Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2014-12-24 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
Hi,

On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 10:31:35PM +0100, Cor Nouws wrote:
 One thing that may be handled too: when confirming also check if it
 worked before (regression or not) and such.

True. In the end a fully triaged (aka a bug that a QA guys can do nothing more
about and that only can be moved forward by a developer) is either:

1/ a regression, which has been bibisected
2/ a non-regression, missing feature (enhancement)
3/ a non-regression, bug introduced with new feature from the start

We have proper tags to identify the first two of the above, but nothing to tag
the last group. If we _had_ a whiteboard status for number three too, we could
query for confirmed bugs that are:

- not a bibisected regression
- not an enhancement request
- not marked as a bug introduced with a new feature from the start

and have a list of confirmed bugs that QA can still help about. As such Id
suggest maybe a whiteboard status newfeaturebug for this. Opinions?

Best,

Bjoern

P.S.: Note there is some wiggle room in distingushing group 2/ and 3/. IMHO if
a developer of a feature says its group 2/ (aka that it was not in the planned
scope of the new feature) that should be accepted in general (and possibly also
documented that way).
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2014-12-24 Thread Cor Nouws
Bjoern Michaelsen wrote on 24-12-14 11:20:
 True. In the end a fully triaged (aka a bug that a QA guys can do nothing more
 about and that only can be moved forward by a developer) is either:
 
[...]

And confirming without checking if the bug is in one of the categories
makes working with reported issues / BugZilla harder



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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2014-12-24 Thread Cor Nouws
Bjoern Michaelsen wrote on 24-12-14 11:20:
 and have a list of confirmed bugs that QA can still help about. As such Id
 suggest maybe a whiteboard status newfeaturebug for this. Opinions?

Looks good.
Thanks,
Cor

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2014-12-24 Thread Robert Großkopf
Hi Bjoern,

 
 True. In the end a fully triaged (aka a bug that a QA guys can do nothing more
 about and that only can be moved forward by a developer) is either:
 
 1/ a regression, which has been bibisected
 2/ a non-regression, missing feature (enhancement)
 3/ a non-regression, bug introduced with new feature from the start

How would you call a bug inherited from OOo?

Regards

Robert
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2014-12-24 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 12:13:57PM +0100, Robert Großkopf wrote:
 Hi Bjoern,
 
  
  True. In the end a fully triaged (aka a bug that a QA guys can do nothing 
  more
  about and that only can be moved forward by a developer) is either:
  
  1/ a regression, which has been bibisected
  2/ a non-regression, missing feature (enhancement)
  3/ a non-regression, bug introduced with new feature from the start
 
 How would you call a bug inherited from OOo?

4/ Inherited from OOo ;)

Forgot that one, but that is also trivially queryable, so doesnt change the
conclusion we only need a way to tag bugs in group 3.

Best,

Bjoern


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