Re: [Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting minutes: 2022-04-21

2022-04-21 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Hi *,

Miklos Vajna wrote:
> * ucb: webdav-curl: put user name from config into LOCK request (Michael S)
>   + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/133143
>   + benefit: if some other user edits a file on a webdav share, then publish 
> the name of the editing user
>   + but this sends user data, might disturb some
>   + idea: respect the setting that decides if user data is written to 
> documents
> + currently controls ODF's meta.xml
> + reuse this
>
Sorry, had quite a bad jitsi connection today, so as said comment via
email - I agree with the rationale that putting the name into the lock
file is good UX. There's a small corner case where there would be
additional information disclosure, compared to document meta data: if
the document is encrypted.

Cheers,

-- Thorsten


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[Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting minutes: 2022-04-21

2022-04-21 Thread Miklos Vajna

* Present:
+ Heiko, Cloph, Hossein, Ilmari, Michael W, Michael S, Stephan, Miklos, 
Lubos, Thorsten, Gabriel, Olivier, Sophie, Eike, Kendy

* Completed Action Items:
+ None

* Pending Action Items:
+ None

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ 7.4 status: feature freeze in June
+ 7.3 status: 7.3.3 rc2 in 1 week
+ 7.2 status: 7.2.7 rc1 is now tagged
+ Remotes: Android, iOS
  + may cut a new release here
+ Android viewer
+ Windows/arm: configured another box to do tinderbox builds (Cloph)
  + in progress

* Documentation (Olivier)
+ New Help
+ fixes (buovjaga)
+ Helpcontents2
+ Housekeeping (buovjaga, S. Chaiklin, A. Gelmini)
+ Guides
+ Work in progess
+ Google Seasons of Docs
+ Not retained for this year. Trying next year.

+ Bugzilla Documentation statistics
221(221) bugs open
+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week1 month   3 months   12 months
   created  6(-30)   58(0) 115(-2) 333(0)
 commented 22(-1)60(-15)   301(-23)   1458(0)
  resolved  1(-25)   35(-1) 67(-2) 230(-3)
+ top 10 contributors:
  Olivier Hallot made 72 changes in 1 month, and 555 changes in 1 year
  Seth Chaiklin made 48 changes in 1 month, and 92 changes in 1 year
  Dieter made 16 changes in 1 month, and 99 changes in 1 year
  Ilmari Lauhakangas made 10 changes in 1 month, and 119 changes in 1 
year
  Alain Romedenne made 8 changes in 1 month, and 33 changes in 1 year
  Nabet, Julien made 7 changes in 1 month, and 73 changes in 1 year
  Henschel, Regina made 5 changes in 1 month, and 23 changes in 1 year
  Heiko Tietze made 4 changes in 1 month, and 85 changes in 1 year
  Telesto made 4 changes in 1 month, and 24 changes in 1 year
  Xisco Fauli made 4 changes in 1 month, and 83 changes in 1 year

* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
270(270) (topicUI) bugs open, 94(94) (needsUXEval) needs to be 
evaluated by the UXteam
+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week1 month   3 months   12 months
 added 11(2)  28(4) 39(3)   65(4)
 commented 72(-19)   245(27)   719(42)2652(13)
   removed  2(0)   7(2) 17(1)   38(2)
  resolved  4(-4) 24(-4)98(-5) 388(-5)
+ top 10 contributors:
  Heiko Tietze made 229 changes in 1 month, and 1976 changes in 1 year
  Seth Chaiklin made 71 changes in 1 month, and 129 changes in 1 year
  Ilmari Lauhakangas made 49 changes in 1 month, and 262 changes in 1 
year
  Eyal Rozenberg made 32 changes in 1 month, and 117 changes in 1 year
  Dieter made 31 changes in 1 month, and 216 changes in 1 year
  Roman Kuznetsov made 28 changes in 1 month, and 217 changes in 1 year
  Telesto made 24 changes in 1 month, and 266 changes in 1 year
  Robert Großkopf made 13 changes in 1 month, and 28 changes in 1 year
  JO3EMC made 11 changes in 1 month, and 36 changes in 1 year
  *UNKNOWN* made 8 changes in 1 month, and 8 changes in 1 year
+ 9 new tickets since Apr/17
  [Bug 148702] In Arrow Styles tab of Line dialog, place Arrow Styles 
control
   first (before "title" control)
  [Bug 131760] Commands related to styles miscategorized in customization 
dialog
  [Bug 148673] Should the Bullet and Numbering toolbar also appear with 
unnumbered
   (chapter) headings?
  [Bug 148648] Need to make Insert cross-ref more accessible
  [Bug 148643] Feature Request: Categories of Fonts
  [Bug 148320] Explicit toggle for ToC/Index title
  [Bug 148629] The "Demote" command is always active in Draw (and Impress), 
but
   does not do anything on non-list paragraphs
  [Bug 148248] Autofilter menu item label "Text Color" is better to be "Font 
Color"
  [Bug 148597] FORMATTING request enhancement: create formatted Table of 
Figures
   using tabs before and after index

* Crash Testing (Caolan)
+ Missing Caolan
+ 10(+0) import failure, 3(+0) export failures
+ ??? coverity issues
+ Google / ossfuzz: ?? fuzzers active now

* Crash Reporting (Xisco)
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.2.6.2
 + (-36) 522 558 428 373 166 0
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.3.1.3
 + (-901) 986 1887 2139 1652 1345 810 0
   + https://crashreport.libreoffice.org/stats/version/7.3.2.2
 + (+730) 1664 934 0

   - mdds::flat_segment_tree is 30% of the crashes of 7.3.2
 - no repro yet, weird

* Mentoring/EasyHack update (Hossein)
  committer...   1 week 1 month 3 months12 months
  open  68(4)  138(6)  146(10)  148(10)
   reviews 270(-36)   1274(-94)   3680(-68)   12664(-42)
merged 225(-76)   1

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2022-Apr-21

2022-04-21 Thread Ilmari Lauhakangas

On 21.4.2022 16.38, Heiko Tietze wrote:

Present: Eyal, Heiko
Comments: Thomas, JO3EMC, Andreas, Regina, Mike

Tickets/Topics

  * Need ability to search only comments
    + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148463
    + Ability to pick-and-choose where to search
  + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148464
    + reasonable request but having this flexibility comes on cost of a 
cluttered

  dialog
    + feature would be needed for several entities such as Comments,
  Footnotes, Text...
    + solution a) is to list all entities similar to attributes and 
check it

  by default
    + solution b) would be to know where search was started from and 
allow to

  "[ ] Search only in %1"
    + solution c) is to start the search command with a parameter like
  .uno:Search?where="comment" and allow to restrict the search to 
this entity

  only
    + b) and c) clutter less, a) is more flexible (but requires a check
  all/none option)
    => comment


Was a duplicate and Heiko had already commented in 2017: 
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96474#c3


Ilmari


[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes from the UX/design meeting 2022-Apr-21

2022-04-21 Thread Heiko Tietze

Present: Eyal, Heiko
Comments: Thomas, JO3EMC, Andreas, Regina, Mike

Tickets/Topics

 * When merging cells, it is not good that 'Keep the contents of the
   hidden cell' is the default
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=147837
   + MSO can read hidden content from merged cells but when applied on MSO365
 it offers only to remove the content
   + no need to change (Roman)
   + hidden content may be a safety, security and privacy issue (JO3EMC)
   + warning/infobar on load (since at save time it's not possible) (Heiko)
 + probably too late (Eyal)
   + current default is convenient (Eyal)
 + maybe the first option, saving into one cell, is the better default
   + better solution might be to show an indicator for hidden content similar
 to the comments (Eyal, Heiko)
   => comment

 * Need ability to search only comments
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148463
   + Ability to pick-and-choose where to search
 + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148464
   + reasonable request but having this flexibility comes on cost of a cluttered
 dialog
   + feature would be needed for several entities such as Comments,
 Footnotes, Text...
   + solution a) is to list all entities similar to attributes and check it
 by default
   + solution b) would be to know where search was started from and allow to
 "[ ] Search only in %1"
   + solution c) is to start the search command with a parameter like
 .uno:Search?where="comment" and allow to restrict the search to this entity
 only
   + b) and c) clutter less, a) is more flexible (but requires a check
 all/none option)
   => comment

 * Give alert for unsaved when sending document in email
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148469
   + turn the logic and ask to save first (Heiko)
   + rather prompt for saving first (even when not needed) but
 with the option to send anyway without saving (Thomas)
   => go for it

 * Poor nomenclature for Manual Break
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148513
   + prefer a simple solution, see comment 8 (Heiko)
   + propose more verbose solution, comment 14 (Seth)
   + consider LTR/RTL and better use Start/End (Eyal)
   + adding a preview thumbnail should be simple (Heiko)
 + good image might be a challenge (Eyal)
   => comment

 * Rework Sparklines's context menus
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148465
   + for cells w/o sparklines, do not list sparkline commands at all (Heiko)
 or at least have only Insert Sparkline at the root level (Eyal)
   + in case of context being a sparkline it's not needed to Insert
 (but to Edit)
   + ideally we show/enable Ungroup only if we have a group and
 vice versa (Eyal)
   + consider the Notebookbars (Andreas)
   => do it

 * Rename "Left page border" and "right page border"...
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148593
 * Rename "page text area top" and "page text area bottom"...
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148591
   + "border" is wrong (Mike)
   + must not use "Margin" nor "Border", maybe "Page region left of
 page content area" (Regina)
   + rework the dialog "from ground", actually just move the "to:"
 dropdown at the second position to make it a sentence (Eyal)
 + if possible, the offset should be always available (and "From Left"
   could be removed then)
   + we have a great preview showing exactly what happens (Heiko)
   => no better proposal though


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