[Libreoffice-qa] 4.2.1 is a Stable version???

2014-03-08 Thread Pedro
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/

Since when an x.x.1 version is Stable???

LibreOffice is available in the following stable versions:
4.1.5
4.2.1


You (TDF) don't even follow your own rules. This is all a joke!

I guess you have still haven't understood why LibreOffice credibility isn't
growing and OpenOffice (in spite of being well behind LO in features) is
still the name that people care about... It's because of Quality!!!

As long as Marketing is more important than Quality, this won't change.

My disappointed 2 cents...



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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] 4.2.1 is a Stable version???

2014-03-08 Thread Florian Reisinger

Hi Pedro,

I agree with you. It might be wise to make the stable version much more 
visible :) [LibreOffice release versions are: 4.1.5 4.2.1 ]


Am 08.03.2014 11:00, schrieb Pedro:

http://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/

Since when an x.x.1 version is Stable???

LibreOffice is available in the following stable versions:
 4.1.5
 4.2.1


You (TDF) don't even follow your own rules. This is all a joke!

I guess you have still haven't understood why LibreOffice credibility isn't
growing and OpenOffice (in spite of being well behind LO in features) is
still the name that people care about... It's because of Quality!!!

As long as Marketing is more important than Quality, this won't change.

My disappointed 2 cents...



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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] 4.2.1 is a Stable version???

2014-03-08 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Pedro,

On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Pedro pedl...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/

 Since when an x.x.1 version is Stable???

I'm alsways astonished about your memory

It has always been that way. we have testing (the RCs), stable (the
final versions) and old (the archived releases).

.0 and .1 were always stable.

They are not for conservative users, but that is different from being
stable vs testing.

/me this time won't write a comment that people surely will
misinterpret, yaddayadda..

ciao
Christian
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[Libreoffice-qa] [MozTrap] Basic check that the help is open on the wiki when it is not installed or in as summary of test case #36?

2014-03-08 Thread Thomas Hackert
Hello Sophie, *,
as I wanted to test a little bit further in MozTrap, I discovered 
the line

quote
Basic check that the help is open on the wiki when it is not 
installed or in
/quote

as a summary for test case #36 
(http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/manage/caseversion/1085/) ... :( Should 
this 
not be something like

quote
Basic check that the help opens on the wiki when it is not installed 
or opens the installed application help
/quote

or something like that ;? Or is it a problem with my system / 
browser?

Discovered with
Browser: Firefox 29.0a2 (2014-03-07)
OS: Debian Testing i386

Sorry for the inconvenience
Thomas.

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] 4.2.1 is a Stable version???

2014-03-08 Thread Pedro
Hi Christian, *


Christian Lohmaier-3 wrote
 They are not for conservative users, but that is different from being
 stable vs testing.

You are right about Stable vs Testing. My mistake (but that is just
nit-picking...)

The fact that version 4.2.1 is being pushed to every new user (with an
almost hidden and currently outdated Release Notes as an argument that
people are warned) proves that Quality is an after-thought...

Still disappointed. 



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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] 4.2.1 is a Stable version???

2014-03-08 Thread M Henri Day
2014-03-08 17:50 GMT+01:00 Pedro pedl...@gmail.com:

 Hi Christian, *


 Christian Lohmaier-3 wrote
  They are not for conservative users, but that is different from being
  stable vs testing.

 You are right about Stable vs Testing. My mistake (but that is just
 nit-picking...)

 The fact that version 4.2.1 is being pushed to every new user (with an
 almost hidden and currently outdated Release Notes as an argument that
 people are warned) proves that Quality is an after-thought...

 Still disappointed.


​But Pedro, surely quality is not a function of terminology - or
numerology, ​
​for that matter ? Whether version 4.2.1 is ready for release to the
general public without a warning has more to do with how well and how
reliably it functions than that the third digit is a «1»

Kudos to the developers, who in my opinion, have done a great job in
providing us users with quality products !...

Henri
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[Libreoffice-qa] [Math] Icons flickering, when moving mouse pointer between different symbols

2014-03-08 Thread Thomas Hackert
Hello @ll,
sorry for that lame subject, but I do not know the right names for 
the side panel, its symbols, etc. ... :(

As I tested in MozTrap, where I reached test #43 
(http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/manage/caseversion/1090/), I discovered, 
that 
moving the mouse pointer between the symbols on the left (this plus 
sign with shadowed square there, for example ... ;) ), leads to a 
flickering of the other symbols there ... :( Is this intended, or is 
it a bug?

Discovered with
LO: Version: 4.2.2.1 Build-ID: 
3be8cda0bddd8e430d8cda1ebfd581265cca5a0f
OS: Debian Testing i386
Graphics chip: Intel Mobile 945 GSE Express
driver: xserver-xorg-video-intel 2.21.15-2+b1 w/ libdrm-intel1 
2.4.52-1

Can someone confirm this with a different OS/architecture/graphics 
chip (card)/etc?

Thanks for testing in advance
Thomas.

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