Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.0.2 RC1 available
Hi Pedro, On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 05:28:07AM -0700, Pedro wrote: Hi Yifan Some comments/questions Yifan Jiang wrote 3. Select your envionment: Archs, Locale, Platforms What if my Locale doesn't exist? If I run LO with the English US UI but all my other settings are set to my Locale does that count as EN_US? It's a very good question, We should define the item clearly. The environment dimensions (arch, locale, platform...) are extremely flexible in Moztrap, we customized these items all by ourselves. The original idea I set Locale as an option is to record the testing operating system locale. Then everything else is supposed to left to libreoffice to decide automatically. Of course things come to be a bit jumbly, as you mentioned, testing environment options can be manually tuned, the additional language packages can be freely installed and uninstalled , etc. Even more, localization includes a lot of detailed meanings and coverage: * UI translation * Document translation (help doc) * Document Language bundles * Spell check dictionaries * Thesaurus * Grammar check * Hyphenation * East-Asian specific and complicated text support So it may make sense to keep the concept as simple as operating system locale. When a testing environment is selected as fr for example, I do *NOT* presume the above detailed coverages would be all related with French packages or settings. Alternatively these language specific testing would be reflected in *testcases* description and steps: * Ideally these language specific *testcases* should be tested in relevant environments. * Conversely those non-language specific *testcases* should be tested in only one environment. which I think are Moztrap's future roles to take care about how to map different cases to different locales. Finally as far as I can concern, everything manually set, inluding language settings, which is relevant to the results should go to comments field when marking the test results. I would like to keep the topic open, and get more people with l10n experience involved. :) @Petr, Sophie, all, any input here? Yifan Jiang wrote Finally, click the bright green button on the bottom right and start to hunt bugs! Actually you may use the latest 4.0.2 RC build (i.e from RC1 to RC2...RC3 etc.), for testing. Should the user follow the Test Order number? Not yet. The test cases have no restricted orders so far :) I think the numbering is a new feature where we may leverage afterwards when needed. Why is the Install test (which is first action you take) numbered 16? hehe, I'll have to hide it if really confusing. Is it considered low priority (Priority 2) that the user has a successful Install??? I am not sure I got the question. But the priority does matter. The high priority (P1) cases are supposed to run before low priority (P2) ones in any case, beacause test cases having high priority usually are designed to test fundamental and most important functionality, wrt: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Test_Cases_Organization#Priority FYI OpenID login fails with 500. That's an error. The server could not process your request. That's all we know. Thanks for trying. Which openid provider were you using? I did test the OpenID scenario when upgrading and ever worked for me with google, wordpress and yahoo ids. Unfortunately the server seems down at the moment so I couldn't do further testing for now. But I'll certainly take care of this :) Also, the Wiki screenshot is outdated. It doesn't show the OpenID option. I can make a new screenshot and upload it to the wiki, but without edits (you can do that later?) Great, I can do it. But I think if it doesn't take too much time, you are the better person to update the wiki since you found the problem. Thank you! Best wishes, Yifan -- Yifan Jiang Libreoffice / SUSE Contact: yifan - irc.freenode.net/libreoffice = http://www.libreoffice.org/ http://www.documentfoundation.org/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.0.2 RC1 available
Yifan Jiang píše v Pá 22. 03. 2013 v 14:56 +0800: Hi Pedro, On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 05:28:07AM -0700, Pedro wrote: Hi Yifan Some comments/questions Yifan Jiang wrote 3. Select your envionment: Archs, Locale, Platforms What if my Locale doesn't exist? If I run LO with the English US UI but all my other settings are set to my Locale does that count as EN_US? It's a very good question, We should define the item clearly. So it may make sense to keep the concept as simple as operating system locale. I would use the locale that is used in Tools/Options/Language Settings/Languages/Locale Setting. I think that it affects more things than UI Language or the other settings. In each case, I would leave the Moztrap (manual-test.libreoffice.org) configuration simple, so it is easy to start testing. IMHO, most of the tests are language independent. You should get the same results in any locale. Of course, if you find a bug, you should mention all the details if they look related. For example, shrinked text in dialog, wrong computation, problems with spell check, are bugs where the information about the used language might be important. Alternatively these language specific testing would be reflected in *testcases* description and steps: * Ideally these language specific *testcases* should be tested in relevant environments. * Conversely those non-language specific *testcases* should be tested in only one environment. Are these two types of test cases already somehow marked in Moztrap? Unfortunately, manual-test.libreoffice.org is not accessible right now. which I think are Moztrap's future roles to take care about how to map different cases to different locales. Finally as far as I can concern, everything manually set, inluding language settings, which is relevant to the results should go to comments field when marking the test results. It might be too long list :-) I think that it makes sense to mention extra information only there are problems or if you are not sure about the test results and some information looks important. Why is the Install test (which is first action you take) numbered 16? hehe, I'll have to hide it if really confusing. Well, the information might help to discuss particular test case. It is similar to bugzilla. We speak about bug X. We could speak also about test case XX. BTW: Is is possible to find a test case by this number? Is it considered low priority (Priority 2) that the user has a successful Install??? I am not sure I got the question. But the priority does matter. The high priority (P1) cases are supposed to run before low priority (P2) ones in any case, beacause test cases having high priority usually are designed to test fundamental and most important functionality, wrt: I think that Pedro wanted to say that installation test should be P1. You could not do any other tests without installation :-) In each case, thanks a lot for working on Moztrap. It will help us to be more confident about the state before each release. I think that there is still a long way but it is great that we are moving :-) Best Regards, Petr ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.0.2 RC1 available
Petr Mladek wrote I think that Pedro wanted to say that installation test should be P1. Indeed. But also meant that Installation should be the first item on the table. Currently if the user is completing the tests following the order they appear on the table, by the time s/he reaches number 16 it's a bit obvious that it was successful... On the other hand if installation fails then it makes sense that this is the first item since the user can not go any further... Best regards, Pedro -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Libreoffice-qa-ANN-LibreOffice-4-0-2-RC1-available-tp4044021p4045398.html Sent from the QA mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.0.2 RC1 available
Pedro píše v Pá 22. 03. 2013 v 07:05 -0700: Petr Mladek wrote I think that Pedro wanted to say that installation test should be P1. Indeed. But also meant that Installation should be the first item on the table. Currently if the user is completing the tests following the order they appear on the table, by the time s/he reaches number 16 it's a bit obvious that it was successful... I agree. On the other hand, I am not sure if we need such test at all. It might make sense if we want to check some special aspects of installation, for example, list of installed components, default settings, ... Otherwise, I think that we need not mention this test. Everybody has to do installation to be able to do other tests. Also I think that it does not make sense to check if the Writer starts. This fact is checked by any other Writer-related test :-) For example, one nice test could be for desktop integration: + desktop menu entries + MIME type association IMHO, this could not be done automatically and it covers many other trivial tests :-) Best Regards, Petr ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.0.2 RC1 available
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 02:43:02PM +0100, Thorsten Behrens wrote: A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test - or checkout our manual test database for starting right away - http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/runtests/ Dear all, To fire on the regression test on 4.0.2 RC immediately, the usage of Moztrap can't be more simple: 1. Login manual test URL as above 2. Select right run: Libreoffice - 4.0 - 4.0 RC Regression Test 3. Select your envionment: Archs, Locale, Platforms Finally, click the bright green button on the bottom right and start to hunt bugs! Actually you may use the latest 4.0.2 RC build (i.e from RC1 to RC2...RC3 etc.), for testing. Thanks for joining and we are looking forward to your contribution! PS. Further details of usage of Moztrap can be found: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Moztrap/Moztrap_User_Guide Best wishes, Yifan -- Yifan Jiang Libreoffice / SUSE Contact: yifan - irc.freenode.net/libreoffice = http://www.libreoffice.org/ http://www.documentfoundation.org/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.0.2 RC1 available
Hi Yifan Some comments/questions Yifan Jiang wrote 3. Select your envionment: Archs, Locale, Platforms What if my Locale doesn't exist? If I run LO with the English US UI but all my other settings are set to my Locale does that count as EN_US? Yifan Jiang wrote Finally, click the bright green button on the bottom right and start to hunt bugs! Actually you may use the latest 4.0.2 RC build (i.e from RC1 to RC2...RC3 etc.), for testing. Should the user follow the Test Order number? Why is the Install test (which is first action you take) numbered 16? Is it considered low priority (Priority 2) that the user has a successful Install??? Yifan Jiang wrote https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Moztrap/Moztrap_User_Guide FYI OpenID login fails with 500. That's an error. The server could not process your request. That's all we know. Also, the Wiki screenshot is outdated. It doesn't show the OpenID option. I can make a new screenshot and upload it to the wiki, but without edits (you can do that later?) Best regards, Pedro -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Libreoffice-qa-ANN-LibreOffice-4-0-2-RC1-available-tp4044021p4045199.html Sent from the QA mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.0.2 RC1 available
Dear Community, The Document Foundation is pleased to announce the first release candidate of our upcoming LibreOffice 4.0.2. This will be the second in a series of frequent updates to our feature-packed 4.0 branch. Please be aware that LibreOffice 4.0.2 RC1 is not ready for production use, you should continue to use LibreOffice 4.0.1 for that. The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA builds download page at http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/ Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla: https://bugs.freedesktop.org A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test - or checkout our manual test database for starting right away - http://manual-test.libreoffice.org/runtests/ As usual, this update is accompanied with a new version of the Impress Remote - if you would like to test, an updated Android package is available here: http://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/sdremote-1.0.5/playstore/ImpressRemote.apk (and note https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/Impress/RemoteHowTo) For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can e.g. contribute code: http://www.libreoffice.org/get-involved/developers/ translate LibreOffice to your language: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide or help with funding our operations: http://donate.libreoffice.org/ A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 4.0.2 RC1 is available from our wiki: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.0.2/RC1 Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have been possible without your help. Yours, The Document Foundation Board of Directors The Document Foundation, Zimmerstr. 69, 10117 Berlin, Germany Rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
