Re: [Libreoffice-qa] DLP libs in bugzilla

2017-10-05 Thread David Tardon 
Hi,

On Thu, Oct 05, 2017 at 05:20:27PM +0200, Xisco Fauli wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Ok, I'll work on it. I've just created a new ticket in redmine:
> https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/2381

Thanks. The full list is libabw, libcdr, libetonyek, libfreehand,
libmspub, libpagemaker, libvisio. Then there are two new libs that don't
have any bugzilla entry yet: libqxp and libzmf.

And I would also like to have components for libs that are hosted
elsewhere (as bugs for them are reported in TDF bugzilla anyway):
libe-book, libstaroffce, libmwaw, libwpd, libwpg, libwps.

D.
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] DLP libs in bugzilla

2017-10-05 Thread Xisco Fauli 
Hello,

Ok, I'll work on it. I've just created a new ticket in redmine:
https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/2381

Regards


El 05/10/17 a les 17:09, David Tardon ha escrit:
> Hello,
>
> Ever since we moved to TDF bugzilla, the DLP libs (libcdr, libvisio,
> etc..) have existed as separate products. In addition to them, there is
> also a catch-all 'Document Liberation Project' product. This layout was
> questioned in the past: various people were suggesting that the libs
> should be just components of the DLP product (e.g.,
> https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/2015-February/008494.html).
> I opposed this in the past, but I've changed my mind after a recent
> discussion with Jay.
>
> So, if there's any supporter of this move with Bugzilla superpowers
> (Cloph? Xisco?), please go ahead and do it...
>
> D.
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[Libreoffice-qa] DLP libs in bugzilla

2017-10-05 Thread David Tardon 
Hello,

Ever since we moved to TDF bugzilla, the DLP libs (libcdr, libvisio,
etc..) have existed as separate products. In addition to them, there is
also a catch-all 'Document Liberation Project' product. This layout was
questioned in the past: various people were suggesting that the libs
should be just components of the DLP product (e.g.,
https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/2015-February/008494.html).
I opposed this in the past, but I've changed my mind after a recent
discussion with Jay.

So, if there's any supporter of this move with Bugzilla superpowers
(Cloph? Xisco?), please go ahead and do it...

D.
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[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2017-10-05 Thread Michael Meeks 
* Present:
+ Thorsten, Caolan, Heiko, Miklos, Kendy, Olivier, Xisco, Michael M, 
Stephan, Sophie,
  Christian, Eike, Jan-Marek

* Completed Action Items:
+ bisect and analyze bug#112558 (Xisco)
[ Bisected - it points to the Khaled patch: 
34d7602954d4483b3bc9db700e7df2c15348947a
  affects Calc - and reproducible onlt with some fonts,
  https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=112558 ]

* Pending Action Items:
+ research the best way to build HTML help / documentation / for 6.0 
(Olivier)
[ still working on this, lets discuss next week. ]
+ fix scripts producing junk numbers for crash testing (7 and 7) (Shinnok)
[ pending – making the scripts work again. ]
+ fwd build details on Mac / CVE build / test failure to the list (Shinnok)
[ still working on this, hope to have it done today ]
+ switch default to x86_64 / Windows for testing & pre-releases of 6.0 
(Cloph)

* Release Engineering update (Christian)
+ 5.4.2 RC2 status
+ on mirrors as final, to be announced in the next minutes
+ release-note 
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108580 ?
+ added it to the release-notes (Thorsten)
+ no good way to solve this (apparently) - MS don't know either
+ if its missing LibreOffice won't run
+ can ship the DLLs in the tree, or ask the user to install a MS
  re-distributable.
 + VS 2015 re-distributables not everywhere -> the problem.
 + we used to ship them (Michael)
 + was a nicer merge-module in the past (Thorsten)
 + VS 2015 upgrade problem - beggars belief...
=> cheapiest / easiest - is to bundle the DLLs with the build.
AI: + ship the DLLs with the installer (Cloph)
+ sad, but should be easy to do.
+ which systems are lacking this DLL ? (Michael S)
+ de-active updates, and not instal updates or ? ...
+ if not installed, not updated, but not there with a blank 
windows
+ might / usually comes pre-loaded with other software.
+ pristine Win 10 - had this issue.
+ thought the idea of the split here was to make it work 
automatically
+ 5.3.7 RC1 status
+ built and up-loaded to testing, ready for early-testing announce.
+ 5.3.7 RC2 - 1 week after conference.
+ 6.0 Alpha1
+ 1 week after the conference
+ 6 week gap from 6.0.0 to 6.0.1 ?
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/6.0
+ ideal to have 3-4 week after release instead;
=> adjust to 3 weeks; Christian to do something sensible.
+ Android
+ Online

* Documentation (Olivier)
+ UX team advising on New Help usability / layout (Yousuf)
   + https://goo.gl/qrPQyW
   + Several easyhacks published (Olivier)
   + Brazilians students contributing (Gabriel, Nigel)
+ Documentation team progressing in updating book (Dave, Olivier)
   + going well
+ Published wiki page for code snippets of help files (XHP)
+ Brazilian community getting interest in writing help page contents
 + e.g. pivot charts, XML streams, Presenter Console, Calc Forms

* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
253(253) (topicUI) bugs open, 396(396) (needsUXEval) needs to be 
evaluated by the UXteam
+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months   
 added  6(3) 18(-1)31(1)  116(-5)  
 commented 37(13)   206(-6)   491(-22)   2534(-139)
   removed  0(-2) 5(1)  7(1)   30(-3)  
  resolved  3(-1)15(-2)70(3)  269(-1)  
+ top 10 contributors:
  Tietze, Heiko made 100 changes in 1 month, and 1271 changes in 1 year
  Philips, Yousuf made 61 changes in 1 month, and 1151 changes in 1 year
  Foote, V Stuart made 55 changes in 1 month, and 472 changes in 1 year
  Thomas Lendo made 44 changes in 1 month, and 462 changes in 1 year
  Faulí Tarazona, Xisco made 42 changes in 1 month, and 370 changes in 
1 year
  Buovjaga made 26 changes in 1 month, and 288 changes in 1 year
  Ionita, Teodor-Mircea made 14 changes in 1 month, and 18 changes in 1 
year
  Kara, Muhammet made 11 changes in 1 month, and 19 changes in 1 year
  *UNKNOWN* made 11 changes in 1 month, and 11 changes in 1 year
  *UNKNOWN* made 10 changes in 1 month, and 11 changes in 1 year
  ^^^ - scripting bug for Shinnok

+ Again not enough people in the weekly meeting to make decisions
+ Mascot voting continues:
+ 
https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/2017/09/28/libreoffice-mascot/
+ 63 proposals for thumbs up/down.
+ 25k participants of that 10k voted on all

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] DirectWrite deficienies holding open BZ issues

2017-10-05 Thread Xisco Fauli 
Hello V Stuart,

I thought it would be best to keep them open just in case there is a
plan to implement it in a short period of time, but as you said, it's
true it might take longer than expected.

Anyway, today we have the esc meeting, let me ask it there before we
take any action.

I'll keep you updated.

Regards


El 04/10/17 a les 23:50, V Stuart Foote ha escrit:
> @Xisco, *
>
> Notice we'd reverted a number of closings for BZ issues that are cleared by
> Khaled's tweak for  tdf#112486
>   
>
> "...optionally not using GDI when not using OpenGL (previously we always
> used GDI when OpenGL was used). I think it was wishful thinking of my
> part to think the non-GDI code path is usable"
>
> So, that has been done. And we've now restored Windows GDI font rendering
> functionality for the final 5.3.7 build, and have 5.4.3 and 6.0.0 covered.
>
> Why would we hold open all those performance and rendering issues caused by
> use of  the "non-GDI" code path? We should close them to reduce the noise.
>
> Yes going forward with either more "correctly" refactoring our  DirectWrite
> Direct2D implementation or moving to FreeType everywhere,  if PDF output on
> Windows can be solved, there is work on Windows font rendering to be done
> but it is not tied to status of these BZ issues.
>
> Behavior of these now resolved bugs should be checked against that rendering
> rework, obviously.  But the issues should not be held open awaiting work
> that may be a long time in development.
>
>
>
>
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