Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [documentliberation-discuss] ODF compatibility tests
On 02/05/14 15:01, Charles-H. Schulz wrote: Jay, Replying in more details: there are a few ODF validators out there but they are neither autoritative nor maintained. And ODF 1,2 has evolved after they were released: http://plugfest.opendocsociety.org/doku.php?id=validators:overview at least the ODF Toolkit validator is up-to-date with the ODF 1.2 schema; for validating documents exported from LO (or actually OOo versions 3.0 i guess) with default setting of Tools-Options-Load/Save-General-ODF format version it's best to check for extended conformance. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [documentliberation-discuss] ODF compatibility tests
Hello Jay, I do not believe that there's a single tool or test suite ensuring that an ODF implementations display ODF correctly. We did/do have ODF PLugfests that rely on a set of rather empirical data (aka: get your computer and let's exchange ODF documents edited by several ODF implementations) and they tend to help. See here: http://plugfest.opendocsociety.org/doku.php However I do not believe what you're looking for does exist. Best, Charles. Le 2014-05-02 14:21, Jay Philips a écrit : Hi All, I was curious what compatibility tests are being run to ensure that LibO displays ODF accurately. I had asked a similar question a few days back on the LibO QA mailing list but never got a response. Is there an archive of standard compliant odf 1.0/1.1 and 1.2 files that is available? Alternatively, is there an ODF test to validate if a ODF file outputted by an ODF compatible software complies to the ODF standard and can output the file as a pdf to show how it should be rendered, somewhat similar to the Acid test for CSS. As part of my extensive testing of .docx files in LibO, i'm currently testing ODF outputted by LibO to see how well its imported into Word 2010 and 2013, as well as testing ODF outputted by Word 2010 and 2013 to see how well its imported into LibO. It would be nice to have a ODF software that i could use its output as a reference to compare these results against, as i've found ODF outputted by word 2010 that doesnt open correctly in LibO but did in Calligra Words and i've also found ODF files on libreoffice.org that displayed differences in LibO 4.1 and 4.2. Currently if a .doc, .docx or .rtf loads different between LibO and ms word, i report these bugs, but if there are load differences for .odt files its difficult to know if its a LibO or ms word problem. -- Jay Philips ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [documentliberation-discuss] ODF compatibility tests
Jay, Replying in more details: there are a few ODF validators out there but they are neither autoritative nor maintained. And ODF 1,2 has evolved after they were released: http://plugfest.opendocsociety.org/doku.php?id=validators:overview Cheers, Charles. Le 2014-05-02 14:56, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit : Hello Jay, I do not believe that there's a single tool or test suite ensuring that an ODF implementations display ODF correctly. We did/do have ODF PLugfests that rely on a set of rather empirical data (aka: get your computer and let's exchange ODF documents edited by several ODF implementations) and they tend to help. See here: http://plugfest.opendocsociety.org/doku.php However I do not believe what you're looking for does exist. Best, Charles. Le 2014-05-02 14:21, Jay Philips a écrit : Hi All, I was curious what compatibility tests are being run to ensure that LibO displays ODF accurately. I had asked a similar question a few days back on the LibO QA mailing list but never got a response. Is there an archive of standard compliant odf 1.0/1.1 and 1.2 files that is available? Alternatively, is there an ODF test to validate if a ODF file outputted by an ODF compatible software complies to the ODF standard and can output the file as a pdf to show how it should be rendered, somewhat similar to the Acid test for CSS. As part of my extensive testing of .docx files in LibO, i'm currently testing ODF outputted by LibO to see how well its imported into Word 2010 and 2013, as well as testing ODF outputted by Word 2010 and 2013 to see how well its imported into LibO. It would be nice to have a ODF software that i could use its output as a reference to compare these results against, as i've found ODF outputted by word 2010 that doesnt open correctly in LibO but did in Calligra Words and i've also found ODF files on libreoffice.org that displayed differences in LibO 4.1 and 4.2. Currently if a .doc, .docx or .rtf loads different between LibO and ms word, i report these bugs, but if there are load differences for .odt files its difficult to know if its a LibO or ms word problem. -- Jay Philips ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [documentliberation-discuss] ODF compatibility tests
Hey, On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Jay, Replying in more details: there are a few ODF validators out there but they are neither autoritative nor maintained. And ODF 1,2 has evolved after they were released: http://plugfest.opendocsociety.org/doku.php?id=validators:overview Cheers, Charles. Just to follow-up on this. Inside Libreoffice's automated tests we use officeotron for OOXMl validation and odfvalidator for ODF validation. There are not many automated tests that check the layout (limited to Impress and charts) but quite a few that make sure that we don't loose content during import or export. Normally we add them after fixing a bug to prevent the same error in the future. Additionally we have a script that imports all bugzilla documents and exports them to different formats and runs a validation on the exported files to find export problems. Except for these tests we have currently no tests that check either validation or our filters. As some people already pointed out there is neither a official set of test documents nor is the layout specified in either ODF or OOXML. Regards, Markus ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
