Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-documentation] Could Anyone Put a Netbook to Use
Hi :) I would love one but i think Hazel, Jean, Peter and many others in here deserve them a LOT more than me! Regards from Tom :) On 6 March 2015 at 15:14, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, We have two netbooks (Windows 8 but you could probably dual boot with Linux) that were bought for QA that are currently not being used. Just curious if anyone could put these to use. Preferably they would stick with QA but if someone outside of QA could use them, I'll talk to Florian to see what we can do. Note that one of them has a German keyboard layout. Email me directly if you could put it to use - let me know what you would use it for, and how much use you would put it to :) I just hate to see machines sitting around not being put to use. Best, Joel -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-marketing] Re: [libreoffice-website] [LibreOffice Bugzilla Migration] We're done! Please visit the new site to reset your password!
Hi :) A big +1 from me! I guess there might be teething problems but hopefully we can all be patient with those and just enjoy the advantages of the new system more and more :) Many thanks and regards from Tom :) On 25 January 2015 at 09:22, Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Hi, Robinson Tryon wrote on 2015-01-24 at 21:50: The migration was a great success. All of our bugs are now happily living at https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/ thanks a lot to everyone involved, especially Robinson, Cloph and Alex - great work, and happy to finally have BugZilla in our own infrastructure! Thanks for the extra work during the weekend, you rock! ;-) Florian -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: marketing+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-users] Updating Whiteboard/Keyword Wiki - Need Input
Hi :) I think make a sub-page called something like Further Details or Advanced or FAQ-QA or something like that and then take all that valuable work and dump it in their instead. Then people getting to the front page get the simple approach that assumes everything goes smoothly and can click through to the advanced help if they need it. Regards from Tom :) On 23 October 2013 02:46, Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I'm going to be updating the wiki for whiteboard and keyword to make it more legible. There has been talk about taking a minimilistic approach to the wiki, less formal, less rules (although we don't have rules, just guidelines), this vs. the comprehensive, answers any question someone might have approach. My question is, which is preferred? Should I strip the wiki to the minimum with very basic info or include the details needed where someone could technically use the wiki without additional input in a relatively cohesive way? Thanks all, Joel -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscribe@global.**libreoffice.orgusers%2bunsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/**get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-** unsubscribe/http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.**documentfoundation.org/** Netiquette http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.**libreoffice.org/global/users/http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-l10n] Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: [ANN] LibreOffice 4.0.5 RC2 available
Hi :) Ubuntu users can use the same resources as everyone else to get the full range of localisations. Their PPA's are an additional resource but Ubuntu Users (such as me) could go to the main LibreOffice website (as i do) to get all the latest stuff. I think there are even instructions somewhere although when i just had a quick look they weren't as obvious as i had hoped. Apparently most instructions still sy to install the desktop integration packages afterwards but those have now been cleverly pulled into the main install so you don't have to do that 2nd part anymore. It's just the help packages to get the in-built help and maybe the appropriate language pack. So, don't worry too much about the PPAs but if reasonably possible please get them to signpost people to the official LibreOffice website. Regards from Tom :) From: Mihkel Tõnnov mihh...@gmail.com To: LibreOffice libreoff...@lists.freedesktop.org; libreoffice-l10n l...@global.libreoffice.org; proje...@global.libreoffice.org; libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org; bjoern.michael...@canonical.com Sent: Friday, 23 August 2013, 12:49 Subject: [libreoffice-l10n] Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: [ANN] LibreOffice 4.0.5 RC2 available 2013/8/23 bjoern bjoern.michael...@canonical.com On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 05:02:01PM +0200, Thorsten Behrens wrote: The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA builds download page at http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/ and users of Ubuntu 13.04 (raring) find a build in the LibreOffice 4.0 ppa at: https://launchpad.net/~libreoffice/+archive/libreoffice-4-0?field.series_filter=raring Hi all, Is there any reason why these PPAs only contain localisations into a select few locales? Best regards, Mihkel -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-users] [LibreOffice-QA] CANCELED - Conference Call - February 8th, 2013
Hi :) I think you have all earned a break! Good work all! Regards from Tom :) From: Joel Madero jmadero@gmail.com To: us...@global.libreoffice.org us...@global.libreoffice.org; libreoffice-dev libreoff...@lists.freedesktop.org; Libreoffice-qa libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Sent: Thursday, 7 February 2013, 19:31 Subject: [libreoffice-users] [LibreOffice-QA] CANCELED - Conference Call - February 8th, 2013 Hi All, It seems like many of the QA team are unavailable for tomorrow's meeting which makes discussion much harder. If there is no objection (within the next few hours) the call tomorrow (February 8th) has been CANCELED in order to ensure that we have our full QA team handling the agenda. We will plan on having our next call at the regular scheduled day: February 22nd, 2013 @ 1400 UTC Assume that the call is CANCELED unless I send out another email :-D Best Regards, Joel -- *Joel Madero* LibreOffice QA Volunteer jmadero@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-marketing] Latest Hardware and OS
Hi :) No. At least i think the answer to that is no I think how many might is a moving target. At the moment those devices are probably not seen as good things to use to edit documents. Pi is more about learning programming and building bits of hardware. Android is more about just catching little snippets of information and looking up odd things before arriving at home or at the office. If you planned to work on documents on-the-move then you would probably use something larger than a netbook. LO could change all that. With a docking station http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Docking_station hand-held, mobile and just tiny devices could really start to take-over from desktops for certain usages. Also while on-the-move LO provides more options and more easily for minimising the UI so that screen's real estate could show more of a document while still having a useful menu or customised tool-bar. It'd be interesting to see if Android started becoming even more popular because it becomes an office in your pocket due to LO. Of course desktops still have a greater capacity to be more powerful, greater local storage and easier to tinker with, fix and upgrade but people are all excited about moving to mobile devices. LO has an opportunity to be ahead of the game a bit. especially with all the good work that has gone into stream-lining the program over the last couple of years. Regards from Tom :) From: Rainer Bielefeld libreoff...@bielefeldundbuss.de To: libreoff...@bielefeldundbuss.de Cc: libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org; market...@global.libreoffice.org; LibreOffice libreoff...@lists.freedesktop.org Sent: Monday, 24 December 2012, 7:03 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Latest Hardware and OS Hi, I agree with the arguments here. My conclusion: if there is a relevant Number of early adopters, who might find the Feedback item in Help menu, we should have something in BSA finding the appropriate Hardware-OS combination (may be with additional hint in comment). This combination(s) also should be mentioned on https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport_Details. My question: do we know how many users might use LibO on Android / Raspberry Pi? CU Rainer -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to marketing+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/marketing/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Cloud-space? Re: [libreoffice-users] Use of MD5 and other HASH values of LibO package downloads and alternate distribution DVD uploads
Hi :) The workflow for the NA DVD Project involves 1. downloading the installer files from the LO or TDF servers 2. bundling it with some documentation, Extensions and 3rd party programs 3. re-uploading the resulting .iso through a domestic line that takes somewhere between 4-8hours (assuming it goes smoothly and the line doesn't drop-out). The 'broadband' line is in a building that is of an age that prohibits upgrading the line. A few people looked into 3rd party Cloud space to store and work on the files but the options seemed inflexible and quite expensive. The amount of space required only occasionally tips over the amount the team could get for free without using fairly dubious 3rd party space. A lot of the space is for files that already exist on TDF and LO servers. Also the team wasn't completely confident about how much to trust or how to use any strange tools available on 3rd party Cloud-space. There must be some easier way of doing this without having to learn tons of advanced new stuff! Regards from Tom :) From: V Stuart Foote vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu To: us...@global.libreoffice.org; libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Sent: Sunday, 21 October 2012, 19:33 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Use of MD5 and other HASH values of LibO package downloads and alternate distribution DVD uploads Tim, We applaud the work you've been doing on the English-NA-DVD, but since you've taken on that responsibility its cradle to grave handling also requires that you validate receipt of the initial ISO image upload to the Document Foundation Mirrors. TDF will take your upload of bundled components and post it exactly as they receive it. Followed by TDF implemented MirrorBrain metadata service that calculates the initial HASH values (MD5, SHA-1, SHA-256 and BitTorrent) and publishes the details for use on the download mirrors. Point is, they won't normally test that they have a good upload from your build system--that responsibility is yours. And to add to your effort, to be technically correct you should probably verify the HASH value of each component installer you download for use in the compilation--found most conveniently at the http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/ where you probably want the stable/ tree (and can check on your box/ DVD distro). Navigate down into the build you are compiling and the OS. On the page listing the language specific installers each file will have a corresponding MirriorBrain provisioned link labeled Details that has full metadata of just that file including the HASH values. Check each package you will bundle against those values so you know you have a clean download. You probably don't want to be responsible for distributing a corrupt install package that was incompletely downloaded as you build the DVD. Then, once compiled into your English-NA-DVD .iso image, you need to calculate a HASH value of the ISO being uploaded. You need this to compare what you send against what the transfer server receives. After upload, or probably once published to the TDF mirror, compare the HASH value(s) the MirrorBrain published metadata. When uploading or downloading I generally will calculate and compare against the first few digits of MD5 and SHA256 HASH values As an example, since you are on a Linux, you have the terminal window command line use of these commands: md5sum LO-3.5.6_English-NA-DVD_all-platforms_multi-lang_plus-extras_v2.iso sha1sum LO-3.5.6_English-NA-DVD_all-platforms_multi-lang_plus-extras_v2.iso sha256sum LO-3.5.6_English-NA-DVD_all-platforms_multi-lang_plus-extras_v2.iso Folks on Windows don't have a Microsoft provided digest tool--command line or GUI. But there are many to be found. Because of the range of digest HASH types I have to deal with I prefer a digest tool integrated with the Windows shell and widely use the freeware Hash CRC tool published in the fileTweak utilizes of Febooti. Available here: http://www.febooti.com/downloads/ Installed as administrator, it then gives ALL users the ability to calculate HASH values from the Properties panel (i.e. right mouse) of any file viewable in Windows explorer shell GUI. If you'd like to compare for real, here are the HASH values for the last ISO build you posted as available at: http://download.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/box/3.5.6/LO-3.5.6_English-NA-DVD_all-platforms_multi-lang_plus-extras_v2.iso.mirrorlist LO-3.5.6_English-NA-DVD_all-platforms_multi-lang_plus-extras_v2.iso Powered by MirrorBrain Size: 3.8G (4044062720 bytes) Last modified: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 03:58:15 GMT (Unix time: 1345607895) SHA-256 Hash: 55d62394196ab920d99ec99480d515672d738a152c26c92177500cd3113c8fa7 SHA-1 Hash: 8560042169d28f30053f91aae5523fbac049234b MD5 Hash: 96560a0b6c117a07d32d33baa1e2ef30 BitTorrent Information Hash: 9ea3cc57031a78cb5af214a041637a5ff2f30648 Hope that is clear enough
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-accessibility] Adding Accessibility component to Bug Assistant
Hi :) In bug-reports there are several drop-downs. One has feature request and i think another has Easy hack? Would one of those be better than the other? Which of those was which option of the a, b, c etc? Regards from Tom :) From: Ti tengo d'occhio i...@titengodocchio.it To: libreoff...@bielefeldundbuss.de Cc: Roman Eisele p...@roman-eisele.de; Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com; libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org; accessibil...@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Friday, 31 August 2012, 10:35 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] [Libreoffice-qa] Adding Accessibility component to Bug Assistant Hi Rainer, well, I didn't know that there were developers focused on specific components; in this case adding an accessibility component won't be the best thing to do, in my opinion… At this point I think we could go for solution C or solution A; in case of solution A, would it be possible to view all issues with the pseudo-keyword accessibility? However I think that solution C could be very suitable; in drupal, for instance, to report accessibility issues there are two special tags: - Accessibility: it means that this is an accessibility issue (it could be a bug, a feature request, a task, etc etc) ; - needs accessibility review: this means that the issue or the patch to solve it needs to be tested by a blind user or an accessibility expert. Now we could choose to use only the accessibility keyword or maybe both accessibility and needs accessibility review, I don't know; but also using just the first keyword would be a great thing… Vincenzo. Il giorno 31/ago/2012, alle ore 06:36, Rainer Bielefeld libreoff...@bielefeldundbuss.de ha scritto: Ti tengo d'occhio schrieb: in my opinion it would be great to have a component for accessibility; it could let developers to better focus on accessibility bugs and, on the other hand, blind people to know that accessibility is important for this project and that submitting bug reports of this type is more than encouraged… Hi, the advantage of an Accessibility Component would be that it can easily be selected from a pulldown, no typos or other mistakes can happen.But a problem is that an Accessibility Component would not indicate what developer might be the one who can fix the problem. So it always would be replaced during the bug triaging and fixing process. An other possibility would be a Whiteboard entry, but that only can be done after a report in a second step, typos might happen, it is too modest. So I currently think about a Bug Submission Assistant enhancement. We can add a checkbox Accessibility affected, and the Assistant will add Accessibility a) as additional pseudo key word to the Bug Summary line. The advantage of this solution is that the key word would be very visible. or b) as additional pseudo key word to the whiteboard or will c) set Key word Accessibility to the Keyword pane (it should not be a problem to get this new key word from FDO). The advantae of this solution is that it also eases and unifies handling in Bugzilla itself, not only via BSA. And of course d) New Component Accessibility still can be discussed. My order of preference (descending): c - a - b - d Your opinion? When we have a solution here, we can start to mark and process accessibility bugs with increased priority. Best regards Rainer -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to accessibility+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/accessibility/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to accessibility+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/accessibility/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Uploading Edited Manual
Hi :) +1 Sorry. Now i have thought about it that final sentence of mine flags up a potential minefield. Klaus-jürgen and Jean's answer is wise. Apols and regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 14/6/12, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Uploading Edited Manual To: documentat...@global.libreoffice.org Date: Thursday, 14 June, 2012, 12:00 I disagree. The changed document should be checked by someone on the team (for example, me) before replacing anything on the wiki. --Jean On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 8:49 PM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) I think, in this case, that it might be better to just upload straight to the wiki http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications ODFAuthors is for proof-reading and all the rest of the process. This case sounds like it is probably ready to go straight to the wiki. Please let us know which chapter and when you have done it as the change might need to get pulled into the completed full book as well as the chapter you have edited. Regards from Tom :) --- On Thu, 14/6/12, klaus-jürgen weghorn ol o...@sophia-louise.de wrote: From: klaus-jürgen weghorn ol o...@sophia-louise.de Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Uploading Edited Manual To: Libreoffice-qa libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Cc: documentat...@global.libreoffice.org, jmadero@gmail.com Date: Thursday, 14 June, 2012, 7:01 Hi Joel, *, (ccing the documention-ml) Am 13.06.2012 20:33, schrieb Joel Madero: Hi All, Where do I upload an updated manual. I made an incredibly small change to address a bug report that someone had: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41600 I've done about a paragraph addition just to address the language issue that the user brought up. Can I send this somewhere? Thanks in advance. For questions about documentation it is better to write to documentation-ml (documentat...@global.libreoffice.org). There you will get (hopefully) the right answers and help. Changes in documentation should be first published in ODFAuthors. You should work on the existing document. If it is too difficult to do it for you, give a short signal. It should be easy to integrate your work. Here some links for more information: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Production#Workflow -- Grüße k-j -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
