Time Start: 1405 UTC
Present: Peter, Florian, Joel, Joren, Thorsten
*Completed Action Items*
***Wiki for Hard Hacks – on hold until after release of 4.0 (Joel)
*Wiki page for triage contest (Joel)
*Bibisect Torrent/Mirror – No longer needed with bibisect repository
*Wiki for FDO policies/rules (Joel)
*Get permissions for Joel (Bjoern Tollef)
*Pending Action Items*
*Bugs which are not touched for long period of time (Florian)
+UNCONFIRMED
-Not users fault, we will not automate anything and will not ask the
user for more work on their part.
+NEEDINFO
- Discussion lead to agreement that automating comment to remind users
followed by automatic closer of bug after some period of time appropriate
-Follow-up email lead to moving this conversation to QA mailing
list to get broader consensus..
*Localized BSA (Rob)
+Rob has been in contact with Florian trying to work out details
*Goals
+Punt until after Release of 4.0
*Hard Hacks (Alll)
+Message on wiki stating that these are on hold until after release of 4.0
*Funding WishList (Everyone)
*Shipping Costs
+Marc's email thread on member mailing list possible
- Details need ironed out but having TDF members sign up to be
“carriers” in their region. They can be responsible for buying “locally”
and then shipping to prize winners, etc...
*Triage Contest (Everyone)
+Wiki page up, need to start filling it out
- https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Bug_Triage_Contest
+Date
-*AGREED: *2 Days after release of 4.1 RC1
-*AGREED: *Length will be 14 days
+*ACTION: *Joel will link page to FDO rules (see below)
*Bibisect
+No longer need mirrors or torrents because of new bibisect repository
*Wiki Updates (Joel Joren)
+QA https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA and QA-Team
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA-Team, not much progress yet
+*Action: *Joren will add a welcome message to QA wiki
+*Action: *Joel will email everyone on QA-Team list and see if they want
to stay on that list
*FDO
+Mime Type (Bjoern Joel)
-Not changed yet to Auto, no word from Tollef
-*Action: *Joel will talk to Bjoern about this
+Version Message
-Bjoern in contact with Tollef about this
+Twitter (Bjoern)
- No Update
+Permissions (Joel)
-Joel now has permissions to permanently or temporarily ban users
-New wiki describes rules and procedures
*https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/FreeDesktop_Rules_Procedures
-Hopefully this is never needed
+Metrics
-None
+NEW vs. REOPENED
-Reopened discussion as previously agreed upon structure wasn't working
-*ACTION: *Joel will talk with Bjoern about if we can ask Tollef to make
it so we can set a bug back to UNCONFIRMED even after it's set to WFM
-*AGREED: *If above can be done, we'll ask users to reopen bugs as
UNCONFIRMED if WFM status not correct so that other QA members can
easily look into the bug as well. NEW will mean confirmed, REOPENED will
only be done if the bug was marked as FIXED is assigned a developer
but the user says it's not fixed.
-*AGREED: *If above is not possible, we will treat REOPENED the same as
UNCONFIRMED unless it is assigned a developer. If the bug is not
assigned and is REOPENED, QA will mark as NEW if we can confirm the
behavior.
*New Items*
*FDO
+Assigning Bugs
-*AGREED: *At this time QA team “pushing” bugs to developers isn't
working, we will now only do “pull” philosophy (developers choose their
own bugs and assign themselves
-*AGREED: *The 300 bugs that are assigned but haven't been touched in
over 6 months is a problem as developers who could fix bugs will not
touch bugs that are assigned to someone else. These bugs should be
unassigned developers should be placed in CC list.
*Assigned (status NEW or Assigned), No Movement
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?list_id=209831emailtype1=notequalschfieldto=2012-07-17query_format=advancedemailassigned_to1=1bug_status=NEWbug_status=ASSIGNEDemail1=libreoffice-bugs%40lists.freedesktop.orgproduct=LibreOffice6+
Months
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?list_id=209831emailtype1=notequalschfieldto=2012-07-17query_format=advancedemailassigned_to1=1bug_status=NEWbug_status=ASSIGNEDemail1=libreoffice-bugs%40lists.freedesktop.orgproduct=LibreOffice
-*ACTION: *Joel will e-mail developer mailing list with decision, inform
developers that we will be automating an action to unassign them from
untouched bugs of over 6 months UNLESS they speak up and say that this
is a bad plan.
+FDO #59717 (Most Wanted Enhancement or some such list)
-No discussion, will discuss at next meeting
+Default Assignee
-Joel doesn't like that there is a default assignee email, could be
confusing for new developers – a friend who has started developing for
LibreOffice recently pointed this
-*AGREED: *No real solution for this unfortunately, e-mail is linked to
IRC bots and other things so removing is not possible. Changing name to
UNASSIGNED@... would make a mess of FDO
-Solutions welcome here but no action to be taken
+QA Field
-Joel requested that QA
