[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2020-Jun-10

2020-06-10 Thread Heiko Tietze
Present: Rizal, Heiko
Comments: Eike, Thomas, Gerhard, Regina, Maxim

Tickets/Topic

 * Feature request: Insert current date dialog
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132995
   + similar request in tdf#46448 (Eike, Thomas)
   => make it a duplicate

 * Endnote Heading for HTML and Epub exports
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133577
   + always adding a header before endnotes? tdf#89736
   => automatically insert a heading before the first endnote if none has been 
added 
  before (should allow to delete this heading and not add it always back); 
  optional perhaps but on by default

 * Indexes: Allow user to rearrange sub-entries in non-alphabetical order
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133523
   + RFE is not flexible; a lot of question marks (Thomas)
   => comment about the missing flexible approach but keep ticket open

 * Hide surrounding border frame at sidebar
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133690
   + LibO and LOOL are different, not supporting the request (Gerhard)
   + issue very much related to the actual theme; not a big deal on KDE/gtk3 
(Heiko)
   + Online has a dedicated button to collapse the sidebar while LibO "needs" 
the left 
 panel with the button (Rizal)
   + looks better in WPS and Freeoffice, admitted, but we introduced a button 
on the 
 left panel that can be used to collapse the sidebar; replacing it by a 
toolbar 
 button is not so simple unless we go with special solutions such as 
Notebookbars
   => resolve as WF

 * Area properties don't match color handling the outline shape receives
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132880
   + use styles (Regina, Maxim)
   + unclear what color is applied as the last used is not taken into the newly 
created
 object (neither for DF nor with styles) (Maxim)
   + any disadvantag of taking the last used color/gradient etc. for creation?
 + inkscape does so (Rizal)
   => keep open with suggestion to use last fill style

 * UI: RESET (to default) button for search and replace dialog
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133391
   + really add another button?
   => no objection, other dialogs have a Reset button on the footer so let's do 
it



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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Forced Updates? WTF?

2020-06-10 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Hi Christoph,

Christoph Schäfer wrote:
> [LibreOffice auto-updated from 6.3 to 6.4 on Windows 10]
>
> I originally installed LO via the MSI installers from the TDF site,
> and I have no other "helpful software" regarding updates on my
> computers.
>
Then it's not possible the source of the problem is
LibreOffice. There's simply no code that would download a version &
force an update (without quite a bit of user interaction), in the
versions distributed from libreoffice.org.

There's a theoretical possibility, if instead you've installed the
Vanilla version from the Windows Store - that one got upgraded from
6.3 to 6.4, since 6.3 is now end of life. But your description would
not match that either, as that package does not ask for a reboot.

If you've further input (screenshots, exact versions, MSIs you've
used), can we please move this conversation to the QA list (in Cc), as
it's much better placed there (and if it's a real problem, we'd need a
bugreport filed anyway).

All the best,

-- Thorsten


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