Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2014-10-09 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Thu, Oct 09, 2014 at 04:35:12PM +0100, Caolán McNamara wrote:
> Wouldn't it be nice if the bugs could be split into two categories of
> 100% reproducible and not, and script the 100% reproducers and
> automatically re-run the script on each milestone to see which ones got
> fixed in passing. Though I guess in practice that would depend on
> reliable gui automation in a lot of cases.

Hmm, I kinda like that. Just wondering: Maybe we should have an EasyHack to
write tests for these regressions? At least some of those should be possible to
recreate in good test code. For one, this would give us relevant information:
1/ Is this regression really still around on master
2/ Should allow full-auto bibisect to the commit introducing the trouble
3/ Is this a Heisenbug? Does it happen on all platform? etc.

And fianlly: We will have a test in the end even after this is fixed. After
all, we all know that the motivation to write a test drops even harder once
there is a fix as "this is not a problem anymore".

Best,

Bjoern
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2014-10-09 Thread Caolán McNamara
On Thu, 2014-10-09 at 15:59 +0100, Michael Meeks wrote:
> Writer - 151 (+9)
>Spreadsheet -  96 (+3)
>   Presentation -  32 (+0)
>Crashes -  31 (+0)
>   Database -  25 (-1)
>Libreoffice -  24 (+0)
>   Graphics -  23 (+1)
> UI -  23 (+0)
>Drawing -  19 (+3)
>Borders -  19 (+0)
>Filters -  18 (+1)
>Print / PDF -  14 (+0)
>  Chart -  11 (+1)
>  BASIC -   5 (+0)
> Extensions -   5 (+0)
> Linguistic -   4 (+0)
>   Installation -   4 (+0)
>Formula -   4 (+0)
>  framework -   1 (+0)
>sdk -   0 (+0)
> Impress Remote -   0 (+0)

Wouldn't it be nice if the bugs could be split into two categories of
100% reproducible and not, and script the 100% reproducers and
automatically re-run the script on each milestone to see which ones got
fixed in passing. Though I guess in practice that would depend on
reliable gui automation in a lot of cases.

C.

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[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2014-10-09 Thread Michael Meeks
* Present:
+ Andras, Caolán, David, Michael, Miklos, Kendy, Stephan, Cloph,
  Muthu, Eike, Robinson, Michael S, Jacobo, Bjoern, Kohei
 
* Completed Action Items:
+ provide wiki links for new processes for design interation (Mirek)
  [if you want a UX topic be discussed, just go to
   http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/design and add it as
   a topic, it will be discussed at the next meeting (Kendy)]
+ copy/paste the 4.3 schedule -> 4.5 schedule wiki page (Cloph)
  [ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/4.5
distro builders, please check whether it is conflicting with
your schedule, labelled preliminary, please check ]
+ create an Easy-hack for enabling XML validators automatically (Miklos)
  [ Have a script that easily sets it up: fdo#84600 ]
 
* Pending Action Items:
+ Ask Bjoern to do a survey on the wrench icons (Kendy)
+ come back next week with a proposal for Mac / gatekeeper bits (Norbert)
 
* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ 4.2.7 RC2
+ next week is the deadline for the final version of 4.2.x
+ also time for the first alpha release of 4.4
+ reviews appreciated for:
+ some custom wrapper for LibreOffice needs adapting:
+ https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/11700/
AI: + review it (Andras, Caolan, Cloph, Michael)
+ 4.3.3 RC1
+ tagged, built and announced to early-testing & QA lists.
+ deadline for RC2 is in ~2x weeks.
+ master
+ switched master to create only one core package for deb/RPM
+ just 'core' not core01 -> core07
+ thought the reason was that EPM wasn't able to do big pkgs 
(Caolan)
+ EPM had a limitation on a certain file-size; but only an issue for
  a debug build in RPM form (Cloph)
+ even with the split, you couldn't reasonably build RPMs with 
debuginfo
  and EPM - it would fail.
+ lots more scope for improvement there (Michael)
+ hard to see what depends on what (Cloph)
+ Android Remote
 
* Crashtest update (Miklos)
+ new results: 
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/crashtest/24fb87501ef9d5aa715d572de7eb5efe49a0d9c3/
 (07-Oct-2014)
+ nothing super-exciting
+ xlsx issues seem lower with threading fix.
+ some new writer redline asserts; but not really crashers
+ hitting the new assertions.
+ recent assertion changes hard to nail (Caolan)
+ PDF ones fell from 15 to 5, and database 7 to nothing
+ unclear why - is the VM the same etc. ?
+ Yes (Miklos)
+ perhaps some intermittency; a big improvement since Miklos
  started building them.
+ are the old traces reproducible (Michael)
+ all the old data is still there (Miklos)
+ some of the PDF issues were hard to reproduce anyway,
  some PDF export timeout (?) - a race condition ?
+ perhaps load on machine dropped ? (Michael)
 
* Hackfests
+ Seattle 'Libre-Fest' (Robinson)
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Events/2014/Seattle_LibreFest
+ October 26, 2014
+ scope / focus issues are broadened & fixed.
AI: + get BZ migration roadmap done for then (Bjoern)
+ Toulouse Hackfest (Arnaud)
+ Confirmed for Nov. 15-16th
+ more details: 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Toulouse2014
+ budget reserved (Eur 2k) - poke Bjoern.
+ Munich hack-fest (Jan-Marek):
http://www.it-muenchen-blog.de/2014/07/bug-squashing-party-2014/
+ jmux (IRC) can add you if you don't want to create an account
+ will have a BSP come-together; if someone says they're coming
  just show up etc.
   + November 21st-23rd, 2014
   https://wiki.debian.org/BSP/2014/11/de/Munich
   + we should drop by with 2 or 3 developers, if possible
 
* UX Update (Kendy)
+ had an amusing issue around table toolbar button behavior
+ a monster thread; encouraged Cor into the design call
+ cleared the situation up.
+ no way to measure what is good for users
+ so hacked up dumping the amount of clicked buttons in toolbars
+ talking to Samuel - wrt. looking at Mozilla code in this area.
   + 
http://blog.mozilla.org/metrics/2011/08/25/do-90-of-people-not-use-ctrlf/
   + https://testpilot.mozillalabs.com/
+ hope to re-use the server side.
+ as of now - dump it into the user profile & mail it.
+ connect it to the infobar etc. (?)
+ getting people on the call was great.
   + huge thread wouldn't need to be so huge with better
 communication
+ 8x people on the call vs. 4x last week
   + some good things, and Heiko colleague of Bjoern from
 User-Prompt there too.
+ #libreoffice-design IRC chat is live now.
+ i

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Spellchecking on pre-release

2014-10-09 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Jay Philips  wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Not sure how relevant this is, but i saw this on twitter.
>
> well dang, libreoffice's previously-latest nightly pre-release doesn't
> properly spellcheck. It thinks kolandar = correct spelling 4 calendar
> < https://twitter.com/KewlH4ck3r/status/519970072002297856 >

Related bug report?  Perhaps something like
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=84468


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QA Engineer - The Document Foundation
LibreOffice Community Outreach Herald
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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.3.3 rc1 test builds available

2014-10-09 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi *,

for the upcoming new version 4.3.3 the builds for RC1 are now
available on pre-releases. (Some helppacks for windows still uploading)

It is a build in release-configuration, meaning that it will update a
previous version of LibreOffice on Windows.
Linux and Mac users can install alongside LibreOffice 4.2

See

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/4.3#4.3.3_release

for the complete schedule (there's one additionally rc planned).

Grab the builds from here here:

 http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/

The list of fixed bugs relative to 4.3.2 final (rc2) is here:

http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/src/bugs-libreoffice-4-3-3-release-4.3.3.1-buildfix1.log

So playing with the areas touched there also greatly appreciated  -
and validation that those bugs are really fixed.

Thanks a lot for your help,

Christian
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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANNOUNCE] Branch libreoffice-4-3-3 and Tag libreoffice-4.3.3.1-buildfix1 created

2014-10-09 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi all,

The tag libreoffice-4.3.3.1-buildfix1 (AKA 4.3.3 RC1) and the corresponding
branch libreoffice-4-3-3 have been created.
The branch will be used for fine tuning of the 4.3.3 release. (there
is one additional RC planned)

The following rules apply:

+ preferably just translation or blocker fixes
+ only cherry-picking from libreoffice-4-3 branch
+ 2 additional reviews needed; 2nd reviewer pushes
+ no regular merges back to anything

The 'libreoffice-4-3' branch is still active and will be used for the
4.3.4 bugfix release. Please read more at
   http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/4.3#4.3.3_release
   http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Branches
   http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Release_Criteria

Now, if you want to switch your clone to the branch, please do:

./g pull -r
./g checkout -b libreoffice-4-3-3 origin/libreoffice-4-3-3

To checkout the tag, use

./g fetch --tags
./g checkout -b tag-libreoffice-4.3.3.1-buildfix1 libreoffice-4.3.3.1-buildfix1

Hopefully it will work for you :-)  Most probably, you will also want to
do (if you haven't done it yet):

git config --global push.default tracking

When you do git push with this, git will push only the branch you are
on; e.g. libreoffice-4-3-3 when you have switched to it.  This will
save you some git shouting at you.

Linux distro packages might find source tarballs at
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/src/
They will soon be available from the official page together with the builds.

Attached is the list of changes against 4.3.2 RC2 (4.3.2 final)

Happy hacking,
Christian
+ core
+ 1~ instead of ~1 and 10~ instead of 1~0 (fdo#84757) [Caolán McNamara]
+ : Export to PDF with footnotes in tables crash (fdo#84283) [Julien Nabet]
+ : Wrong CRC Costa Rica currency symbol (fdo#84260) [Julien Nabet]
+ add GetAddressConvention to RefButton (fdo#83848) [Laurent Balland-Poirier]
+ add missing legacyOnly currency, (fdo#84260) [Eike Rathke]
+ add stub locale data for Catalan (Valencian) (fdo#83292) [Andras Timar]
+ added missing media extensions (fdo#82994) [Daniel Sikeler]
+ added some more audio formats (fdo#82994) [Daniel Sikeler]
+ allow pasting into input fields (fdo#76565) [Jan-Marek Glogowski]
+ avoid accessing 1 character after a string (fdo#83141) [Matthew J. Francis]
+ avoid use of ref. to possibly deleted object [David Tardon]
+ be sure to update the sheet index when moving the sort range. (fdo#84009) [Kohei Yoshida]
+ branch libreoffice-4-3-3 [Christian Lohmaier]
+ bump product version to 4.3.3.0.0+ [Robinson Tryon]
+ bump product version to 4.3.3.1 [Christian Lohmaier]
+ calc is not accessible to screen readers if sheet is modified [a11y] (fdo#81264) [Niklas Johansson]
+ changed filterlabel of .ac3-files (fdo#82994) [Daniel Sikeler]
+ crash after 3rd call to ApplicationScriptLibraryContainer (fdo#81635, fdo#79301, fdo#66706, fdo#70607) [Caolán McNamara]
+ crash in DomainMapper_Impl::CloseFieldCommand (fdo#79130) [Caolán McNamara]
+ crash in EnhancedCustomShapeTypeNames::Get (fdo#79131) [Caolán McNamara]
+ crash in oox::drawingml::LayoutNode::setupShape (fdo#79129) [Caolán McNamara]
+ crash on adding new macro library (fdo#81039) [Caolán McNamara]
+ css.office.Quickstart should be single-instance service. (fdo#80927) [Matúš Kukan]
+ css::uno::Reference::query does not have side effects [Stephan Bergmann]
+ disable sdremote by default, and improve flow control. [Michael Meeks]
+ display data description in pivot table. (bnc#592918) [Kohei Yoshida]
+ do not terminate desktop from a Timer [Stephan Bergmann]
+ don't assign NULL to boost::shared_ptr [Jan-Marek Glogowski]
+ don't crash on loading specific .docx (fdo#66496) [Caolán McNamara]
+ don't double destroy the HASH when PDF signing. (fdo#66701) [Michael Meeks]
+ don't even attempt to unload libqstart_gtklo.so again (i#101245) [Stephan Bergmann]
+ dos2unix on SSE2 patch files [Andras Timar]
+ empty/Not empty doesn't work in columns with date format (fdo#65281) [David Ostrovsky]
+ ensure that the row position is below MAXROW. (fdo#83764) [Kohei Yoshida]
+ error C2216: 'override' cannot be used with 'inline' [Andras Timar]
+ error C2782: template parameter '_Ty' is ambiguous [Miklos Vajna]
+ file crashed while saving. (fdo#82895, fdo#78907) [PriyankaGaikwad]
+ fix copy&paste of conditional format between sheets [Markus Mohrhard]
+ fix input field tab handling [Jan-Marek Glogowski]
+ fix ODF import of style:footer-first (fdo#79269) [Michael Stahl]
+ fix tarball.rebuild on windows [Zolnai Tamás]
+ fix unpacking of additional tarballs (fdo#82144) [David Tardon]
+ fix Windows build again [Andras Timar]
+ fix/improve handling of mso-position-(horizontal|vertical)(-relative) [Luboš Luňák]
+ handle docx's w:anchor layoutInCell attribute (bnc#891663) [

[Libreoffice-qa] Spellchecking on pre-release

2014-10-09 Thread Jay Philips
Hi All,

Not sure how relevant this is, but i saw this on twitter.

well dang, libreoffice's previously-latest nightly pre-release doesn't
properly spellcheck. It thinks kolandar = correct spelling 4 calendar
< https://twitter.com/KewlH4ck3r/status/519970072002297856 >

-- 
Regards,
Jay Philips
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