[Libreoffice-qa] ESC meeting minutes: 2023-06-29

2023-06-29 Thread Stephan Bergmann

* Present:
+ Affiliated with TDF: Florian Effenberger, Mike Saunders, Juan 
Jose Gonzales,  Stephane Guillou, Xisco Fauli, Hossein Nourikhah, 
Christian Lohmaier, Michael Weghorn (City of Munich until 2023-06-30), 
Stephan Ficht, Olivier Hallot, Heiko Tietze, Sophie Gautier, Ilmari 
Lauhakangas

+ Affiliated with Hideas: Italo Vignoli
+ Affiliated with Collabora: Caolan McNamara
+ Affiliated with allotropia: Thorsten Behrens
+ Affiliated with Red Hat: Stephan Bergmann
+ Unaffiliated: Regina Henschel

* Completed Action Items:

* Pending Action Items:

* ESC budget voting (Ilmari)
* Preparations
* blogpost with call for proposals was published with more than 15
days deadline
* wiki page was available for everyone to edit
* ESC minutes were shared publicly and sent to mailing lists
* today's call was announced publicly
* ranking spreadsheet was always public in an up to date version
* updated ESC tendering process draft:
  https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/ysttSYyRnyM6QYF

* Pending items
* transparency section of the website must be in place before
tendering starts, Italo is working on it
* blogpost with ranking spreadsheet must be published as soon 
as that

one is finalized

* Proposals
* No paid external expert was requested.
* No urgency request was made.
* Do all proposals on today's list have a sufficient 
description and

cost estimate? Yes.
* Have all cost estimates been re-evaluated by only non-conflicted
members of the ESC? Yes.

* Ranking
* ALL proposals must be ranked.
* Proposal by a committee that has a majority of non-Conflicted 
members.

* Decision then by CONSENSUS of only the non-Conflicted members.
* Failing that, majority VOTE by only non-Conflicted members.

* Spreadsheet with comments from TDF staff:
https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/i9CSEs2gjFisc2y

* Budget pages for reference:
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Budget2020
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Budget2021
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Budget2022
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Budget2023

* Propose to drop it
+ GraphicFilter clean-up (2020)
  + Done by Tomaž (thanks!)
+ Text runs of RTL scripts (e.g. Arabic, Hebrew, Persian)
from imported PDF are reversed, PDFIProcessor::mirrorString not 
behaving (2022)

  + Fixed by Kevin Suo (thanks!)
+ UNO API changes subscription/feedback channel (2022)
  + TDF infra team will be able to implement this
+ Regular scan-build reports like we do with CppCheck (2022)
  + Cloph can do it, just hook up existing cppcheck as jenkins job
https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/cppcheck_reports/master/
+ Multi-color gradient (2022)
  + allotropia already working on this / done for 7.6
+ Fix accessibility issues (2022)
  + Description too vague, now TDF has hired an accessibility 
developer

+ Automated test tools for finding text rendering defects
  + Khaled is already working on it
+ Improve the experience of the CPP SDK
  + Hossein working on it

* Propose to put it on hold for now
+ Bitmaps in vcl: Use a native format/depth (2022)
  + Lacked time to estimate
+ Table Styles improvements (2022)
  + Lacked time to estimate
+ Unify Writer and Draw Images (2022)
  + Lacked time to estimate
+ Decouple master slide and layouts (2022)
  + Lacked time to estimate
+ Missing ODF Features: Concentric gradient fill of 
custom-shapes (2022)

  + Lacked time to estimate
+ Bridge the gap between drawinglayer and VCL (2022)
  + Lacked time to estimate
+ Rolling Release: Finish MAR-based autoupdater for Windows (2021)
  + Very large size and large maintenance cost for infra. 
Partially addressed with the app stores.

+ Stabilize cross-page table layouting (2022)
  + The selection of bugs seems random
+ XLSX Aggressive Competitors tracker: table styles (ranked 6 
in Feb 2023)

  + has a dependency which needs to be completed first
+ Power optimization research (ranked 43 in Feb 2023)
  + We are working with KDE regarding the Blue Angel certificate

* Reviewed items to be voted on
+ Cleanup & further improve ODF conformance (2021)
+ Convert Impress slideshow to drawinglayer primitives (2021)
+ Writer tables: support cell margins (next to cell padding) (2021)
+ Font subsetter for font embedding (2022)
+ XLSX Aggressive Competitors tracker: gridlines for 3d line 
charts (2022)

+ Look-ahead styleref field for Writer 

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] ESC budget ranking final approval: 2023-06-29 16:00 CEST

2023-06-29 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Hi y'all,

Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote:
> some tweaks were still needed to the ranking, apologies for the hassle.
> Let's decide on the final ranking in the ESC meeting tomorrow:
> 
> https://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/esc
> 
Quick heads-up: I've added a link to the latest draft of the ESC
tendering process document to the pad (under preparations).

Cheers,

-- Thorsten


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