builds for beta1 are now
> available on pre-releases
>
> It is the first of two betas  (and thus a LibreOfficeDev build) and
> can be installed alongside the stable version.

Repro table for 4.2 MAB is here:
http://testing.eagleeyet.net/~qubit/mab-mockup/?MAB=4.2

With proper tags in the whiteboard (see the page for syntax), we can
easily track the status of all bugs in the 4.2 MAB list as tested
against individual build/OS tuples.

Cheers,
--R
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